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Required ? I do not think this is what it says, so this means we are ordered and told what we will do, then the free will does not exist, ? I ask this questions for I know what the bible says and you believe that I don't, and so this is okay , but if you have scripture please feel free to show it, and not twist what is not being said in scripture, for we have choice, and we are if we follow what is told to love, and to give, of our selves, not ordered to do anything, ? I have asked a few questions, and not been given my answer, do you think that because someone knows the bible they also know how to conduct them selves, by the scriptures, or do they read scriptures and know of a understanding of words, so when a lesson is being taught it must have a give and take, and a understanding to solve, it, if that is not in its place, nothing gets solved, and only hate comes, and division, and so , a actor not only knows there lines, but has to act out on them for the actor, must understand and be the part he, or she plays, simple !

then I have to say ?, there is a contradiction with this you say we need to follow the commandment of God and what was told to us and we need to follow and yet, when in Leviticus people are told about unclean and clean , and today we say all is clean, this is not what God says , ? in the book of Isaiah 65 and 66 it tells us of the coming of the anger of the lord and clearly states that those, that purify them selves with the unclean , things, will he take his vengeance out on, and so we then see that it was never ment to have what is Gods word unclean , clean, and so where do we accept or deny this two chapters ? then we have taken it upon our selves to do what we are told not to , and this is not following , from what I understand is the word of God ,? this is a more then a fair question, and when I brought it, up it was removed , ? so could I get a honest answer, ? I am just asking and then I will let it go , for you know its about learning, and I am just looking for simple, answers, I am not making anything up ,but this two chapters I would say needs to be addressed just like the rapture debate, ?pre post and trib, not all have the say answer, and all believe different? we all have our own opinions,. yes, but could you please answer this , you have a great knowledge of the bible, what do you say it means then ? thank you for your time, shalom

so tell me can you interpret your own tongue as you speak, and what does it do for you and how does this work, if you say you have this gift, I have to say , I do not agree, simply for I do not believe in it, but of course, this is my own opinion., and I will not publically ever try to be rude or judge, only love my fellow brother and sisters, ' so if you believe you have this gift, more power to you , I have my own understanding and way that I think that, is not like many , its because, I am just me, no insult intended,

I am claiming that it is not for us today , it was when other dialects were out and they needed to get the word out in there own native tongue, and so today i believe this to be not what the bible says , and so we twist what the bible says to justify what I believe is against what God in tended, so this is fair and is my own opinion,

ditto,,,

okay tell me M.G and BoPeep you speak in tongues, ? this was in the past, it is not of the future, and so tell me you speak ,in tongues, ? this was a language thing, and not of a babel possession? what do you say ?

is any and every one cut out to be a disciple, and how do we know if they or the people are teaching truth , for there is so much contradictions to ideas in scripture that no one, understands the simple word of God , so this, comes to knowing what we are to be preaching, many say they know, and they don't, and those that know, how do they get out and reach people, for I see a lot of false teaching for not understanding scripture as it was meant to be told . and if you use a NIV bible there is scripture completely removed, and changed so , we are all not even with the same, bibles and it changes in terminaolgy ? thanks

that was address , very well, and you have done your home, work I see, but I did not say that the papacy or the pope was the beast , I said that the rome, empire still has a major part, in all of this and more today , and no one knows what power, exists from this country and the Vatican, but I will look up what you said and place it side by side with the other frame, work that others have explained it to be, the same, and so I need some, time, to look this, up , thank you very much for your answer and giving me food for thought and more research to look up, blessings to you and shalom

okay so the word is that Rome, is not even part of the end times, events, ? this I have to disagree for it all circles around this country and its history and so we can not dis miss it, there is more power in this then people realize, second are you stating that there is a attack and a possible assisination on the beast and he comes, back according to revelation #13 ? so if you believe that then the rome, taken out of power, is not the head would that was stated in prophecy ? is this what you want to believe is what the scripture says , ? I am just asking, for there is another terminology of the head wound of the beast , and so we have two different events for this one scripture, ? just asking, shalom

