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Deception is everywhere.

Deception based on emotional manipulation, sensationalism, abuse of "signs", unsound doctrines, traditions of men, preferring what human leaders say with respect to the Word of God.

Someone faithful to the Gospel may sometimes feel very sad looking at all of this. And it is good to feel the pain from it, because it can be a further motivation to be fully committed to Christ and let Jesus demonstrate that not all of us are like this. 

But in this sadness, when we feel like Christians in love with the Word are a minority, an encouragement resonates from the mouth of our God incarnated:

"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom."

(Luke 12:32)

On 11/21/2018 at 3:15 AM, turtletwo said:

HAPPY THANKSGIVING WISHES FROM MY  TO YOUR HEARTS!

Happy thanksgiving dear turtletwo, and all the forum!

12 hours ago, angels4u said:

Revelation 3:10

 

 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

Come Lord Jesus come..

"At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24)

"Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom." Luke 12:32

Maranatha!

On 11/16/2018 at 6:52 PM, Dennis1209 said:

Not to go off topic, but reading your post, three words popped into my head, "the dark age". What was dark about that age in reality? 

My opinion is; from Constantine and the marrying of church and state, to the Protestant Reformation, God's word was suppressed. No one other than the RCC was allowed to own the Bible or any scripture. It was read in Mass only in Latin, which very few could understand. It was interpreted to the Mass as the priest saw fit. That was a centuries long 'gap' that the Gospel was suppressed and the traditions of man gained steam. Much like what occurred with the Jewish Sadducee's and Pharisee's until Christ. 

This is brilliant Dennis.

And it is not that "off topic", it really explains a lot of things.

There has been a long gap, between the first Christians understanding many more things from the Gospel and praying the Lord to Return, and the "Christians" who just took political power and betrayed the Word for the world.

All of this was forecasted by Jesus, who left us the description of everything that would have happened, in His fights with the Pharisees.

Every words by which He accused the pharisees has perfect relevance in Christianity, starting from "you shut the doors of the Kingdom of Heaven in people faces".

Unfortunately, with so many errors accumulated, even Protestant reform wasn' t enough.

There were still a lot of things to be purified.

Moreover, sometimes even in Protestantism several errors and confusions accumulated, so we should be always on guard, and learn every day from Jesus words.

To reconnect with the OT, with all of these damages happened, with so much division caused for political reasons, there is still a cry that can rise from the remnants in every denomination, all the true lovers of the Lord: Maranatha! Come quickly Lord!

On 7/18/2016 at 6:45 PM, angels4u said:

What for advice can you give in 4 words or less?

 

 

 

 

Read the Gospels* OFTEN

(* by the Gospels I refer in particular to the 4 Gospels. Reading the whole Bible is good, but especially the Gospels are extremely important and concise, such that there is no excuse to not knowing them if not by heart, at least almost by heart)

On 11/16/2018 at 8:58 AM, Mike Mclees said:

If we could see what God see's what would we see? 

Imagine you see a large valley  from a high mountain side and you and Jesus were standing there looking down. You see a river that flows through the valley. There were There were great fields on both sides and the river fed both sides. The one side was protestant and the other side was called Catholic. The valley was called The valley of confusion, and the River that fed the valley was called the river of Confusion

The protestant side was cut up into many fields and each field named themselves and worshiped God according to there own beliefs and doctrines. Those of the individual fields couldn't see very far from their own field so they did not give much thought about what was of the other fields they were only concerned about their field. 

The Catholic side assumed they were the real Church and by using time tried bringing The protestants Back to their side. Now we must remember that both sides were fed by the same river called confusion. being in the valley no one could see the confusion. If one wanted to see The church from where Jesus saw it you would have to leave the valley and climb up to where Jesus was then you could see what God see,s

Remember at Pentecost only one field was planted. They all learned the same doctrines of the apostles. no matter where a church was started it was counted as the same church There was not Catholic or protestant. The word Catholic was just a fluke expression used in a letter that somehow caught on. The same thing with the word Christion which was used to identify those who had received Christ at Antioch. We have the doctrines of the apostles in our bibles. we should not be tossed about by every wind of doctrines that comes down the road. The non Trinitarians  Pentecostals is an example. Jim Jones. Waco Texas. Many Traditional denominations give them selves names that set themselves apart from other churches have peculiar doctrines that twist scripture. All we see today in our modern world churches came from the reformation 1500 AD.

