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When the whole world is under Sharia, they will be peaceful unless they fight between Suni &Shia.

We should be so dedicated with the gospel.

I happen to think that the simple English definition of the word believe is not enough to get a person saved. One can believe Jesus is who he says he is and not submit to his lordship. I have several Baptist brothers and sisters that use this to say believe is all it takes. If you use the will (and some translations say shall) there is nothing else you have to do. With the word should (literal translation is might not) and relates that there is more to it than just believing. It takes action on our part and that goes against works not saving a person, so they fight it tooth and toenail. I don't use Bibles that use the word will/shall, but in discussing it, for new people or seekers it makes them not trust the Bible at all. This whole thread is putting questions of Bible reliability in the minds of new Christians and seekers. But I guess it does need to be discussed.

My main problem with most late translations is shown here:: When they change should to will it changes things.

The one I have found closest is the 1972 published NASB. Later publications not. Second choice is ESV, but my study Bible is a Biblesoft computer program with interlinear with the Textus Receptus and Nestlé manuscripts and Strong's definitions and 1 click away from 2 concordances and six bible helps. One click from 22 translations and maps. And a program to read it to me .

But thatis what many people will think. Technically it is what he is saying.

So we can't trust the Bible.

It usually takes three or so years. I don't know if it goes along with becoming parents. Next steps is learning how to fly, then hunt for themselves.

anyone who understands Islam should know this is their agenda.

So, are you saying that Jesus let the translators of the English Bible tell us something wrong with the name Jesus? If that's so, what else can't I trust to be ok?

I didn't see what you wrote when I wrote to you, so you should keep Alive's message to heart. BTW if you are a born again Christian with the Holy Spirit dwelling within you, technically you are a "we/they". Just for the record. And they do "BTW" fit into this discussion of the names of things we call each other. Jesus is a we/they for he is an essence of three and I have joined the group.

I think we should just let it go. I'm 78 and been married 55 years. You can't possibly offend me. Not sure what was said, but I'm not concerned about it. If it matters, I'll pm it to you, and you can decide for yourself. I just try not to offend folks here.

You still didn't answer my question. So I'm done. Technically he is the Old Testament God of Israel, and if you are not going to call him Jesus like everyone else, you should call him Yahweh for that is truly who he is. I do not think it is part of salvation. I do think prayers to Jesus and worship to Jesus is just as acceptable as others.

I would think that upsets the devil a lot.

My gender pronoun is considered dirty to some people, so I can't use it here. He/Him is the first two out of three.