OakWood

Correct. There are no multiple comings of Christ. Only one. Jesus does not come back to rescue Christians from the Tribulation. Christians endure and suffer the Tribulation. They are not exempt from it - there are no special favours! Christians are only rescued after the Tribulation when the antiChrist is finally defeated and when God pours out his wrath on the wicked. When evil pours out wrath (such as during the Tribulation) everybody who happens to be there can be subject to it. The Tribulation is an act of cruelty carried out by the antiChrist. During this period the righteous are persecuted and the wicked are not. Never before in history has God carried out any rescue mission to stop the righteous from persecution. There may be individual cases where certain persons were protected, but collectively the righteous endured tribulation and either they survived it or they didn't. The Great Tribulation will be no exception. Nobody is going to be raptured to safety before it starts. Only when the Tribulation ends will God rapture the righteous because he does not want to the righteous to suffer his vengeance when he pours it out upon the Earth. Pre-Tribbers are deluded and they are ignorant of scripture! They believe themselves to be the first and only righteous people in history to be whisked to safety before things get really bad. Noah was rescued from the Flood because the Flood was an act of retribution by God and God does not punish the righteous. Lot was warned of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah because God does not punish the righteous and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was a righteous act of vengeance carried out by God. The Tribulation is NOT an act of God - it is an act of evil where righteous man are persecuted and some even beheaded because they refuse to take the mark. Because it is not an act of God,the righteous will not be lifted to safety by God. The wrath that comes at the END of the Tribulation is god's revenge on the wicked for what they did during the Tribulation and because of their refusal to repent. Because it is God's revenge, and because God does not punish the righteous but only punishes the wicked, the righteous will escape God's wrath. To be put it simply: GREAT TRIBULATION - Christians endure it and suffer. POST-TRIBULATION WRATH OF GOD - Christians are rescued (raptured). It's really simple to understand - it's not rocket science, but no matter how many times you explain this to the pre-Trib crowd, they can never seem to understand the difference between acts of God and acts of evil. They are arrogant and full of pride and sincerely believe that they deserve to escape the wrath of evil that will occur, despite no other Christians in history being given this privilege before them. They are completely deluded and the PreTrib theory is a LIE.................!

Russia is undergoing a Christian revival while most of Christendom is in decline. Putin is encouraging growth of Orthodox church membership, is doing something about Muslim terrorism in his country and has clamped down on homosexual propaganda. Yet the World portrays Putin as the enemy. Non-Christians portray him as the enemy because they prefer darkness over light, and Christians portray Putin as the enemy because of a misunderstanding over the meaning of the word 'Rosh' in Ezekiel 38-39. At the moment, Russia is a big threat to formation of the NWO.

Not only is pok'emon evil, it also encourages bad grammar and spelling among kids. Anyone with basic knowledge can tell you that the accent is in the wrong place. It should be pronounced po-KAY-mon and not POKA-mon.

Excellent, bold speech.

That may as be, but if it can be forced to accept gay dating then so can other genuine Christian sites.

Sinners are accepted by the Church but not those wilfully seeking out sin. Would you say that thieves are to be accepted by the Church even if they are wilfully using the Church as a method of stealing? Homosexuals who are using a dating site to wilfully find partners to have homosexual sex with are deliberately and intentionally using that dating site to commit a sin. This should NOT be tolerated on a Christian website. I'm really getting tired of people claiming that 'God loves everybody' in order to justify iniquity. The Bible warns us of the consequence of such behaviour.

But will she get in power? That is the question. If people vote sensibly she won't.

Globalisation is the hallmark of Satan in this fallen World that we live in.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2016/06/30/christianmingle-com-opens-doors-to-gay-singles-under-settlement/ The owner of online dating site ChristianMingle.com has agreed to let gay and lesbian users search for same-sex matches under a judge-approved settlement of discrimination claims. Two gay men filed class-actions claims against Spark Network inc. in California courts in 2013 alleging that Christianmingle.com and several other sites in the company’s portfolio of niche dating services excluded users looking to meet singles of the same sex. ChristianMingle, billed as the largest online community for Christian singles, required new users to specify whether they’re a man seeking a woman or a woman seeking a man. The lead plaintiffs, two gay men who tried using it, claimed that the limited options violated California’s anti-discrimination law. Known as the Unruh civil rights act the state law requires “business establishments” to offer “full and equal accommodations” to people regardless of their sexual orientation. Under the agreement, the gateway homepages now ask just whether a user is a “man” or a “woman.” Spark Networks agreed that within two years, it would adjust other searching and profile features to give gay and lesbian singles a more tailored experience.