This leaves us to the question, How will the Lord who sees all choose his bride. There are no denominations in Gods kingdom. Have you looked at you own walk lately. His bride hhas made herself ready and gowns were given clean and white. the time has come for the great super. The marriage super of the Lamb. 

No ye not the ye are The Temple and that the spirit of God is in you.

God bless 

 

This is an amazing post.

Many Catholics think they are right because they trust their leaders and they think that their leaders are the "true descendants" of the apostles.

Many Protestants think they are right just for being protestant, by mentioning some principles like "Sola Scriptura", but often without really being faithful to those principles, and by usually trusting human "teachers" in the same way Catholics do.

Yet Jesus didn't teach to use any "title", as you said.

And the reason why, is that specific "titles" comes from having "human masters", and Jesus was clear about them:

"But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. ⁹ And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. ¹⁰ Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah."

Matthew 23

It is really dangerous to just call ourselves "catholic", "protestant", "born again", etc. and by the usage of these names think that we are right or saved.

Jesus knows that we are capable of much more. He knows that we are capable of having Him as our only Master and Father, and spread the good novel of the Kingdom in its simplicity and powerfulness, without need to create fancy titles to attribute to some "human masters" and this way creating a lot of "denominations" based on some "dogmas" that some "human teacher" create.

6 hours ago, Yowm said:

Have all the saints been disobedient to 2Pet 3:12  in the past 1900 years since His Coming has not yet occurred? I mean if it were possible to shorten the time, but that hasn't happened yet, so have all the saints, since Peter's admonision, been derelict on that point?

 And no, I don't pretend to know all the mini details of prophecy.

This is another great question dear @Yowm

You show to greatly understand the point, which is important regardless your disagreement.

A simple answer is that we really don't know the timeline and we don't need to know it.

Even if it seems slow to us, it would have been even slower without spreading the Gospel and the prayer for His Return.

Another thing to consider is this.

The first Christians, were aware of this prayer, it was natural to them.

They were greeting each other with the word Maranatha, come quickly Jesus.

You can find this even in other early Christian writings, like the Didache.

Then what happened?

Christianity corrupted itself by merging with Rome, and instead of looking "above" they started looking down and thinking that the Kingdom of Heaven was something to "build" on earth.

There aren't many traces of this prayer, after this terrible event, for centuries and centuries.

Theology started talking about irrelevant issues.

Then in the recent times, there seems to be an awakening, at least for some remnants.

You can read several pastors today talking about this topic, included Adrian Rogers, Jon Courson or Derek Prince.

And these are the time in which the last piece missing can come true:

"And this Gospel of the Kingsom will be preached in the whole world, as a testimony to all nations. And then the end will come"

These are the time in which from all over the world, "the Spirit and the Bride" can shout "come" (Revelation 22:17)

Sure, if humanity would have been more receptive God would have likely fixed an even earlier timeline.

Instead from the 3rd century we turned our sights to our idols, for the most.

But we can do our part today

In the worst case, it is at least a prayer that helps us keeping our eyes fixed on our blessed hope.

It is also great to prevent issues like preterism and social Gospel and prosperity Gospel

But I think it is noy only that, but even more powerful

1 hour ago, Yowm said:

Scripture interprets itself, and as we continue in it the pieces come together in a cohesive unity. No need to run around asking 99 others. I believe the passage I quoted you was quite clear and seems to put a damper on the theory that it is us who brings the coming of Jesus sooner by our various actions. 

I respect your point of view and kindly disagree

I think there are enough arguments in what we have written and on my side writing more will be redundant, but if I change my mind I'll add details.

