Faith vs Science

[ParanoidAndroid]

I was just reading through these boards, and I've only just really noticed that the title of this section is "Faith vs Science". I had seen it before, but it's only occurred to me that the "vs" in that Board Section may not necessarily be necessary. By setting Faith and Science up as adversaries, it appears (at least on the surface) that we are viewing them as mutually exclusive concepts that cannot coexist in the heart of a single believer/non-believer.

As I see it, Science deals with our empirical world - what can be observed, and what can be guessed at by those observations. Issues of Faith, God, miracles, and such, cannot be addressed by science. Their very nature disqualifies them from being dealt with. Faith, on the other hand, deals with the spiritual observations of our world. These are not necessarily things we can see, feel, touch, taste, smell. They are truths that we believe based on our world views and holy texts. For us Christians, we believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God. Science cannot tell us whether it is our not, because science does not ask that question. History cannot tell us whether the Bible is inerrant or not, because historians do not deal with innerrancy either.

For lack of a better breakdown, science deals with the "HOW" of this creation. Faith deals with the "WHO" of creation, and the "WHY". They are not enemies to be set up as a Streetfight ("vs"). They are both vehicles which we can explore our world, both equally important to a full understanding of our existence. They both simply ask different questions and arrive at those different answers through different criteria. Needless to say, I don't see anything that requires Faith to be set up in opposition to Science (or vice versa).

Just a few thoughts. Any feedback or comments from others would be appreciated

~ Regards, PA

[Botz]

Hi PA...I entirely agree with your premise on the issue of Faith vs Science.

I had noticed it some time ago...it is a bit like saying History vs Geography, or Latin vs Physics.

It would probably be better to have...Faith vs Unbelief; or Creation Science vs Secular Science.

[Hunterpoet]

I think it's pretty much the science folks that have created the opposition.

[Paul 84]

Well Said ParanoidAndroid. I'm also tired of hearing Faith vs. Science. Especially since the science they are talking about is an unproven theory-evolution.

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called." (I Timothy 6:20)

Boltz I really like the creation science vs. secular science, sounds like you may have listen Dr. Kent Hovind.

[artsylady]

I think it should be renamed "Creation Versus Evolution" or what Botz said.

[artsylady]

Faith vs Unbelief

I dont' think it should be renamed to this, because both sides have faith. And, it requires a lot more faith to belief that evolution occurred the way they said it did.

[Botz]

Well Said ParanoidAndroid. I'm also tired of hearing Faith vs. Science. Especially since the science they are talking about is an unproven theory-evolution.

"O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called." (I Timothy 6:20)

Boltz I really like the creation science vs. secular science, sounds like you may have listen Dr. Kent Hovind.

Hi Paul...never heard of the guy, but will now.

[Paul 84]

AMEN!

Artsylady you are so right evolution takes a lot more faith than those of us who believe God created the Heavens and Earth.

[Guest]

The LORD Looked

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge.

Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.

Psalms 14

For lack of a better breakdown, science deals with the "HOW" of this creation. Faith deals with the "WHO" of creation, and the "WHY".

Great Thread Dear Brother

Wonderful Questions

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Another Take On Science

Science Deals With The Exploration Of Tiny Bits And Pieces Of God's Creation Through Observation, Careful Measurements And Repeatable Tests.

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

Romans 1:20

And Because Not All Science Is Science,

"Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Romans 1:25

Faith vs. Science Is A Proper Place For Man's Rebellion To Meet God's Holy Word.

"But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."

2 Corinthians 4:4

Another Take On Faith

Whereas Faith Deals With The HOW Of Creation

"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him."

Colossians 1:15-16

The Why Of Creation

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

Revelation 4:11

The WHO Of Creation

"And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ."

Ephesians. 3:9

And The Creation Yet To Come

"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy."

Isaiah 65:17-18

And The Answer To HOW WHO And WHY Is JESUS!

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Some Folk Still Chant "Science" As They Build Fantasy Castles

Inviting Others To Move In And Leave The LORD

Thinking To Hid From The Truth

From The Sight Of God

" For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

And Though They Once Heard Of The Truth

"Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:"

John 11:25

They're Still Running From He Who Loved

"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God."

Hebrews 12:2

And Still Calls, Come Sinner Come

"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."

Revelation 22:16-17

[oldzimm]

I just joined this forum, and reading about faith vs science is leading me to ponder this question.

In the bible it is written God created the heavens and the earth, it says little on how he created them. Could it be science might be finding the tools that God used in creating heaven and earth?