it amazes me to see how we are so caught up in the little things and the things of this world and no real, seeking of God , but it is what it is , for the great delusion is come, and is here, and so those that are righteous will be and those that are not will not be, we see that we get wrapped up in the events around the world and the drama of the world and the famous people and all this is to really occupy < your mind, we have been deceive to believe and follow everything and whats most, recent in clothes fashion, holly wood, and the stars and the elections, as if any of this is going to be a benefit to a lost and dying world , we are comfortable in our homes, and just, as the world turns, drama upon drama, and gossip upon gossip , and about that television show and that new thing, and that commercial I would say many of us have slipped right in to the same, pass with the masses, do we know that we are being tested right now, and what we are allowing in our lives and what is effecting us, by movies and everything around us, for the blind they lead the blind into the ditch, and so life goes, on, and where is God in all this ? how do we rate God, in our lives and compared to the nickel dime things that keep us away from him and the time, we have is it on computers and our self, or God, would we rather watch a two hour movie over reading thirty minutes of bible scripture, ? where is our minds and focus, , do we really love and follow the God we talk about , or is it just talk ? and show for others as they are looking , what do we have to do , to really love God and put it in producing good fruits ?

do you not say for example that we have Christian cults every where, ? on television, in churches, and on the radio, saying they are spreading the word of Jesus and yet getting many to follow the wide and broad path that leads to destruction, , and the others that pick and choose as they wish words and scripture that is convient on what they will do and believe in the bible and not follow what they don't want in the bible, this would also be a abomination to God , and even worst in the sight of God ,for He hates those that know the word and yet, use it for gain, and for position of the self I would say we need to look at a lot of Christian groups, and see the evil and the false teaching and cultic pagan rituals and compromise in them ., would that not be fair to say ? for satan has infiltrated every thing under the sun, and if it be possible to deceive even the elect, ? shalom

You know Omegaman you can start a book with this post its so large , did you get it all in there ? lol are we called, to discipleship as was told to the apostles, or are we called, to learn and understand and spread the words as people who found and seeked the God, of Gods, and king of kings, ? are we all called to be diciplies ? or are we told just to share the Good news, ? what is the meaning of diciples, and what is the meaning of loving one another, for the sake of the almighty ? shalom

well sister, I have to disagree with you that God does (911 and emergency calls, I am not saying that prayers are not answered , and I am not saying that God does not have his hand in things, also , and so , we need top focus and realize that we call on God and for any and everything, and many don't know God until there is a emergency? and so I have to say that Jesus came and died for us, and then rose from the dead, we are saved in our souls and the next life, but here on earth we can pray , and the prayers are heard, but , I have a different take on this, and many may disagree with me, but I am going to say that we follow the ways that we have conducted our selves, and when its bad we say God has abandon us, and when we are good we are blessed, I believe this to be a false indicator to our selves and others, for what about those that were godly people that died and had faith in God and prayed for their lives and yet their lives were not spared ? can we account for those that are starving right now the children in the third world country and dying ,because they have no food ? we are told that the lord provides all of our needs and knows every hair on our head, so not to be rude or bad, but let us take a moment to see, how God does answer us, why does bad things happen to good and godly people, do we say we are blessed when we lose a love one ? do we say we are blessed when we have a nice house, and a nice car, is these the things we pray for, and if we don't have them does God still love, us ? are we to understand that we have God as a genie to get what we ask for, and yet we do not fully understand what we believe to be the truth ? this may seem hard to accept, but I believe that Gods has given us the free will and we are to make the best of it, and to endure until the end and for what we do we need to be accountable , and if he reached in and saved everyone all the time, and granted all the wishes people ask for then who is God, for there is a different God here in the bible that I read, and it is not about wishing and getting, if I am wrong, please feel free to let me know , but we do not have a God that we control, and for I believe until its the end of the road then I think is when we go to him, and we have to do the best we can in this world with what we are delt with , this was to bring some truth to a misunderstanding of who God really is, for if God was going to grant anything, would he not have stopped the crucifixion ? just asking, he said if it be possible to take the cup from him, and so , we need to think about these things, I think we put to much stock in a easy snap my finger type of God, and everything is a yes or a no, that's just my thoughts, I know its deep, but it is my thoughts, shalom

