The Amish

[Gerioke]

Hi.

I mean no disrespect to the Amish bretheren but to be under the gun like what has been said seems wrong?;

"It is quite a process to become one if you were not born into it. They spent several years on their farm under a microscope by the church to make sure they were real in their faith." [/quopte].

Jesus never required any such scrutiniy for entry into His Eternal Life?

What about the repentant sinner next to Jesus?

"And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:42-43).

There seems to me to be no need to be spending several years under a microscope to make sure anyone's faith is real?

Haz.

Getting into Heaven and getting into an Amish community are 2 entirely different things. It's too bad mainstream Christians don't have the conviction that these people have.

[Paul 84]

Thanks momofmany5 that was some good information. I myself think the Old Order Faith Groups and those similiar to them have a better understanding on many issues of Christianity, than we in the modern world, I'm also with you I think I would love to be part of one of these groups.

[oldzimm]

Thanks momofmany5 that was some good information. I myself think the Old Order Faith Groups and those similiar to them have a better understanding on many issues of Christianity, than we in the modern world, I'm also with you I think I would love to be part of one of these groups.

You must understand that going into the Amish faith is much more then just living their simple way of life. That life style is very tough and there is no maybe about it, there are going to be some hard times. One of the things you will be giving up is the gift God has given us, called modern medicine. More then once I have read in the paper of a Amish child dieing when modern medicine may have saved them.

[Paul 84]

Thanks for the advice oldzimm, I apologiy those I said I would love to be in their group not that I would. For reason beyond my control I honestly couldn't. If it wasn't for one in particular I would definitely try. But I won't state what it is just that it is a road block right now.

[Smalcald]

The Amish use modern medicine, at least the ones that live here do. They do not believe in government involvement in any way though and thus do not use Medicaid or Medicare but pay for their medical care in cash or credit with the doctors or hospitals. When a member of their community gets sick they all pitch in and thus have a form of self insurance. It is kind of interesting though because they will not use all modern medicine. For example pace-makers would be a problem and some other devices that may be needed at home. But in general if they get sick they go to a doctor.

They also use some gas powered machinery to do certain farm tasks, in particular where we live they run saw mills and in these cases will use gas powered engines.

I personally know two Amish families. They indeed have a more works based idea although we don't really get into it. They have no interest in spreading the Word outside of their group, which for me is kind of a problem although their lifestyle is so different from modern culture that it stands as a form of spreading the Word. Anyway I think we can learn some things from them, we can take the good parts and leave the rest. We are FAR too materialistic for one and we see from them that you don't need things to be happy or be a Christian. We also buy into modern culture far far too much and we can learn some things from them about resisting this.

To me a more interesting group are the hudderites. Also ana-babtist, but Hudderites live communally in the way of Acts where everyone owns things together.

[Press Forward]

You must understand that going into the Amish faith is much more then just living their simple way of life. That life style is very tough and there is no maybe about it, there are going to be some hard times. One of the things you will be giving up is the gift God has given us, called modern medicine. More then once I have read in the paper of a Amish child dieing when modern medicine may have saved them.

Amen. All healing comes from Jesus. Electricity, I thank Jesus everyday for it. All good things come from Jesus. I don't want to go backwards...I want to press forward. I believe Jesus wants us to work smarter...not harder. I love being able to get things done so I can spend time with my family. I believe in working hard but also playing hard. I love my horses but when it comes to harvesting hay, a tractor can work circles around them. I love my horses but when it comes to travel ....trucks and automobiles work circles around them. But there is nothing like taking in the sights of this beautiful world from from the back of a horse. I love a simple life but it has nothing to do with working your fingers to the bone because you think it's pleasing to Jesus to reject modern technology.

They are a perfect example of taking the Holy Word of Jesus Christ... come up with some bondage lifestyle of doctrine of man .

I thought they were pretty entertaining when we visited the Amish country. For folks that are against the worldly evils, they sure like to get money for their products. Trying to get them to talk about the Lord Jesus is like pulling teeth from a horse. And don't even think about taking a picture or a video...and cherishing a memory...Satan must have invented the camera.

And they didn't seem all that joyful...i guess they hold it inside.

Like I said before...know your own people...know your own kind. How they live and what they do is between them and Almighty Jesus. I just hate to see people and especially children in such bondage. Give me a break...a picture

I love roughing it in the woods....but if Jesus would open a door and provide me with a nice 4 horse living quarters gooseneck trailer...with all the modern electronic gadgets...and generator...I would leave the rough life in a second...and be thankful...sing praises of joy...and howl at the moon...

people should be grateful when blessings like electricity and modern stuff comes your way...I know I am...and I don't want to go backwards................a picture....now I've seen everything

[oldzimm]

The Amish use modern medicine, at least the ones that live here do. They do not believe in government involvement in any way though and thus do not use Medicaid or Medicare but pay for their medical care in cash or credit with the doctors or hospitals. When a member of their community gets sick they all pitch in and thus have a form of self insurance. It is kind of interesting though because they will not use all modern medicine. For example pace-makers would be a problem and some other devices that may be needed at home. But in general if they get sick they go to a doctor.

