Pick a Passage?

[WayneB]

Excellent thread Suzanne.

I believe the problem is that although many believe in Jesus Christ, they refuse to place HIM on the throne of their life. We still want control even though the Holy Spirit who dwells within us is greater than the world!

When the Word says to "Repent & Believe", I understand it to mean turn away from the world and Follow Christ ... step out of the dark and into HIS Light. I still believe that repentance from sinful behavior is impossible without the indwelt Holy Spirit. I still believe that true repentance is part of our sanctification, the process of being made Holy or set apart for HIS purpose, not ours.

I love the song, "I surrender ALL" ....

[Guest Called]

What time is it for us? Time for dancing in this nation? Or mourning and repentance?

Repentance, then dancing! Woo Hoo!

[Shelby]

I agree with most of you too. I also think it is important not to pick and choose scriptures to support our stances but use all scriptures in context. I agree with AKA Mary, but I would go so far as to read the entire chapter and the one before and after it. It also helps to study about the author and the setting in which it was written. It can give great insight.

REPENT then PARTY!

[tsth]

I was told once by someone to always read the verse before and after to get a better picture. This advice has proved very useful.

While we are on the topic of picking a verse, what about those who sorta hold the bible up let it fall open, randomnly run their finger down a page, and 'BANG' there sits the verse of the day.

I've heard the joke regarding this....then he died etc, but people really do this

Here's the advice I once heard on the same matter:

Read the Scriptures with 20/20 vision. 20 verses before and 20 behind. That way you'll be sure to get the whole context. And just like the story of Jeremiah and Hananiah, there was much to be gleaned in that particular story, but if you only read the part of Hananiah, you'll get the wrong picture. You've got to read the WHOLE story to understand exactly what is being told. There is a vast difference in the meaning if you don't read the WHOLE STORY.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest idied2]

:il: This is the scriptures that I read and Cry out for the deluded Christains today. Because they don't think it will come anywhere near them. I f they could just listen to the words being spoke in this scripture. They would realize It is written about those who claime to be HIS people at the end.

Jeremiah 25:

30 "Therefore prophesy against them all these words, and say to them: 'The Lord will roar from on high, And utter His voice from His holy habitation; He will roar mightily against His fold. He will give a shout, as those who tread the grapes, Against all the inhabitants of the earth.

31 A noise will come to the ends of the earth-- For the Lord has a controversy with the nations; He will plead His case with all flesh. He will give those who are wicked to the sword,' says the Lord."

32 Thus says the Lord of hosts: "Behold, disaster shall go forth From nation to nation, And a great whirlwind shall be raised up From the farthest parts of the earth.

33 And at that day the slain of the Lord shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall become refuse on the ground.

34 "Wail, shepherds, and cry! Roll about in the ashes, You leaders of the flock! For the days of your slaughter and your dispersions are fulfilled; You shall fall like a precious vessel. 35 And the shepherds will have no way to flee, Nor the leaders of the flock to escape.

36 A voice of the cry of the shepherds, And a wailing of the leaders to the flock will be heard. For the Lord has plundered their pasture,

37 And the peaceful dwellings are cut down Because of the fierce anger of the Lord.

38 He has left His lair like the lion; For their land is desolate Because of the fierceness of the Oppressor, And because of His fierce anger."

In CHRIST JESUS :hug:

[ted]

Outstanding thread!

I rarely include Scrpture in my posts due to a few reasons.

One is that i'm human and am more likely than not subject to confusing a subject with the wrong context of a passage.

Another is that, for some reason, I am very good at learning and comprehension, but literally stupid when it comes to teaching! For me, it's hard to convey what I know, but... oh well.

Thanks to you for addressing this all important issue.

t.

[tsth]

Outstanding thread!

I rarely include Scrpture in my posts due to a few reasons.

One is that i'm human and am more likely than not subject to confusing a subject with the wrong context of a passage.

Another is that, for some reason, I am very good at learning and comprehension, but literally stupid when it comes to teaching! For me, it's hard to convey what I know, but... oh well.

Thanks to you for addressing this all important issue.

t.

Thank you ted.

Just about the time I think I'm leaving WB's the Lord will compel a certain post that apparently provokes something for the soul.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[ted]

Thank you ted.

Just about the time I think I'm leaving WB's the Lord will compel a certain post that apparently provokes something for the soul.

Leaving??

Oh no. You stay put.

I don't think you truly realize just how much you mean to us here at WB. Your insight is something that is needed and helps more than you know.

I get silly at times and forget to thank those that stay the course without fail. It is to you and those like you that I can find calm in the storms.

t.

(even if you ARE red!)

[WayneB]

Outstanding thread!

I rarely include Scrpture in my posts due to a few reasons.

One is that i'm human and am more likely than not subject to confusing a subject with the wrong context of a passage.

Another is that, for some reason, I am very good at learning and comprehension, but literally stupid when it comes to teaching! For me, it's hard to convey what I know, but... oh well.

Thanks to you for addressing this all important issue.

t.

Bless you Ted. I agree with you regarding Suzzanne. She always has started thought-provoking and edifying threads. I believe they are Holy Spirit led and not Suzzanne led, which is why they are so sound in doctrine and loving in nature.

May I share with you my thoughts?

I refer to Scripture OFTEN and use it in most every post and discussion I have with my brethren. Yes, sometimes I may misuse a passage but I expect my brethren to correct me gently. Generally speaking, though, when I rely on the Holy Spirit for ALL understanding [John 14], I usually see the passage in the context it was meant. We cannot be afraid of using Scripture in our discussions because it is our source of authority as the Holy Spirit gives understanding. Yes, we are only human and sometimes get it wrong but that is why we need to be open to discussion... as long we use His Word as our basis AND we do so in LOVE. [1 Cor 13]

I like Suzzanne's 20/20 rule. I also add that the more we surrender to Him, the better we will understand HIS Word as the Holy Spirit gives understanding.

Bless you,

Wayne

[Shelby]

I myself have been considering leaving lately. It seems that I am constantly defending myself. But I am still praying about it. My best Friend Katie (Keslc) is on sabaticol from the boards for a while for similar reasons. I think we get really wrapped up in some of the issues and remarks some people make.

I too rarely use scripture, but mostly because I have 2 pet peeves on here, hugely enormous cut and pastes, and scripture picking, people choose ones that will support their statements and I don't do it. I go by what I learn after studying the scriptures and try to put it in my own words.

God bless us all.