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Visions and dreams do NOT replace accepted interpretation of scripture. This includes popular Dispensationalist theories as well as a lot of secularized predictions now accepted by the post-modern church. WWII was the most violent destructive war in human history. Over 85 Million human beings died during those years, including six million Jews. Are you honestly suggesting we should look forward to more such war, more destruction and more meaningless loss of life? Only those who hate humanity and love war would welcome such a scenario. I absolutely reject such an interpretation...such a possibility. IF PEACEMAKERS ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, WHOSE CHILDREN ARE THOSE WHO MAKE WAR? Isn't there enough militarization going on right now without hoping and praying for more? Indeed, there is far too much. Nobody talks about peace any more. Nobody wants it, even in our churches. Among those people the popular idea is to look forward to more war....with the false hope that they will somehow be excused from it. They won't. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a 'peace conference,' you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and airplanes. (Joseph Stalin) Every industrialized nation on this planet is heavily engaged in the manufacture and production of war material. The sale of equipment and ammunition is greater than at any other time in history. In the 1990's when Soviet Communism collapsed, America began to look for somebody else to attack. 911 was conjured out of 1960's war plans (Operation Northwoods - rejected by President Kennedy at the time) and put in action. The result was the current state of endless war in which America is deeply involved (USA now engaged in 6 to 8 wars and shadow wars as of this writing). It's wrecking our economy and our hope for the future. When Jesus arrives on this planet His administration will be VERY unpopular because He will bring peace. Think about that. that's me, hollering from the choir loft..... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

I am watching the seasons....watching for the return of the King of the Jews to redeem His people Israel. THAT is the primary task for those who are called to allegiance in Christ....to watch, to be witnesses of the last days. And these days there's a lot to keep our eyes upon....a lot.... that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

My daughter and son in law visited NYC a few weeks ago. They were cautioned by New Yorkers to NOT ride the trains (subways) because they are too dangerous. They walked quickly through Times Square and decided they wouldn't go near there again. Times square is full of filthy weed smoke, needles and panhandlers. It stinks - literally. I visited my uncle in Danville, CA. recently. Thinking it would be a good idea to take the Metro light rail commuter train into San Francisco from Danville to do some sightseeing, I was told not to go there. All the station platforms are full of homeless, feces, needles and assorted small criminal types. The downtown areas is littered with closed store fronts. He showed me other places to visit. The same is true for every major city in the United States and many medium sized ones. America used to be a country with beautiful cities, but no more. Filth and criminal activity rule the land. No miracle ever performed on earth could reverse the trends that have seized a country that's become godless - America. We have falsely persuaded ourselves that if we pray for heaven's help there will be a reversal of our fortunes. That is a false hope today, because America doesn't want heaven's help, neither does it or any church want to abide by or respect God's Holy LAW. Being thus convinced that lawlessness is the way, we are sinking into our own filth and decay. God will not help those who turn their backs upon Him and disrespect Him at every opportunity. Dreams notwithstanding, the Tribulation has already happened. Antisemitic gentiles refuse to acknowledge the crime against humanity that was perpetrated in the Holocaust as well as its historic significance in any form of eschatology. This is one reason why I left the church. There are far too many bloodthirsty unjust church types that simply will not lose their hatred of Jews and their false notions of what is COMING upon us. Its long past time when our churches should preach REPENTANCE, but the major denominations refuse to do so. I've spoken to preachers and ministers who've told me its not the kind of subject they want to speak about. America shall have its reward and it will be a shocker when it arrives. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

Oh really? WHO IS Y'SHUAH? He is KING OF THE JEWS, not pope of the church or president of the EU or highest magistrate of the USA. I'll repeat it KING OF THE JEWS. The entire narrative of the Bible is about Jews and the coming King. Do you have someone else in mind to fill that role? that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