Perhaps the Palestinians, the Saudis, the Sudanese, and the Iranians should stop building settlements in their own countries. Perhaps ISIS should leave Christian settlements alone and let them live in peace. Just a thought.

ISIS are the poster boys for the real Islam.

I would actually argue that Islam is the brand and not ISIS, but people are still afraid to admit that Islam is not a religion of peace, so they are now claiming that all Muslim terrorists are part of the 'ISIS brand'. ISIS is very much a group and are led by one leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. However they are not the only terrorist 'group'. There are other groups such as al-Qaeda, Boko Haram and so on..... all of these being part of the Islam brand. People are just playing around with semantics to avoid calling a spade a spade. Either that or they are genuinely confused, and I can't blame them for being confused because they have listened to years of Media lies and misinformation.

I'm not sure it's big news yet.

https://www.rt.com/business/349008-iceland-uk-northern-union/

They could start by raising the voting age from 18 to something more sensible like 21 or 25. Somebody who has worked for a few years and paid bills has a better understanding of life and economics than a kid who has just left school.

The Phoenicians were the great seafarers and traders of the Ancient World - their capital city was Tyre (now in modern Lebanon). They traded with Tarshish which is where they got their tin from. Tarshish was thy merchant by reason of the multitude of all kind of riches; with silver, iron, tin, and lead, they traded in thy fairs. Ezekiel 27:12 The identity of Tarshish has been a subject of controversy for a number of years, but archaeologists, historians and metallurgists believe that the only commercial supply of tin in the Ancient World was Britain (Cornwall). In fact the Greek historian Herodotus referred to a land known as the Tin Isles somewhere north of mainland Europe. After the sacking of Tyre by Alexander the Great it is possible that the Phoenicians transferred their base to Tarshish. As at the report concerning Egypt, so shall they be sorely pained at the report of Tyre. Pass ye over to Tarshish; howl, ye inhabitants of the isle.Is this your joyous city, whose antiquity is of ancient days? her own feet shall carry her afar off to sojourn. Isaiah 23:5-7 Tarshis is referred to in scripture as a maritime nation. There is also a future prophecy of Tarshish that may possibly describe the rise and fall of the British Empire. The British Empire was the largest commercial entity at one time and her power depended on her huge navy. Howl, ye ships of Tarshish: for your strength is laid waste. And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot. Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered. Isaiah 23:14-16 This is followed by a commercial revival of Tarshish after a period of seventy years (roughly round about now depending on how you define the actual date that the empire ended). And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the Lord will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth. And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the Lord: it shall not be treasured nor laid up; for her merchandise shall be for them that dwell before the Lord, to eat sufficiently, and for durable clothing. Isaiah 23:17-18 Tarshish is referred to here as a political identity in her own right. Tarshish is also referred to as an independent nation in the book of Ezekiel chapter 38 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? Ezekiel 38:13 Are the young lions the offspring of Tarshish? (eg the U.S.A).

Then again.... is it possible that Britain is not meant to be in the EU? Could it be that prophecy is being fulfilled? https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/198942-is-brexit-part-of-prophecy/

The human eye can only see so far with the unaided eye, so a circular field of vision will always be there. And it is NOT the zetetic movement that has its origins in freemasonry, this a downright lie - it is actually the heliocentric theory that has its origins in freemasonry. Copernicus was a Jesuit freemason. The Ancient Jews believed in a Flat Earth. Next you'll be telling us that the Jews were freemasons. Observational science proves that the Earth is not a spinning globe for reasons that have been given countless times on this forum but persistently ignored.

Europe played a massive role in introducing these laws. Britain was forced by European law to take in immigrants and care for them. Merkel was a big player in this. It's not as if all the immigrants were European ones - many of them came from outside of the EU, so there was no legal right to their entry, but the plutocrats of the EU over-rided the decisions of sovereign nations and forced their will upon the people. Europe is a federal tyranny, little different to the aspirations of Obama and his kind who want to see the same tyranny occurring in the U.S.A. Why do you think that Obama gave Cameron his support for wanting to remain in the EU? Obama had no business sticking his nose in. The EU was nothing but a gravy train for politicians and bureaucrats. They squandered billions of tax-payers' money, just like Obama's DC is doing to ordinary Americans today. In fact the situation was so bad that even some British MPs complained about it. I recommend going to YouTube and typing in "Godfrey bloom the state is an institution of theft" to see what one British patriot had to say about it. Here's the link if you're interested: youtube.com/watch?v=CBVFpYN0iNo - it's just over a minute long so it won't take up much of your time. The EU has wasted billions on lining the pockets of bureaucrats and greedy politicians and they have persisted in introducing laws and restrictions on people who never asked for it. It's about time this Communist bureaucracy was abolished. The British people were tricked into joining in the first place. It was meant to be a free trade agreement not a federation but it didn't take long for the greedy fascists to turn it into something else!