watch out for the wolves know how to talk sheep language ? so watch what you say, for you may be talking, into the ear of a wolf, ? and so not everyone, is going to have a wolf shirt, or hat to identify them, you need to look and open your eyes and when you see them, ? you will know , for they have really big eyes and large teeth, and they may be trying to lick, you, to get a taste,? lol

no its brotherly love, , lol... right brother

this is a great lesson for those that take, the great advise, and understand it, ?but many here do not understand this concept, and would rather argue and hate and fight and get angry and , ..get even . I see it every day , so who is learning if no one listens ? blessings to you , and its a great post, sister blessings to you angels4u shalom

I would say you are correct, but it would be of what spirit you follow, for we are filled with the holy spirit, but we can still be persuaded to do the things, we are not to , for it is still the sinful flesh that we are trapped, in , until we no longer live in these tents ? as paul stated I do the things I do not want, but this is life, shalom

Fruits, we need to be, fruit inspectors, we need to see , that the sheep are not howling, and that others are not able to come in and scatter the flock, we need to be watching and in prayer and in the word , we need to be asking for strength and wisdom, and most of all, even when all else fails, kill them with loving kindness, for there guilt and there actions will be on there head, and you have done, all that you could as a child of God amen ...blessings and shalom

this is given to the so called believers, for they were awaiting also and yet they fell short, in the endurance of being and seeking God, for they were not ready , and even did not take God seriously? fact and moral of the story , not all that says they are, ... is ?

that was great KAN, thank you for the response, I will take notes and digest this , blessings to you . shalom

we talk about the end of the Gentile world , would it not be every one, today , for we have been scattered , and those that are to find, God through the spirit, are to hear the word and heed the call,? well if we are waiting for that number to be ready , and fullness of the Gentiles, what do we do in the mean time, to occupy ? for I believe that the bible states what we see as the events come, and arrive, and yet we see, that our country and world becomes, even darker and more evil, by the day , are we planning and getting ready for tribulation, and the events that are about to happen, like maybe a take over, or a fall of the economy , a bomb goes, off, we can only imagine, that something could be around the corner, and so our eyes cannot be fixed on these events, alone, we are to plan and be ready for any thing, ,and even up to tribulation, , war , or the bottom falls out in our money , so how do we occupy now ? this would be the question, are we ready if we are to face some, rough and life changing events , for we are not going to have all that we have forever, and the net, is closing in on , us, and so where is the faith , on God, we need to be focused., and watching, for the events and the prophecies will fall as they need, but our lives, may need more help, and preparation, prior to these things to come, that's just what I see, for our future , do you not see it , ,? was we not told by Jesus him self, that we will have tribulation, and persecution, is on its way ? blessings

I am not amazed to hear, how simple it is to learn and to show someone, Jesus , but I believe that no one, really learns , until they have really surrendered and their life,changes, to the tune, of the belief and the inthe lord, I hear many say , we need to love one another, and share, but what happens to those, that want to rob, the seeds and the words, when trying to be compassionate, and then we have the do as I say , but I do evil to others, for it is a self pride, and then we see that this is not how it works, or we are watching talk and yet the actions, are speaking differently ? how do we bring people to God and not show them the self of our pride ,hat gets in the way ? for I see, what I see, and some, people can fool some, people some, of the time, but I am not convinced, for I know truth ,and what truth the word of God,must be placed as the fruits of the trees that are supplying ,one another, and I see bad fruits, among the bunch, and so how do we weed out the bad fruit from the good fruits ? for teaching is not , to be taken lightly , for there is value, in the holiness and power in the life, that one, should take, into account before trying to convince some one of a belief or religion, that they don't even understand, blessings