I have no idea who Ken Peters pretends to be. He's probably among the current crop of false prophets .... pandering his tripe to gullible religious types....for profit, not prophet. Israel is at the heart of ALL Biblical prophecy. Israel is the pivot point of prophecy, not America, not Europe, not Russia and certainly not the far east. That's it and that's all. Other nations are only footnotes in the Biblical narrative. From the first word of Genesis to the last word of Revelation its about ISRAEL - none other. Once that FACT is established all interpretations can be placed in one of two major categories; truth or rubbish. That being said, the Tribulation has already happened AND IT HAPPENED TO THE JEWS....per the Bible, not some back woods self-proclaimed Nazi loving false prophet. A number of prophecies pointed to a time of severe trouble, or tribulation depending upon the English translation being consulted. Jeremiah called it tribulation. Daniel hinted it would last 7 years. Jesus said it would only happen ONCE. Most people who embrace the future tribulation theory call Christ a liar as well as His prophets. They cannot let go of the lie they've swallowed, so any other source of information is rejected without consideration - or PROOF. Nazi Germany implemented its policy of extremist persecution of Jews in 1938. It lasted until 1945, a period of 7 years. Halfway through this period (January 1942) Reinhard Heydrich, chief of Nazi secret police held the Wannsee Conference. This conference discussed and implemented murder of Jews on an industrial scale - with industrial preferences to materials and transportation. This increased speed in massacre of innocent Jews was called 'The Final Solution'. THE SHAME OF IT ALL is that antisemitic American Christians deny the whole thing. Instead they either deny it happened at all, or they look forward to a time when MORE JEWS WILL NEEDLESSLY DIE. Fanatic Nazi types would agree with them completely. "Places in America that would completely convert"? Have you been to New York City recently? If anyone wears a Kippa or demonstrates the clothing style of an orthodox Jew on NYC streets they are spat upon. I've been told as much by people who've experienced it. The possibility of a severe beating is common as well. We aren't discussing doctrine any more. We're talking about overt hostility and bloodshed. New York City is now a godless metropolis as are most major cities in America. Don't believe me? Go there and see for yourself! The United States is now a nation in revolt against the Almighty and we shall certainly reap the penalty for turning our backs upon His grace. Most churches have betrayed the gospel. Their leaders absolutely refuse to preach teach or otherwise promote Biblical concepts such as REPENTANCE or Mosaic LAW apart from which nobody can be saved. I've been told this personally by church leaders. Mr. Peters is dead wrong for two reasons. First is that the Tribulation has already happened. Second is that nobody seems to preach Biblical principles any more. The Gay Agenda has swept through all the major denominations, with the possible exception of Baptists. The gospel has been betrayed and no spirit from God will visit our congregations for revival. The times of the gentiles are OVER. (Luke 21:24) Its all about blessings upon Israel now. It is Israel that will experience a revival. (Actually its beginning to happen NOW.) If the reader wants to know what's really going on, then one would be well advised to watch the seasons.....not some braindead YouTube preacher. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

The operative word in the scripture you quoted is IF. America has passed the Rubicon, the point of no return. America is NOT God's people. Israel is God's people. America has turned its back upon God and does NOT pay any attention to the divine nature except to mistakenly suppose God is some sort of spiritual vending machine - insert a prayer (or twenty bucks in church) and receive a blessing. America is the principle source of violence, SIN and wickedness on the entire planet. "The US government is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." (Martin Luther King, Jr. circa 1966) "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." (Martin Luther King, Jr.) In 1952 congress established a "national day of prayer". God heard our prayers that wisdom be granted to our leaders. God granted this wisdom, but our leaders used it to betray us and destroy nations without just cause. America is wholly persuaded of hubris and fanatical support of its military objectives around the world. Peace is NOT the purpose of any of our adventures at home or abroad. Neither is the pursuit of God a consideration of anyone any more. "Gott mitt uns," was a propaganda phrase used by Hitler's Germany. It translates to "God is with us". It wasn't true for Germany then and it isn't true today that "God bless America". Look at the news every day. In our faces is destruction and devastation and national humiliation. Our leaders are betraying us or are convicted felons. What has happened to American integrity and honesty? It is gone. What has happened to American devotion to God? It is gone. "The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disegards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven iself hath ordained." (George Washington April 30, 1789 NYC (dedication of the nation)) The church is very busy apologizing to atheists, Gays and everyone who hates God. In doing this it has subverted its own purpose, betrayed the gospel and turned its back upon the Almighty. It shall not stand. In ten to fifteen years the church will have shrunk almost to the point of non-existence. Many will no longer attend and will forget why they went to church in the first place. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