Seems like the choice is between some very clear (at least in my opinion) verses and words like the verb "hastening" in 2Peter 3:12, or like Luke 18:1-8 (which would be completely useless if it wasn't also in part our responsibility), Versus some specific interpretations of a book, Revelation, that have been interpreted differently by almost everybody who reads it, and on which respectable Christians have several different angles of interpretation, not compatible between each others.

I guess for you is much more straightforward Revelation, and you believe you have a quite clear idea of the events that need to happen and that you have found the right key to interpret pages about lions, monsters, dozens of very precise and rounded numbers (like 1000, 144000, etc.), and I respect that.

God bless

7 minutes ago, Yowm said:

We know there are certain things that must happen first...

Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
(2Th 2:3-8)
 

no matter how much we try to 'hasten' the Day.

Good point, except, we have no certain interpretation on those.

I think there are at least 100 people writing regularly on this forum, and maybe 99 different views on the subject of the events that need to happen before the Day of the Lord.

Should I trust one of them, and miss my opportunity to speed His coming?

And all of this, after Jesus has been very clear in the Gospel and hasn't complicated anything?

I'll rather be simple, I don't understand those complex interpretations, let alone the whole pre/pri/post/past trib topics on which there are several hundred ramifications (is the antiChrist European? African? American? Canadian? Is the beast Rome? Bablyon? Etc. etc.)

I'll leave all of these question to the wise and learned, who seem to have hard time to agree, and I'll rather bother God like an old widow was bothering a certain judge, in a certain city, with a more concrete request: deliver us from the evil one!

Just now, angels4u said:

In My Father's House are Many Rooms
1Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe in Me as well. 2In My Father’shouse are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and welcome you into My presence, so that you also may be where I am.…John 14:2

While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once. ¹² He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return. ¹³ So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.^[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’

¹⁴ “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’

¹⁵ “He was made king, however, and returned home.

Luke 19

4 minutes ago, angels4u said:

Revelation 22:12-14

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 

❤️

22:17

The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, "Come!" Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.
 

On 11/14/2018 at 11:20 AM, Yowm said:

Quicker? Quicker than what? Since we don't know the original day or hour how will we know it is 'quicker'?

Instead, 'Lord come quickly' is what I read.

Great question, thank you!

We know from Scripture that we can hasten the day of the Lord, speed up His coming:

2 Peter 3:12

"Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives ¹² as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming."

Therefore, the answer to the question "quicker with respect to what?" is "quicker with  respect to when it would have been fixed by God if some of His elects wouldn't have hastened it."

Therefore, whoever doesn't hasten the Day of the Lord, slows it down, by missing his opportunity to speed it up.

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Now a comment not referred to you @Yowm, but to whomever would read this with lacking some elementary basics of theology. I want to specify that God foreknowledge doesn't by any mean decrease our role in speeding up His coming.

If someone really wants to try to disprove 2Peter 3:12 with some elementary theological errors, and he doesn't trust the Scriptures alone, then and only in that case such person should maybe read about what Boethius said about foreknowledge and free will. This only if someone wants to dig in complex reasoning, which has actually nothing to do with the simplicity of the Scriptures which states that as always, in the History of salvation, God wants men to cooperate with Him. That with our stubborness we can slow down His plan (see God's people in the desert), or with our repentance and cooperation we can speed it up.

Again, your question @Yowm was excellent, by specifying what I just said here above I'd like to prevent some boring and misleading conversations (like people contradicting themselves by saying that we play "no role" on the Day of the Lord because God knew the future and the day is fixed, but then according to them we have absolutely a role in speed up for instance the healing of a disease with a prayer. Such people are able to contradict themselves in the same sentence, so I'm trying to prevent this to happening).

Amen!

Maranatha! Come quickly, Lord!

@turtletwo @SelahSong @PromisesPromises!

Amen! ❤️

Maranatha

Imagine there is a person on a desert Island, who doesn't know anything about God.