that's a good one, retrobyter blessings to you , and I am glad to be able to respond, now to you , I was, tide up for a moment, if you know what I mean, and so let, us get to some, truth ? for many do not want to hear truth for it is a offense to those that walk in the spirit of the world and say that they are of the truth , so what is this about lawlessness ? great that you brought this up, it is any one, even those that say they are believers and not follow the laws of God, and so it is said, when they replied, to the lord, did we not cast out demons, and do this and do that, in your name, for these are the ones, that know that there is a God, and yet they have fallen very short, for they have done what they have pleased and not follow the commandments and the laws that govern our conduct, to obedience, and to be in the way of the lord, for many today are saying they are believers, but they only believe what they wish , and ring the bells, to show others that they are holy and forgiven but this is not to be boasted about, for there is Gods part, that has been accomplished and finished, and then there is our part, to follow and pray , and to follow every word of God, for nothing , is abolished, and so ' can we say we follow God if we are not following what God has told us, ? NO, absolutely not !! but many appear to think they can just, make it what is in their minds, and so they fool them selves, and lawlessness is judged to our account also , and its not about pointing over there and over here., but to look in the mirror and to examine our lives, for we may be short, of the following we say that we do ,? this is a fact , and truth , any one can challenge this if they wish, but it is scripture and the word of God in the bible that we pick and choose, that is not following Gods plan for us, shalom, and blessings to you , I like your response, by the way ,

this is true, blessings to you , angels4u, well said, shalom

if we do not know what faith is ? , and what works is,? then we deceive our selves to know ? , and how, it works hand in hand, for those that want to just sit on the couch, and say Jesus did it all for me, and I do not lift a finger, nor, bat a eye have been deceived, period and are not following what faith in the word is all about,? it seems ,that it is too hard to comprehend the logic that is given in instruction and in word, by James and by John, it is clear, that the hearing of the word brings us to our faith , and to believe on Him that is able to save and to bring us life, eternal we of our selves, produce light and works, of the faith ,that we believe in ? we cannot have faith with out works, for then it shows we were never saved to start with , and as for the thief on the cross, it was already late in the game, and he was on his dying course, and saw that Jesus was the God and the savior, and so he reached out, in faith and in belief to God to call on him, and Jesus answered him, and so if any one thinks by simply believing and not lifting a finger is what the scripture is stating then ,they are most greatly deceived, and believe lies, for the devil does not want you to function in the capacity, of knowing there is the fruit of the spirit , for the spirit lives with in you ,for the spirit is dead were there is no action, and no understanding of our duty and call to the word, for the word of God and salvation, still comes with a cost, of work,? even though it is not of our selves but Christ that has saved, we cannot boast, and so it is not works, to get us in, where we are there, but it is the mind set, and the heart renewal that has changed to make us do what we do , from that point on, that shows us, and others that God has taken place with in our lives , and so now we produce the works of faith , through the spirit that drives us to produce fruit, believe this or not, if you believe in something, you will put in something, so if you put in nothing , you will get nothing, for in the measure that you have commit yourselves , so shall be your rewards, ? it is not about works, to gain entrance, but in obedience and love that we come to the knowledge of a work of the heart and the will for the father, if we say we believe and do nothing , we are liars,? if we say we believe and do something about it, even by sharing and doing something, then we are truly abiding, for Jesus even said, who are you to be followers, and believers of me, ? but those that went to the prisons ,and visited me, and those, that gave me drink , of water, and gave me clothes, those that did what was kind, and right , in the eyes of the lord, is this work ? well is it ? it is doing and helping as Jesus came to save and heal , and give, we are to reflect the same, He stated on the cross it is finished, and now we must do our part, in this life, so let us not be divided on , what the truth is ?, for the truth is clear, and those that walk in the holiness and righteousness, of the love given, will also give there love to others, ? we miss quote, many passages and scripture to what we want it to say and mean, when we need to read it through the eyes of a loving father, and know that salvation, is for those that also love ? we cannot do any of this, nor be followers if , we do not know the COST? and if we do not follow the instructions and the commandments given to us, for Jesus said we are His only if we follow, what is written and the law , and the commandments for all scripture, and every word is for our instruction, learning and for edyfing of the body, blessings and shalom