THE POINT here is completely missed simply because church dogma and religious slogans are considered to be of greater worth than scripture itself. The post-modern church is today guilty of the same errors as the pharisees of Jesus' day. It has denied the LAW (just as the Jews do) and substituted its own ordinances. It has denied God's tradition (Just as the Jews did) and substituted pagan observances instead. Consequently the post-modern church is as ignorant of the advent of Messiah as the Jews of Jesus' day were..... In question here is the status of 'worthy-ness' and the day of the coming of the Lord - also called THE DAY OF THE LORD. The calendar day isn't known because its scripturally linked to the YEAR OF JUBILEE as established in the LAW of Moses. Since the church denies God's LAW it's also ignorant of the LAW's precepts, promises and history. Prophetic suggestions that the advent of Messiah is linked to the Year of Jubilee are legion. Moses established Jubilee, but it was never observed either by Moses, Joshua or any who followed him in leadership. By the time of Jesus, the actual count of years had been forgotten BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW WHEN THE COUNT HAD STARTED. Jubilee calculation is a simple act of arithmetic which has been derailed because the starting point is unknown. It's not a metaphysical issue. Its mathematical in nature. Hence Jesus' answer that nobody knows the day was valid to everyone who heard Him speak about it. Since the post-modern church now denies the LAW of Moses it's entirely ignorant of this argument and has substituted pagan myths in its place.....invalidating a great deal of eschatological conjecture. Returning to the most important aspect of the lead post we ask 'what is worthiness'? Evangelicals USED TO evangelize, but do so no more. "Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he." (Prov. 29:18) Today the basic message of the gospel has been lost in the chaff of faux-religious slogans and pitches for money to support a dying church enterprise. It's been lost in the popular pressure to accept that which is defined as politically correct rather than Biblically accurate. The basic message of the gospels is the duty of each man and woman to make personal peace with God. This is enabled by Jesus Christ who died upon the cross and shed His blood to redeem those who seek peace with God. It is NOT enabled by accepting every foolish argument to justify the works of man. PEACE WITH GOD IS NOT AUTOMATIC.....according to the LAW of Moses. One must earnestly seek it and accept it, but most people don't want it. (John 3:19) Instead they want a pagan god on their side to grant favors. They want to insert prayers into a divine vending machine and receive favors and blessings they do not deserve. (classic Greek mythology) IT IS OUR DUTY TO SERVE AND HONOR GOD. It is NOT God's duty to honor humans. We seem to have forgotten that simple gospel message. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

THIS IS a political argument, not one of faith. It shouldn't even be considered a valid point of view. IMO the RCC does not represent the gospel since it's a religion of works rather than faith. This was established by the fathers of the protestant reformation 500 years ago, but seems to have been forgotten in the rush to make everyone equal EXCEPT those who hold to faith in Jesus Christ. The lead post and subsequent opinion expressed therein are completely political and questionable in terms of morality. The only valid question was one of forgiveness, which non-church types seem to think is owed to them but disallowed by them toward the faith community. Forgiveness is not understood properly. According to the LAW of Moses one must ASK for forgiveness before one can be granted forgiveness. Additionally, one must pledge NOT to repeat those actions (repent) for which one is asking forgiveness. I read nothing here in terms of a pledge of repentance by non-church types or of ASKING forgiveness. Therefore it is neither deserved nor properly granted. Those who have committed offense will continue to be held in derision simply because THEY DON'T WANT TO BE FORGIVEN. that's me, hollering from the choir loft.... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

Typical of those who deny scripture. Antisemitic Jew hate....pure and simple....and as disgusting as any lie of the devil. Who is JESUS CHRIST? He said it wouldn't happen again. Jeremiah called it Tribulation and Daniel said it would be a seven year period. HISTORY marks the time from 1938 to 1945 as the most troubling period Jews had ever known in all of history. 7 years. Deny it all you want. Six million dead Jews will call you a liar. 85 million dead during WWII will do the same. May they all haunt your waking and sleeping mind. Those that deny history, the prophets of Israel and Christ Himself are those who would rewrite everything for their own purpose. What is that purpose? To justify antisemitic hatred of Jews and to hope for ANOTHER bloodbath of innocent men women and children simply because they don't attend church. Nazis love that sort of doctrine. Such persons ought to be ashamed of themselves for wishing evil upon Jews. God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse it. The 1st church of Mephistopheles believes as you do. Of such were the pharisees of Jesus' time. They wouldn't admit what was going on either. Such people will have their reward (John 3:19). that's me, hollering from the choir loft.... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

I don't understand your perspective regarding the scripture you quoted. Israel DOES dwell in the land given to its fathers. They have their own army and flag and government. The STATE OF ISRAEL is real.....may Adonai bless them one and all. Israel DOES walk according to the statutes Adonai gave to Moses. Ever been in Israel on Shabbat (sabbath)? If you had, then you'd see it with your own eyes. On the other hand, America no longer respects a day of worship no matter when it's held. Speak to THAT issue instead. Israel IS CLEAN from all its idols (unlike American churches). Go to Israel and see for yourself. Except for the Islamic Arab community *, it's a nation far cleaner than the US. Aliyah is the new tradition of expatriate Jewish return to Israel. "Making Aliyah" refers to the act of 'going up' to Jerusalem. GOOGLE IT. What is the New Covenant? Most church types have NO IDEA what the term Old Covenant refers to. The new doesn't replace or abolish the OLD covenant. (Matt 5:17) Most church types have no idea what either covenant is about. Instead they're all about licentious SIN (a form of 'hyper-grace' that allows a church type to put their hands on any filthy thing they desire) This abomination never pleased Adonai anywhere at any time. (1 Peter 4:17) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LICENSE TO SIN. Church types really should be extra careful they try to apply their limited knowledge of the Bible and their antisemitic attitudes to an authentic interpretation of scripture and historic events specific to THE STATE OF ISRAEL. The Israel spoken of in scripture today is the STATE OF ISRAEL, not a corrupt debauched self-ordained religious club that calls itself 'spiritual Israel' (replacement theology). MOST of what you refer to has already happened or IS happening. Case in point is the Tribulation. That already happened from 1938 - 1945, a period of 7 years of the most horrific treatment ever accorded Jews by industrialized CHRISTIAN nation(s). Church types refuse to acknowledge the death of six million European Jews because their doctrine demands MORE Jewish blood to be shed. That simply won't happen because Jesus said it would only happen once. (Mark 13:19) It happened boys and girls! It's over and done with and it won't happen again. You can take that one to the bank! that's me, hollering from the choir loft.. (Isaiah 6:9-10) (*) According to Turkish Muslims I've met, Islamic Arabs are "the mules of Islam". Their religion isn't worth the paper Qur'an is printed on.

Sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4 is a reference to genetic human sexual partners. There is no reference either implicit or implied that spirits were these "sons of God". Indeed, there are many references to 'sons of God' which specifically mention HUMAN. There is far too much space alien supposition in the eisegetical statements made these days. Thereof lies the inspiration of hubris and the error of heresy. Most people prefer fantasy to the truth. (John 3:19) that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

I agree that Isaiah's reference to Lilith may have been the screams of a night bird of some sort. It may have been a night terror which is more in keeping with a sudden loud noise outside the window rather than some ethereal manifestation. (Or perhaps someone got up in the middle of the night and knocked a pitcher off the night stand onto the floor.) References to Lilith as a fallen angel are legion - given the popularity of demonic influences upon the Bible currently read on internet sites of all types. I give no personal credence to any of them, but mentioned it as one of the side issues. I apologize for that bit of errant reference. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

Since when is scripture rightly divided now considered to be hi jacking? I made my case just as everyone else has done. Just because you don't like my conclusions does it mean I'm some sort of troll - or are you the troll for trying to define and delete something that isn't your work in the first place? I submit that you have no logical, historic or scriptural evidence to support your argument...that you haven't stated..... Consequently you have attempted to censor someone who DOES have a valid argument. If you have a good argument opposing mine, then let's read it. Threatening to subvert the conversation isn't my intent, but it does appear to be yours. Please reconsider your attitude and respond logically. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)

You are referring to a war that need not have been fought - Viet Nam. That was a civil war and had nothing to do with American interests except those thrust upon the civilian population by war mongering defense contractors and generals eager for blood and glory. Those that died in the Viet Nam war shouldn't have gone to war in the first place. I lost several good friends, who might be alive today if not for that violation of human rights both American and Vietnamese. Heroism is a term used by chickenhawk civilians who never wore a uniform, who never went in harm's way and who never suffered a permanent disability as a result of military service (as I did). For those of us who served, it is usually admitted we only did our duty....as flagrantly immoral as that duty might have been. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. (JESUS CHRIST Matt 5:9) Saigon fell a year after I returned home. On that day I burned my uniforms. Several veterans of those years asked me, "why did it take you so long?" One of them got off his plane and headed to the men's bathroom intending to exchange his uniforms for civilian clothing...and to leave his government issue in the toilet. When he entered the men's bathroom he saw dozens of uniforms hanging everywhere. Another vet told me he and his friends went outside a California city, buried their uniforms in the desert and got stinking drunk. The only time I was ever proud of my military service was when I was drunk. Patriotism is a word misapplied and misunderstood....usually by those who don't have to risk their own lives to live it. As for me, I worship God NOT THE GOVERNMENT. I learned that God kept me alive even as the government tried to kill me and my buddies. Patriotism is a four letter word in my book. Why isn't it the same for you? Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. (JESUS CHRIST Matt 5:9) Do you seek and glorify war or do you pray for peace? If you don't pray for peace WHY NOT? that's me, hollering from the choir loft.. (Isaiah 6:9-10)

According to commentaries on the subject verses 25-34 are meant to be interpreted in the light of faith in God and what God can provide. The Bible is generally self-interpreting. This is true in verse 32 where Gentiles are compared to Jews. Gentiles don't believe in or depend upon God to provide their needs. Jews do believe. Jews do depend upon God (Adonai). Gentiles (non-Jews) are constantly anxious. Does this imply we are not to plan for the future? It does not. Does this suggest the church should adopt an attitude of complacency? It doesn't. I've sat in churches where the pastor has spoken of the virtues of contentment. Two weeks later he's voicing his own complaint that the congregation is too apathetic. I've shared this before and it bears repeating. Does this apathetic attitude imply a man ought not be deeply concerned AND WORRIED about his spiritual and physical relationship with God (Adonai)? A big NO for this question too. Worry not about God...and suffer the Second Death. Do worry and Do repent and one will receive forgiveness and a release from the burden of anxiety. That's how it works. Hope this helps. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (Isaiah 6:9-10)