You can send him only one book from the Bible. (picking any book from Genesis to Revelation)

Which one do you choose? Why?

And if you can choose 2 books, which ones?

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(if this question seems completely "abstract" to you, remember that people time is limited, and sometimes it's hard to catch people attention in this super busy world for even an hour per week, therefore sometimes suggesting a reading it's like reaching people on a desert island)

11 hours ago, PromisesPromises! said:

They (and we) cry out for justice.  As believers, we want all the wrong things in this world to be made right, and we have faith that this will happen.  John actually foresaw justice restored in The Revelation and testified to us about it.  Can we hasten the time?  I am honestly not sure.

Thank you @SelahSong , @Adstar , @Eliptic01 , @pinacled for your great answers.

Thank you @PromisesPromises! for the great considerations!
I'll address this last one that you posted.

@PromisesPromises!: "Can we hasten the time?"

Answer from 2 Peter 3:12:

 "Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives ¹² as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming." (speed up or hastening depending on the translation)

Also, remember that many times God's people slowed down His plan with their stubbornness/worldliness. Remember the Israelites in the desert, when they didn't trust God and they had to wait 40 years. If they had trust Him, they'd have let Him hastening His timeline.

All over the Old Testament and the New Testament, our God is a God who wants a cooperation with humanity. He could do everything by Himself but He chooses not to, He wants our participation, as it is explained in parables like the Lost Son (Luke 15:11-32). In that parable, the Father doesn't force his will on the son, but as long as the son doesn't repent and is happy to be in a foreign land ("my Kingdom is not of this world"), without him, he lets him do it. He doesn't force His will on him.

So as long as we, even the Christians, keep focusing on this earth and we focus all our prayers on this earth (like the pagans have been doing for thousand years till now), we are not praying in the Spirit of  Luke 18:1-8, the Lord prayer, or Revelation 22:17 and 22:20, and we are actually slowing down God's plan, by not hastening our sound "response" to His desire of giving us New Heavens and New Earth.

Sounds very similar to what happens in the Parable of the Wedding Banquet as well, doesn't it? (Matthew 22:1-13). In that Parable, the King says "everything is now ready", but people come back to their business or their family plans.

If these are not enough Scriptural sources, let me know, and I will provide others as well as the opinion of some "preachers" on this like Adrian Rogers, Darek Prince or Jon Courson.

Luke 18:1-8

Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. ² He said: “In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared what people thought. ³ And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’

⁴ “For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care what people think, ⁵ yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually come and attack me!’”

⁶ And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. ⁷ And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? ⁸ I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”

Now the question is: what are the chosen ones praying day and night for?

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Hypothesis 1: "they are praying for a more just political system"

Refutation: Most of the prayers of some Christians seems to be going in this direction. Is this what the parable is teaching to pray for? If it was, it would have been much clearer if it concluded as "when the Son of Man will fix the political system, will He find faith on earth?"

But this is not how the parable ends.

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Hypothesis 2: "they are praying for a prosperous life on earth, like Job after the temptations"

Refutation: If it was the case, the parable would have concluded as "when the Son of man will give people an abundant life on earth, will He find faith on earth?"

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Hypothesis 3: "they are praying for the Son of Man to come quicker"

Confirmation: well that's exactly what the conclusion of the Parable seems to teach. Moreover, this seems completely in line with the only prayer taught directly by Jesus, the Lord prayer, plus various verses (Revelation 22:17, 22:20, 2Peter 3:12).

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Interestingly enough, the choice of a "widow" can also be seen as a reference to the Bride of Christ, whose Bridegroom has been taken away, Scripturally:

"Jesus answered, "How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast." (Matthew 9:15)

"Then he said to his disciples, "The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it." (Luke 17:22)

Thanks for reading. Feel free to share your considerations/agreements/disagreements/Scriptures on the topic.

