mizzdy

Entitlement programs only keep those on them at the mercy of whose giving the money out. I agree its a waste and a burden on those receiving them. Talk about keeping people down and under the thumb of the govts!

There are no commandments to own slaves only law regulating it, where are the curses and commandments legalizing slavery? That is not how God ordained things, He did set standards and used those type of relationships to show right and wrong, to show His mercy and grace. Its funny I have never had any black, white, red or purple person say they could not believe in God because those in the bible had slaves, most come to understand the freedom in Him. Man is corrupt beyond meaure theres no denying that, I guess I dont understand the thread. shalom, Mizz

Yes sir sure can! Sad state of affairs isnt it. Just imagine how God felt when they asked for a judge, then a king instead of keeping to His ways. God sets up righteous priests, judges and kings, when they reign by His words the people prospered yet we are so far removed from any righteous anything in our leaders its no wonder we are all flailing about. Come Yehsua come!

God set the calendar at creation, He then went on to set the times and season, planting and harvest and its based on the lunar cycle as well as seeing a solar cycle within scriptures also. Once there was a people He taught them by using His feasts as that agricultural calendar and showed them through that all kinds of wonderful stuff to come. I have a study on this somewhere will try and dig it out for you. If I forget just remind me! shalom, Mizz

I am against the death penalty only because there is the slightest possibility in many cases that you have the wrong person . I find the issue according to the bible to be a bit confusing ..on one hand we have what the OT says then we have the NT one thing i know for sure it is not a sin for a government to abolish it .in favor of life imprisonment Our justice system is in no way like what God is going to do, life outside of Gods light to me is worse than what man can do. The OT and the NT are a continuation of the same book, God is going to come with wrath just as He promised. The difference between our justice system and His is simply that He is righteous and man is corrupt.

Are you talking about the covenant made with the House of Israel & The House of Judah? hmmm...must be since that is the only "new" covenant in the book. Not sure if you realize this...but neither Jesus nor the Prophets spoke a word of English. The word they spoke would be transliterated as "brith hadashah" The Hebrew word used in Jer 31:31 for "new" covenant is not hadashah, but chadash, which means "new," not "newer." Nor am I authorized by the Word of God to speculate on what "the word they spoke would be," in whatever language. However, even your speculation does not support "newer." The Holy Spirit authored the NT in Greek, and I am to understand it as it is written in Greek. The English translations of today are fully accurate to the Greek. Everywhere in the Greek, it is called a new covenant, in conformity with chadash, which does not mean a "newer" covenant. Please do not alter the pure Word of God as it was given by the Holy Spirit in Greek, or Hebrew. For a Biblical understanding of the relation of the Sinaitic old covenant to the covenant of Abraham and the new covenant of Christ (Heb 9:15, 12:24, 8:6), see THIS. Are you sure about that? The root of the word new in Jer. 31:31 is this, H2318 חדשׁ châdash khaw-dash' A primitive root; to be new; causatively to rebuild: - renew, repair. Over time God renewed His covenant with His people, built upon the previous, thus 'renewing' it not starting over or making a brand spanking new anything. In the greek 'new' in Heb. 8 shows also its not brand new, G2537 καινός kainos kahee-nos' Of uncertain affinity; new (especially in freshness; while G3501 is properly so with respect to age): - new. And the root of that word is, G3501 νέος, νεώτερος neos neōteros neh'-os, neh-o'-ter-os A primary word, including the comparative (second form); “new”, that is, (of persons) youthful, or (of things) fresh; figuratively regenerate: - new, young. Not a new covenant but one renewed with His people confirmed and set with His blood this time instead of lambs and goats. No one altering the word, this is what God has promised us, that the gentiles would be included within the covenant He made with Judah and Israel, that is and has always been His promise to us.

The penalty for sin is death, final death with no possible resurrection Messiah took that upon Himself we now are free from that final death sentence that hung over our heads. Yeshua is the Word, He is the one who gave us His laws, He came and gave us the perfect example of how we can rightly walk in His commandments but didnt leave it at that oh no! He knew we are flesh so He sent the Spirit to help us walk out His ways. The scripture says that He did not come to abolish but to fulfull, some take that He did everything for us so we dont have to obey anything but love people, I find that to be out of charactor for God and Yeshua. We are having His Torah, His instructions written on our hearts as we mature in Him He gives brings us into fuller understandings of it all, if thats done away with whats is being written on our hearts? And frankly if anything Yeshua made following Him a bit harder, taking the commandment to not commit adultery but if we even lust in our hearts we are falling down on our jobs to keep our hearts upon Him. Thankfully He loves us so much that when we do fail and we always do in some ways He is quick to forgive us. If Israel, if we had followed His righteous ways there would be no need to fight and destroy, the lessons taught on how to rid ourselves from doing those things are firmly rooted in His instructions. Man is corrupt His ways are not, I certainly do look forward to living under a righteous holy King one day where all are of one mind, of one accord! shalom, Mizz

