I have a question.

[Guest HIS girl]

I'm sorry about your mother Massorite. While there is life, there is hope - people have been saved whilst on their deathbeds.

If only your mother would forgive - and hand over her bitterness/hatred to God. Love covers a multitude of sins...

[Guest ReNeWeDSouL]

God isn't the one who sends someone to hell...

it's the persons doing,and his choice...

God even tried to save each one of us, by sending his only Son...

but it's really up to us...

[Guest ReNeWeDSouL]

i believe prayer is the most powerful tool in every situation....

we just have to pray for God to soften the heart of our unsaved loved ones...

[larryt]

Men chooses on their own accord to be born "again".

I can say from my own experience that I was not born again of my own accord - it was what God did in my life that utterly convinced me of His reality.

First he softened me, then convinced me.... then I accepted.

I'll go for that.

The Holy Spirit presents you with the Truth - it's up to you whether you accept that invitation to eternal life with Jesus/God. Just like it's up to you to continue on in sin.

Hi His girl,

We are presented with the truth by the preaching of the Word. The Holy Spirit uses the preached word to convict us of our sin and convince us of the need of a Saviour. This is where God chooses who the Holy Spirit draws and who He doesn't. Jesus said:

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Did you see that first statement? This implies that those that do not come were not given to Jesus. Those that come to Jesus are the ones that God chose and are revealed by the fact that they chose.

All men are responsible to believe the Gospel. We are without excuse. But unless God gives us a new heart first our heart won't turn to Him. Without this change man will not turn from sin.

I am not trying to resay what you said but explain the differences in what I believe and what you said. There are some subtle differences.

LT

[larryt]

God isn't the one who sends someone to hell...

it's the persons doing,and his choice...

God even tried to save each one of us, by sending his only Son...

but it's really up to us...

Hi Renewed,

Here is a question to ponder. If God is all powerful, and is trying to save each one of us, and always does things in the best, most powerful way; Could we say that God fails when a man does not get saved when God tries to save him?

Think about it first before answering. And welcome to WB.

LT

[Guest man]

God isn't the one who sends someone to hell...

it's the persons doing,and his choice...

God even tried to save each one of us, by sending his only Son...

but it's really up to us...

Hi Renewed,

Here is a question to ponder. If God is all powerful, and is trying to save each one of us, and always does things in the best, most powerful way; Could we say that God fails when a man does not get saved when God tries to save him?

If you're drowning and I throw you a lifeline and you refuse to take it and end up dying, who's at fault for your death?

ReNeWeDSouL never used this phrase, "always does things in the best, most powerful way". Those are your words.

What she stated is true.

[larryt]

God isn't the one who sends someone to hell...

it's the persons doing,and his choice...

God even tried to save each one of us, by sending his only Son...

but it's really up to us...

Hi Renewed,

Here is a question to ponder. If God is all powerful, and is trying to save each one of us, and always does things in the best, most powerful way; Could we say that God fails when a man does not get saved when God tries to save him?

If you're drowning and I throw you a lifeline and you refuse to take it and end up dying, who's at fault for your death?

ReNeWeDSouL never used this phrase, "always does things in the best, most powerful way". Those are your words.

What she stated is true.

I never said he used that phrase. I used the phrase. And when God does anything He does it completely. He loves completely and never loves one more than another.

And if you throw that lifeline to someone that is unconscious in the water how can you condemn that person for not grabbing hold. The analogy holds because man is DEAD in sin. A dead man cannot raise himself up. He cannot even ask to be raised. Lazarus had no say in being raised from the dead. It was all of Jesus Christ. It is your logic that does not add up.

LT

[Guest man]

It is your logic that does not add up.

It doesn't add up because you added to what was said.

When you add and take away from what is said, you change the message.

[larryt]

It is your logic that does not add up.

It doesn't add up because you added to what was said.

When you add and take away from what is said, you change the message.

So why are you involved at all? Are you trying to protect him from something? I asked a question of Rnewedsoul based on what he said. It was only a question and somehow you felt you need to answer for him. So since you answered for him you can answer my question to you.

And if you throw that lifeline to someone that is unconscious in the water how can you condemn that person for not grabbing hold?

Your assumption and analogy do not account for the inability of the man in the water to help himself. So how do you answer??????

LT

[Guest man]

And if you throw that lifeline to someone that is unconscious in the water how can you condemn that person for not grabbing hold?

You changed the scenario. You added to what was said, thus changing the message.

Your assumption and analogy do not account for the inability of the man in the water to help himself. So how do you answer??????

The death of Christ on the Cross is an open invitation to anyone who wants to accept it.

No one is held back. Everyone has the ability to grab hold of that Lifeline.

No one, "is unconscious in the water".