God bless. Maranatha

On 11/2/2018 at 6:48 PM, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

After 11 years with the same company, I was fired on Halloween.  So at 69 years age, I will be looking for at least a part-time job either engineering or something completely different.  When I read about ayin jade's problems, mine seem so insignificant.

I'm sorry, I've read this and the following posts and it sounds awful the way they treated you.

Seems like all the users and especially @*Pumpkin* have been given some good advices, we are with you in prayer.

Thank @Willa, verses on spot!

Thank you @*Pumpkin*! (Such an awesome, funny name)

1 hour ago, *Pumpkin* said:

I guess my major contention with this prosperity "Gospel" is that it is self-centered and all about what God can do for them, rather than what can I do for God?

This is definitely part of the issue, I totally agree. This is one part of the equation

I' d like to hear your opinion also on the other aspect. The reason why it is bad to be worldly as you point out is beacause this world has been corrupted by the fall. Therefore loving it means love something that fell away from God' s will

That is also why God doesn't intervene on fixing all the issues, otherwise this creation would already be His Kingdom, the new Heaven and Earth.

When we fail to teach this and people see this reality completely as under God' s will, attributing to God all sort of disasters, then unfortunately it is natural for them to expect always the best on this earth if they are "good Christians"and to become even more attached to the world.

Instead if we talk more about how fallen is this creation, probably people would be less prone to become worldly and will think more about Heaven, starting to desire the Lord to come sooner.

What do you think?

Have you heard sentences like:

- "we have been blessed with this great house and family"

- "pray and your disease will go away"

- "The reason why bad things happened to him/her is because he/she let the devil enter his/her heart"

More often than not, in Christian churches, daily events are classified as either the direct intervention of Jesus or the Devil.

In doing this, it seems like we are forgetting a "little" detail: the whole creation has been corrupted by the fall (Romans 8:22-24), and things will only be restored with the New Heavens and New Earth.

Until then, instead of attributing everything directly to God, we could probably teach more sound doctrines.

A better understanding of the fall and of its consequences on this creation, can lead us to a better understanding of the Gospel of the Kingdom, and can turn our prayers from our worldly desires (Matthew 6:7, Matthew 6:25-34), to our blessed desire of the Return of the Lord.

Then more mouths will pronounce with a greater awareness the blessed prayer: "Even so, come Lord Jesus. Thy Kingdom come"

What do you think?

On 10/18/2018 at 9:01 PM, HeWillCome2040 said:

Many people quote different verses of the Bible to claim we cannot know the Day and Hour of His Return.  But the Truth is we can know and the Bible doesn't teach that we can't know.  Many of the verses quoted to claim that we can't know - are misunderstood scriptures.   I know there will be those in here that will quote from Matthew 24.  We can deal with each scriptures and shed light on what they really say.

Just know YOU CAN KNOW.

 

No.

We can NOT know the time nor the hour.

But we can do something more useful, which is hastening His coming.

"Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!" 2Peter 3:12

Dear @Chrisy

It is very wise and kind from you to share these thoughts.

As other people said here, everyone have had these thoughts at some point/points in time.

Not everyone have faced them though, so some Christians aren't looking forward to that day (2Peter 3:12) because they have this fear in their subconscious.

Instead, you are facing this fear and this is honorable.

The other users had already great suggestions. The only one I add is to read the Gospel frequently. Sometimes our fear comes from not knowing, but a frequent relationship with Jesus words fills us with the Spirit and blows fear away.

To get rid of evil, the best way is not staring at evil and trying to avoid it, but staring at what is good!

God bless

On 10/10/2017 at 12:47 AM, Fidei Defensor said:

In 22 Days the 500th Anniversary of Protestant Reformation will happen! 