Well; Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. "equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection" - Would this indicate that the saints' resurrected bodies are equal unto the angels? - Or would this passage indicate that resurrected saints are equal unto the angels in the children of God and dieing and marrying aspects. - A note to make: it says: "for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection." - Could the "and" be relating the "equal unto the angels" to the "children of God" (so that saints are equal unto the angels only in the children of God and dieing and marrying aspects) or could the "and" be simply stating another truth, and thus, separating the two phrases (so that the saints are equal unto the angels of God in every way)? - Will saints have an equal body to the angels... - Do angels have "bodies"...... - If God makes his angels spirits (Psalm 104:4), and - spirits have not flesh and bones (Luke 24:37-39) as the Lord had (which is also our resurrected spiritual body - 1 Corinthians 15:44) --- indicating that angels which are spirits do not have a spiritual body... - Then resurrected saints would not have bodies equal unto the angels... - If this is true, Luke 20:35-36 must mean that the resurrected saints are only equal to the angels in the children of God and dieing and marrying aspects. - The passage that needs explaining then is 1 Corinthians 15:40--- 1 Corinthians 15:35-47 1Cor 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 1Cor 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 1Cor 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 1Cor 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 1Cor 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 1Cor 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. ___________________________________________________ Verse 40. The Greek word translated to English "celestial" comes from the same word used in Hebrews 11:12 "...the stars of the sky in multitude..." (indicating visible heavens...) (but in Hebrew... there is the signification that heaven is: the "holy habitation" of the LORD - Deuteronomy 26:15, and it is asked that the LORD would "look down from" His "holy habitation") - It is stated that "no man hath seen the Father" John 6:46 - Would verse 40 indicate that angels have celestial bodies? - (Perhaps there is a difference between celestial and spiritual bodies...) ___________________________________________________ 1Cor 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 1Cor 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 1Cor 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 1Cor 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1Cor 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1Cor 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 1Cor 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. This is exactly what I asked you not to do, theres no answer here just more speculation on your part taken from walls of scriptures unrelated to one another that you seem to try and show that we are all going to be or are angels. The meaning of each of those 'angel' words are not what you want them to be, God never once tells us nor anywhere in scriptures do we find we will be changed to or taken back to angel form, period. Threads closed.

Jesus is Lord and, 1 Timothy 3:16 indicates that God was manifest in the flesh... John 10:30 indicates that Jesus and His Father are one. Ephesians, Please with the walls of scriptures and stuff intertwinned its very hard to see any kind of point, answer, positions you truly take, its as if your hiding behind scriptures not really addressing questions nor showing us all what you really mean by your posts. Who is Yeshua to you? Yes I agree He is Lord, yes He is God in the flesh, and they are echad yet you did not say He was your Lord, do you bow to Him, do you claim Him as your Savior? shalom, Mizz

Just a bit of info, that is a rabbinical ideaology, one thats been imprinted on the minds of Jews for so many generations it hard to see where it started. Theres a Karaite Jew, one that does not follow the oral Torah, that has an excellent vid out on the name of YHWH, he says the name with awe and reverance and does not think its wrong. Nor does Yah think its wrong when we say His name either!

Respectfully one only need ears to hear words of poison and we do not choose to have ears. I recall they were innocent in the Garden and would have had no knowledge of guile. I think we are using terms differently for I see only a will necessary to make a choice. A freewill is one that would be able to choose freely without restraint or compulsion. As we know sin is a compulsion or desire of the flesh and it wars with the Spirit. Moreover Satan is the Father of it not God. Never did God give us the disability to disobey Him, Satan did that. Scripture also states that Satan sinned because of vanity not freewill. I take it that he counted his many attributes as his own rather than being thankful to God, not recognizing that God had given him all that he had. God gave us all freewill, that is the ability to choose, choose one path or the other, it was the same for Adam and Eve. Adam choose to listen to another word over Gods, freewill. It seems at least to me that both Eve and Adam were familiar with this serpent, Eve did not seem nor do the way its written indicate she was afraid or worried about the serpent in the garden. In that we see freewill, free to say yes to the serpent and no to God, we are not told if they were going to be aware of the dire consequences of their actions though. Yet at the same time God spoke to Adam and gave Him a strict law not to eat of that tree and like a silly child disobeyed and sin entered into mankind through that. Yes sin is rampant within our fleshly bodies but when we accept Him we are given the gift of the Spirit that helps us war with the flesh and spirit where He teaches us to overcome those fleshly desires and walk according to His ways. That is freewill, just like when we learn to obey our parents we often get rewarded so does our Elohim, He blesses our lives in so many ways. shalom, Mizz