London officially has more foreigners and non-native Brits than it does natives. It's hardly surprising.

I voted to leave, so I'm pleased with this.

Oh yes he has. I've already put in a complaint about it. He's deleted the post now..... but it was there. He's also posted a video that will accept no replies. He has no right to stop freedom of speech.

You really are a coward aren't you OM? If you were so confident that your opinions were true, you would allow other opinions but I noticed that you have posted a video mocking those who disagree with you and you have made it so that nobody can reply. Another abuse of your privilege as a mod (which hasn't gone unnoticed) and another censoring of free speech. You are a little tyrant. What are you scared of? Just who do you think you are? I'm going to ask you some questions. If you're a man you'll face them and answer them. If you're a doubter you will run away from them or try to change the subject.. The Bible tells us that the Earth has a firmament above it with water above that. Did NASA send rockets above the Earth's atmosphere and then travel through water? Please answer this question. It's your stage. Everybody is watching. The Bible gives us a description of the Earth. Why throughout Ancient Times did not one single Jew believe that the Earth was a spinning globe orbiting the Sun? Were they guilty of poor exegesis? Did they not read the Torah properly? When we look at a mountain range, why do we not see high distant mountains lean away from each other? Surely they would if the Earth was curved? Take your time. It's simple Common Sense and I'm sure that a man of your capabilities can answer such a simple question. And don't reply with your usual clownish trickery. I'm not talking about mountains that are close because I know that you're a master of misrepresentation - I'm talking about distant mountains that are well beyond the expanse of where we should see curvature. Here's a tip for you: Don't reply with 'optical illusion'. Optical illusions are temporary phenomena that can be explained by atmospheric conditions, refraction of light etc. The fact that we NEVER see distant mountains or distant skyscrapers lean away from each other or lean away from us if they are in front of our view but dropping below the horizon (but they always remain perpendicular) means that there is no optical illusion taking place, unless of course, it's a permanent one. If it is a permanent one then how can we ever trust the evidence of our own eyes? Why does the Moon give out cold light but the Sun give out warm light if the Moon merely reflects the light of the Sun? Anybody can carry out this experiment. With a simple infra-red laser thermometer you can easily determine that moonlight is colder than the shade. But sunlight is always hotter than the shade. How can that be if the Moon is merely a reflector of the Sun and does not give out its own light? If you mock and declare that this is a bogus answer then I'm willing to send you an infra-red thermometer free of charge through the post from your country to my country - at my own cost so that you have no excuse to try this out for yourself. If you don't trust my tools then pick any infra-red thermometer that you like from Amazon (or elsewhere) and I will buy it for you (within reason). That's how confident I am. And anybody who reads this knows that I have made such a claim. By the way, I'm not the only one who has carried out this experiment - thousands have and I can show you proof if you push me towards doing so. As for your flat Earth map doubts well I have a surprise for you. Ordinary commercial airline routes already follow flat Earth maps - they even follow bizarre routes in the Southern Hemisphere that make no sense on traditional globe maps. Now if you had researched this you would have known that. Just go to YouTube and type in Flat Earth Southern Hemisphere airline routes and you will be surprised at the results - and yes all your doubts about distances that you have expressed above are explained too,scientifically, logically and satisfactorily. If you'd even bother to research this subject in the slightest you would have known that, but you couldn't even be bothered to do that because your pride makes you believe that you already have all the answers - is that not right? And don't you dare talk about conventional wisdom. Convential wisdom is man-made. I'm more interested in talking about God's wisdom. If you want I will provide all the proof that you need if you're up to the challenge, but I suspect that you'll just go away post your own little video, abuse your privileges again, and block your little ears from criticism. Oh, and you can delete this thread if you like but it won't be forgotten. I have a copy of it... and yes, I can easily put this copy online, elsewhere where you can't touch it with your name above it. And I have enough email addresses and contacts here to make sure that they will all know where to find it. So what are you waiting for? Take your time and reply when you are ready. Remember that this is an open challenge and all eyes are on you including the Lord's!