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Where are the words, "we chose JESUS" in those scriptures?

You know as well as I do. Asking questions that can't be answered doesn't put one at the top of the knowledge list.

You and I went around this issue a couple of times. You refused to acknowledge anything from the Word that contradicted your beliefs. Your entire belief system hangs on a couple of verses. That's weak.

You come here asking us to reveal the answers to you, when you should be taking your petitions to God.

All you have to do is submit to the Lord and study the Word to find the answers you're looking for.

You'd be amazed at what a genuine fear of the Lord will do for you.

Here is half of what you call "a couple of verses". Now give me one that answers the question.

Some quotes from JESUS;

Matthew 11:27(b)

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Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that [were] on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Jos 24:22 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye [are] witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve him. And they said, [We are] witnesses.

Jos 24:23 Now therefore put away, [said he], the strange gods which [are] among you, and incline your heart unto the LORD God of Israel.

Jos 24:24 And the people said unto Joshua, The LORD our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey.

It isw a reasonable answer in the light of the question. But the question was about Christians choosing GOD as individuals, not a nation of people (Who, by the way, were clearly chosen first by GOD)


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One example comes to mind. When Christ healed the blind man and that man was cast out by the Pharisees. "Jesus heard that that they cast him out; and when he found him, he said unto him, Dost though believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him [choice to choose]? And Jesus said unto him. Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And he said, Lord I believe. And he worshipped him." (John 9:35-37)

- Oak

PS I know this may not be doctrine in terms of what you're searching for.... But, I think, it is worth your consideration.

Oak man, wassup.

Thanks for your input.

The reason I did not ask for a scripture that states someone believed is that there are many scriptures that say someone believed. We really do not choose what we believe. Either we believe it or we do not. We may choose to ignor what we believe, but that does not change the fact that we believe it.

Throughout the scriptures there are places where it is stated that when people heard the word, they believed. That ability to comprehend and believe is what GOD puts in us in order that we might be saved.

Even when Peter proclaimed what he believed, JESUS explained to him that he did not understand this as a result of his flesh and blood (his mind) but that it was revealed to him by GOD.


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Where are the words, "we chose JESUS" in those scriptures?

You know as well as I do. Asking questions that can't be answered doesn't put one at the top of the knowledge list.

You and I went around this issue a couple of times. You refused to acknowledge anything from the Word that contradicted your beliefs. Your entire belief system hangs on a couple of verses. That's weak.

You come here asking us to reveal the answers to you, when you should be taking your petitions to God.

All you have to do is submit to the Lord and study the Word to find the answers you're looking for.

You'd be amazed at what a genuine fear of the Lord will do for you.

You are correct in your statement, it is a question there is no answer for. In fact, there are no scriptures that contradict these very clear teachings of the Bible.

As you may recall, others tried to explain to you how you have misinterpretted the scriptures and you left the conversation rather than listen to them, either.

So, it is a simple question.

If there are dozens of scriptures that state GOD chooses and there are no scriptures (outide of doubtful things) that state we choose, why would someone reject the clear statements for an ambiguous statement that needs a special interpretation to contradict the clear statement that is straight forward? (which I have listed a few)

Now, if you can not find scriptures that say what I have asked, than why make a post at all?

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As you may recall, others tried to explain to you how you have misinterpretted the scriptures and you left the conversation rather than listen to them, either.

Matthew 15

12 Then His disciples came and said to Him,

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God Did It

1) Because It Is God Who Started It And Finished It

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;

who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2

1) Because It Is God Who First Loved Us

But God commendeth his love toward us,

in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

1) Because It Is God Who Calls Us

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock:

if any man hear my voice, and open the door,

I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20

2) Man Is Able To Choose

And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve;

whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites,

in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house,

we will serve the LORD. Joshua 24:15

Or Not

>>>>>()<<<<<

Jesus Saves

It Is God Who Saves And God Who Pursues

The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love:

therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jeremiah 31:3

And That Without God's Calling I Think We Sinners

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked:

who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9

Would Never Turn To Jesus And Believe

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life. John 3:16

And Be Saved

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

>>>>>()<<<<<

God's Work

See It's God's Work

For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13

But Sadly Most Will Just Nibble

O taste and see that the LORD is good:

blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalms 34:8

But Some Will Joyfully Eat And Will Abide In Him

Thy words were found, and I did eat them;

and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

>>>>>()<<<<<

All Glory To God

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:

for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:11


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I say again.

Proverbs 1

7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 9

10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Proverbs 4

7 Wisdom is the principal thing; Therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding.

Luke 11

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As you may recall, others tried to explain to you how you have misinterpretted the scriptures and you left the conversation rather than listen to them, either.

Matthew 15

12 Then His disciples came and said to Him,

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With all of the scriptures that state that GOD chose us, I was wondering;

Can someone find a statement that says we chose HIM.

Romans 8:33 in the NIV says something like this, "who can bring a charge against those whom GOD has chosen" Can someone find me a scripture that states, "who can bring a charge against those who have chosen GOD"?

Or maybe a scripture that says, "Now that you have chosen JESUS..."

It just seems to me that the only scriptures I can find say GOD chose, GOD elected, GOD called.

THere are dozens of scriptures that use the word "Chose, elected, called as something GOD has done. Could somebody find 2 scriptures that say we chose HIM in the same way that so many scriptures state HE chose us.

Since I am of the, "HE chose us" camp, and it seems to be the nature of Christians to ignor scriptures that do not teach what we want to believe, I feel I may have overlooked scriptures that say the opposit and i would really like to know if they are there.

This would go a long way to understanding why others reject the notion of GOD doing the choosing.

HIS Peace and Love to you all this Holiday season.

This is based on a faulty premise as none of us claim to have "chosen" Jesus. Man left to his own vices, without the preaching of the gospel and the inner convinction of the Holy Spirit will not choose Jesus at all. I think that goes without saying.

What people like myself are saying is that we chose to say yes to the gospel. We accepted the message and asked Jesus to come to live within our hearts. That is not "choosing" Jesus. It is obedience to the call of the gospel message.

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It is obedience to the call of the gospel message

Amen!

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