Amen! Romans 12:17-21 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. What we humans think of venegeance is nothing how God sees it all. God is not in the 'murder' business He isnt going to go off punishing people who have harmed us. God will come one day and all will stand for their own actions, as we all must stand each day and take responsiblity for what we have done or did not do. This 'venegeance' is punishment, He is going to come again and punish the wicked, He refines us, or reprimands us when we fall off the path also doesn't He? So yes God will come, its His job to jugde, to correct, to refine and to punish and of that we have full confidence in. shalom, Mizz

I am opening this thread, for now. Ephesians, There have been members asking direct questions of you that need to be answered but for me I would like direct, without walls of scriptures, who is Yeshua (Jesus) to you? Is it your opinion that when we die and are changed that we become angels? Lets start with those first will we? shalom, Mizzdy

Just curious are you a Gerald Flurry fan? No not particularly, are you? No not a fan of the offshoots of Armstrongs churches, my husband grew up in Armstrongs church. Armstrong and the rest feel they are 'the church of God' and all must join to it, they do not believe we are all Israel but Ephraim and Manneseh, that whole brit/Israel thing and I don't. Thy are also now speaking firmly out against any other groups that keep the Sabbath as 'cults' kinda funny if you ask me. I am Messianic. shalom, Mizz you certainly do not owe me any explaination, Im just curious after reading some of your post. Please do not take offence for my question. do you agree with this site http://www.shema.com/messianic_judaism.php Thanks I'm not Jewish. I do keep the Sabbath, I also celebrate His feasts. Messianic is simply a title really, we all are Messianics, awaiting His return, its my positition that we are all Israel, all who come to Him in faith and call upon His name for salvation. I wasn't taken any offensive at all just clarifying, often I get lumped into the whole brit/am two house only kinda stuff even by some here. shalom, Mizz

This is the reason threads get shut down, these are the reasons people start to get upset, when one positition is taken as the correct and everyone needs to frame their posts accordingly. Persons such as that never see they are wrong, never see the huge badge of pride they wear over their hearts. By your own words it is your "my" presentation, one you feel you hold to the correct understandings and not one person can show you otherwise. It does not matter what anyone writes your theological postition is the avenue in which we all must swim.

Gary, The Bible is the best selling book to ever be written, but it´s message is not popular. The problem springs from this New Covenant idea. There is no ¨New¨ covenant of salvation. Abraham was saved by grace and so is anyone else. The, so called, Mosaic Law was the teacher to the Jew just as it is today to the Christian, that we, all, recognise our sins. The expression of the Covenant with man has changed but the truth of it has and will never change. Even Adam and his children of the first generation are saved, only, by grace. I agree with you whole heartily that salvation has always been by grace through faith but it was God himself who said that he was going to make a new covenant. It isn't me you disagree with if you think there isn't a new covenant. They are both 'grace' covenants that require 'faith' for salvation. The details of each were slightly different. Peace unto you in Christ our King, Gary Can you give me the scriptures for your position instead of just accusing me of disagreeing with God? This works best if we do not fight. Oh, please let me! New Covenant idea is from Jesus - "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. . ." (Lk 22:20) 1Co 11:23-25 - "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you. . .he took the cup saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in my blood.' " Heb 8:8, 13 - " 'The time is coming, declares the Lord when I will make a new covenant'. . .By calling this covenant new, he has made the first one (Mosaic) obsolete." The Word of God in Heb makes clear exactly what is meant by new covenant, that is is not a continuation of the old in the form of a "newer" covenant, but that the new covenant negates the Mosaic covenant, making it obsolete. I know that you are to be respected because f your position as mod here and by now you shoulod have learned that I seek to cause others to study and to not be Pew Whales skirting the edge of Hell. What you just signaled with this is not only rude it is very detremental to the cause o9f Christ. With the ¨oh, let me,¨ Satan´s pride just zoomed! Who are you directing this too Bill? The mods are in the two shades of purple, I don't see any mod in your post here. shalom, Mizz

Just curious are you a Gerald Flurry fan? No not particularly, are you? No not a fan of the offshoots of Armstrongs churches, my husband grew up in Armstrongs church. Armstrong and the rest feel they are 'the church of God' and all must join to it, they do not believe we are all Israel but Ephraim and Manneseh, that whole brit/Israel thing and I don't. Thy are also now speaking firmly out against any other groups that keep the Sabbath as 'cults' kinda funny if you ask me. I am Messianic. shalom, Mizz

Manhy of those same coins you refer to as "junk" were around during Jesus time and they circulated throughout the entire Roman empire, Including Jerusalem. That is not my term but one the sellers use.

