Bible_Gazer

well it must be somewhat like the mother, that it came from the mother church, could it be protestant ? The mother church wanted all her children(daughters) to come back home to become one. Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

That would not jibe with this: 12:13. And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. Did the Devil not fight against the church ? Does he still do it today ? Does he not have ministers of righteousness ? 2Cor. 11:12-15 Sure, it jibes.

So Satan is in this literal third heaven realm above and gonna get kicked out or barred. The pregnant woman is in the same heaven above with Satan also ????? If the woman is Israel then, this Heaven must be here on earth where the war is fought. In Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. John 12:31 now shall the prince of this world be cast out. This was the Jewish heaven leading into the church here on earth, Jesus began a work to destroy the works of the Devil by his forming his church with power. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. So Jesus sent out his workers(ministering angels) and they cast out devils, heal the sick...................This war has begun. Matthew 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Luke 9:1 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 14 And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered. Rev.2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Actually I think the woman is the the church not the nation of Israel. Also parts of Rev.12 is history.

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. history

never ever seen it yet how the last week could be broken from the 69 weeks and not be connected The passage is about the Messiah coming and saving the people from their sins. How was it confirmed that it worked ? I have heard it was 3 1/2 years after Jesus resurrection when Stephen was looking up to heaven and saw Jesus beside his Father before they stoned him. I believe that Stephen made it to heaven that day and it confirmed what Jesus came to do. 70th week came to a close.

So everyone so far has no scriptures about the future existing but assuming God can do anything that we can imagine him to do. Hebrews 6:18 God cannot lie I know that God has his plans for the future and that it will exist someday. But to say that we are of the past is kinda strange to be alive as we are now. I think we are on the same time that God is on up to the minutes.

Some believe that God can go to the future . This thought is connected to those who believe in predestination. I think God has a plan for the future and that he can tell about events that will transpire into something. I don't see it that the future actually exist sometime ahead of us, but it exist as of now. What do you think ?

This holy city coming down is the bride = saints redeemed from the earth Not a natural block building or a piece of strip of land mass. But a group of people called a city. Great City Babylon is a group of people that is a man made system 666 consist of many things in it.

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Is the holy city a land mass coming down out of heaven ?

I saw it last nite , it was a great harvest moon color.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5 4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

If the chicken egg came first..........who sat on it ?

Acts 10:44-48 KJV 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Well this is one sure evident to know if you have the Holy Ghost.

Another thought : The Red Dragon here has the 7 heads with the crowns on them. So one of the ruling Kingdom is active here that the Devil is using to war, but not the ten horns, its come later in Rev.13 when the ten horns has crowns on them. So if the woman time frame is in the time of Christ and the Apostles then the ruling element(beast) was Rome(the sixth head of the beast) This is what the Devil used against God's people.

Another stir up your thoughts: The wilderness where the woman fled to, What is it ? or what it consist of. Rev. 17:3 The Harlot is seen also in the Wilderness, this is about where she came from. The beast came from the bottomless pit. I don't think its a literal vast country where nobody lives, do you ?

The heavens could simply mean "in the stars" or space - John is watching scenes playing out before him with space as his backdrop. So is all of this in Heaven above or Israel on earth, remember they are all working in the same place. I know some believe the war in heaven is above, if so the pregnant woman was there to.

Just another thought, Where is this heavenly place that John is referring to ? The Devil is there The woman is there pregnant Michael is there War in heaven is there

Really, I thought I would just make that up to stir some interest .

So was Herod the Great "the Devil Dragon" that came against Mary ? He tried to kill the new King.

God's seven vials will be a tribulation to those who won't live right and that is a judgement on them and most likely eternal.

Revelation 2:26-27 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Saints who overcome and make it in the Bride will rule with a rod of Iron . The man child represent the saints. Just like the Bride represent the church saints. Is there just one bride ? The last verse in chapter 12 who is the remnant of her seed ? Jesus's brother ? Chapter 12 is two parts = one part is history and other part is now and future. The Early rain and latter rain saints James 5:7

God still rules in the kingdom of men. He sets up and tears down. He must has a purpose for the Middle east and Europe. What ever the Devils does God allows it and can change it anytime he wants to. The Devil is weak when it come to God. Gods plans always overrides the Devils plans. God can use the Devils children for whatever is in his plans. Its just interesting how God is moving things around or letting it happen. What ever will transpire its the will of God.

I think the 1,335 days is over and its How Hanukkah came about. Read the history of it. The temple was defiled by an evil man.

We have a weapon that we are suppose to carry . = a sword (Eph.6) To stand against the devil. Humans vs Spirit devils on the battle ground. The winner is ?

If we use Rev.12 Revelation 12:1-2 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Which heaven is this ? Its the same place where Satan is working. How many heavens are there in Rev.12 talking about or are they the same ? I don't think there will pregnant women in heaven where God is, do you ?