Here is some information on Luther and His beliefs: 

"Luther was not a systematic theologian, trading in logical definitions or philosophical consistency. The systematizers  who followed his wake  picked out two key principles in his thought, Sole Fide and Sola Scripture: "Faith alone" and "Scripture alone." But this risks missing the point. Luther's theology was not a doctrine; it was a love affair. Consuming love for God has been part of Christian experience since the beginning, put Luther's passion had a reckless extravagance that set it apart, and which down Protestantism History. He pursued His love for God with blithe disregard for the bounds set by church and tradition. It was intense, desolating, intoxicating passion, sparked by his life-upending glimpse of God's incomprehensible , terrible, beautiful, and beautiful love for him. Like any lover, he found it incredible that his beloved should love him, unworthy as he was. And yet he discovered over the long years of prayer and study, that God loved him wildly, irresponsibly, and beyond all reason. God, in Christ, had laid down his life for him. This was not as the medieval's subtle theology had taught, a transaction, or a process by which believers to do whatever was in their power to pursue holiness. It was a sheer gift, all that mattered was accepting it. This talk of grace and free forgiveness was dangerous. If grace is free, and all we need do is believe, surely that would lead to moral anarchy? The fact that free forgiveness can look like a license to sin has plagued Protestantism for centuries. But for Luther, to even ask this question was blockheaded. What kind of lover needs rules about how to love? What kind of lover has to be bribed or threatened into loving? God loves us unreservedly. If we recognize that love, we love him unreservedly in return. 

Luther's breakthrough a dazzling, corrosive, simplicity to it. The power of those two principles, "faith alone," and "Scripture alone," lay in the word "alone." There is nothing and no one else other than God incarnate in Jesus Christ worth attending to. Being a Christian means throwing yourself abjectly, unreservedly, on Christ's mercy. Living the Christian life is to live Christ's Life-that is, abandoning all security and worldly ambitions to follow Him "through penalties, deaths, and hell." It is only then that we may find peace. That ravishing paradox is at heart of Protestantism." (The Protestants, Alec Ryrie, pages 20-21). 

Just read this pearl, thanks for sharing it!

2 hours ago, Yowm said:

I hear ya but that understandably gets downplayed during a hot Presidential race or a Supreme Court pick. After all, it involves the freedoms to disseminate the Gospel. But yes, God is ultimately in control.

Thanks @Yowm, I wasn't thinking about that actually, this is something I've noticed in years and all over the places (different nations).

One thing is to participate in politics, which is good (I edited my question specifying it), another thing is put our hope in events/rulers of the world, when Jesus never said that justice will reign on this earth until His return, quite the contrary.

1 hour ago, Neighbor said:

Does not the unfolding of what Has been prophesized throughout the word of God play out in politics?

@Neighbor Yes, exactly as prophesied by Jesus (Matthew 24) things are getting worse and worse. We just came out from 2 world wars and we still have dictatorships all over. You are totally right, everything predicted by Jesus about this world is happening.

"Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved."

11 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

We all know our hope and peace is the promise of Christ Jesus return, and our trust and faith in Him. A person would be hard pressed to find just 'one year' in the last 2,000 years where there wasn't conflict or war somewhere on the planet. The planet will not see peace until Christ's Kingdom in the millennium.  

11 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

What am I looking and waiting for??? That trumpet, that shout from above in the clouds saying, "Dennis, come up here". The fastest elevator ride up in history with a glorified body in a twinkling of an eye.  

@Dennis1209 and @Betha This is exactly the spirit that this post wants to emphasize.

Thanks all for enriching the conversation.

God bless. Maranatha

It recently seems like the main hope for a lot of Christians is politics.

I don't think it was the same for the first Christian, whose primary hope was Christ Return and who were greeting each other with the word "Maranatha", which means "come quickly Jesus".

If the hope of the first Christians for the world were in politics, they would get quickly discouraged, since people like Nero existed from since then, and for 2 thousands years we haven't yet seen a truly just government, nor does it seems it's gonna happen if we read Matthew 24.

So the question is were is our hope? What do you pray for? What do you talk more about with fellow Christians?

"However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." (Luke 10:20)

PS

Clarification: This post is not an invitation to not care about politics. It is good to be informed and participate in politics. This post is about not putting our hopes in politics or human rulers, since Matthew 24 shows us how things will get worse and worse until his return.