I do agree with Gary here, love him. You do not have to condone nor condemn his choices nor do you need to permit that choice in your home. We are to love the sinners while praying for them to come to Him, we can have family meals, we can share laughter with them but we should always stand up for what He says is true and right. I have dealt with this myself so I know a bit about what your feeling and going through, its hard not to stand up and scream how wrong it is in His eyes, its hard not to want that person to change and come to know our Creator. Just accept that your sibling is lost and confused, lost in their sins. shalom, Mizz

Ervin, Since you have stated you are a seeker I have changed your status to show that status when you have decided to follow Messiah and accept Him I will happily and joyfully change your status to believer. I do not accept that all religions or most contain truth of God, islam claims to be part of the Abrahamic faith yet deny the deity and Messiahship of Yeshua, (Jesus), most of the other so called religions make no claims to a Creator let alone a sovereign God. The bible is what holds His truths no other book has shown itself to be true over and over again, it contains all of what God wishes to show us and learn from. I do not belong to any denominiation, I am what most call Messianic, I attend a small fellowship and just love it! I dislike all those big megachurches since I think the pastor should know his flock but everyone must decide for themselves. I would suggest you find a small nondenominational church, start reading the bible and pray to God for guideance for your life. We are here to help in any way we can. shalom, Mizz

Hi. I'm sorry but this is not about Arizona. I joined yesterday and it seems I cannot do anything on the forum except post in certain forums. Someone on here "Friended" me and sent me a private msg. I try to read his msg: [#10226] You are not allowed to use the private messaging system. I try to click his name to contact him that way: [#10245] You are not permitted to view member profiles. I read the forum help file...didn't see anything that helped. I click the link that says "Contact the forums administrator": it opens an email program to send an email to @ (but no recipient). I decide to ask about this in General Discussion: You Cannot Start a New Topic I try to directly contact George or Isaiah 6:8...[#10245] You are not permitted to view member profiles. I did a search for "Error"...nothing relevant comes up. I did a search for "Error messages"... Flood control is enabled. Please wait at least 20 seconds before attempting to search again grrrrrr So if ANYONE could please pass this info on to the forums administrators I would appreciate it. Hi Johnny, The reason you were having troubles is that you need 5 posts to get to see profiles and all that stuff, you now have 6 posts freeing you to posts in the inner court as well as pm's and profiles. shalom, Mizz

My feelings for them are no different than my feelings for all unbelievers. However, I have not been given to be an evangelist, I have been given to another service in the people of God (Eph 4:11), and a heart for another group. Furthermore, he gave some people as emissaries, some as prophets, some as proclaimers of the Good News, and some as shepherds and teachers. Eph. 4:11 How do you witness to our brothers? How would you talk to a Jewish person, would you suggest they need to convert to christianity? would you tell them they were responsible for the 'murder' of Messiah? I already know that you believe you are called to be a teacher, so how would you 'teach' a Jew about Messiah? I do not teach unbelievers. Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age." Thank you Fez you beat me too it. Eleanor then by your own admission it is your goal here to teach us all your interpertation of the plainess of the scriptures then, which is something we should not rest on period. Are you aware that pre-christian rabbis and those faithful to the coming Messiah believed that Messiah could and would come in the flesh that they did believe that YHWH Himself would wrap Himself in a dirt suit and come for our salvation? That is true, it wasnt until 'christians' started changing the true Word of YHWH that the rabbis started really changing up theirs to show that YHWH would never come in the flesh. We are called to proclaim Him to everyone deciding not to 'teach' the unbelievers is to go against what He has told us to do.

If Adam and Eve did not have free will then they could not have chosen to listen to anothers voice, the advesaries. They were created with freewill, the angels have freewill otherwise Lucifer would not have been able to do what he did. shalom, Mizz

Those things we see in the sky are not normal 'jet trails' they are what we call chemtrails. A normal jets engines vapor trail will dissipate after a set time the trails we have left over our heads do not do that and they have been analyzed showing barium and other such things. Those things are not in jet fuel normally. I live in Las Vegas we have one of the busiest airports in the country and almost each and every day our skies are covered with these trails.

Do we not expect our own Messiah to come with the full wrath of God at His return? I would have done the same thing! I was more than a willful daughter and raise one just like me. I know what its like to stand on ones promises, as much as it grieves a parent to do something you know is going to hurt and cause yet more backlash as a parent you better stand on your word. If we do not teach our children to do so then how can they take Him at His Word? Actions produce consequences and words mean things. Edited to add, this father showed a lot of control, it made for the most dramatic of lessons one she should not fail to learn. And frankly I know at least one father that would not have been so nice but lost control and beat the kid, which is what Proverbs lessons are trying to teach, its the condition of the heart/will. shalom, Mizz