They also use some gas powered machinery to do certain farm tasks, in particular where we live they run saw mills and in these cases will use gas powered engines.

I personally know two Amish families. They indeed have a more works based idea although we don't really get into it. They have no interest in spreading the Word outside of their group, which for me is kind of a problem although their lifestyle is so different from modern culture that it stands as a form of spreading the Word. Anyway I think we can learn some things from them, we can take the good parts and leave the rest. We are FAR too materialistic for one and we see from them that you don't need things to be happy or be a Christian. We also buy into modern culture far far too much and we can learn some things from them about resisting this.

To me a more interesting group are the hudderites. Also ana-babtist, but Hudderites live communally in the way of Acts where everyone owns things together.

Yes you are right, I was wrong to make it seem like all Amish turn away modern medicine. I have seen Amish at the doctors also, I think it depends on how strict their order might be on how much of the modern medicine they will accept.

[Guest]

You must understand that going into the Amish faith is much more then just living their simple way of life. That life style is very tough and there is no maybe about it, there are going to be some hard times. One of the things you will be giving up is the gift God has given us, called modern medicine. More then once I have read in the paper of a Amish child dieing when modern medicine may have saved them.

Amen. All healing comes from Jesus. Electricity, I thank Jesus everyday for it. All good things come from Jesus. I don't want to go backwards...I want to press forward. I believe Jesus wants us to work smarter...not harder. I love being able to get things done so I can spend time with my family. I believe in working hard but also playing hard. I love my horses but when it comes to harvesting hay, a tractor can work circles around them. I love my horses but when it comes to travel ....trucks and automobiles work circles around them. But there is nothing like taking in the sights of this beautiful world from from the back of a horse. I love a simple life but it has nothing to do with working your fingers to the bone because you think it's pleasing to Jesus to reject modern technology.

They are a perfect example of taking the Holy Word of Jesus Christ... come up with some bondage lifestyle of doctrine of man .

I thought they were pretty entertaining when we visited the Amish country. For folks that are against the worldly evils, they sure like to get money for their products. Trying to get them to talk about the Lord Jesus is like pulling teeth from a horse. And don't even think about taking a picture or a video...and cherishing a memory...Satan must have invented the camera.

And they didn't seem all that joyful...i guess they hold it inside.

Like I said before...know your own people...know your own kind. How they live and what they do is between them and Almighty Jesus. I just hate to see people and especially children in such bondage. Give me a break...a picture

I love roughing it in the woods....but if Jesus would open a door and provide me with a nice 4 horse living quarters gooseneck trailer...with all the modern electronic gadgets...and generator...I would leave the rough life in a second...and be thankful...sing praises of joy...and howl at the moon...

people should be grateful when blessings like electricity and modern stuff comes your way...I know I am...and I don't want to go backwards................a picture....now I've seen everything

I don't think getting money for their products really has anything to do with them not being involved with worldly evils. If that bothers you then I suppose you can pass it by and not buy from them. Like you said , how they live and what they do is between them and Jesus , so maybe just respect that and go on. Why were you wanting their picture so bad anyway? You said they were entertaining , well they are also humans with feelings and they do believe in Jesus as the Son of God , so even if they do things and believe a little different is no reason to belittle them. And just because they did not show you any "joy" does not mean they are in bondage. Who are you to judge that?

[Believer1997]

The Amish use modern medicine, at least the ones that live here do. They do not believe in government involvement in any way though and thus do not use Medicaid or Medicare but pay for their medical care in cash or credit with the doctors or hospitals. When a member of their community gets sick they all pitch in and thus have a form of self insurance. It is kind of interesting though because they will not use all modern medicine. For example pace-makers would be a problem and some other devices that may be needed at home. But in general if they get sick they go to a doctor.

They also use some gas powered machinery to do certain farm tasks, in particular where we live they run saw mills and in these cases will use gas powered engines.

I personally know two Amish families. They indeed have a more works based idea although we don't really get into it. They have no interest in spreading the Word outside of their group, which for me is kind of a problem although their lifestyle is so different from modern culture that it stands as a form of spreading the Word. Anyway I think we can learn some things from them, we can take the good parts and leave the rest. We are FAR too materialistic for one and we see from them that you don't need things to be happy or be a Christian. We also buy into modern culture far far too much and we can learn some things from them about resisting this.

To me a more interesting group are the hudderites. Also ana-babtist, but Hudderites live communally in the way of Acts where everyone owns things together.

Yes you are right, I was wrong to make it seem like all Amish turn away modern medicine. I have seen Amish at the doctors also, I think it depends on how strict their order might be on how much of the modern medicine they will accept.

This is a good site that elaborates on what they believe and how they live. They use doctors for childbirth and medication and seek out medical help which is paid by the order...

http://www.information-entertainment.com/Religion/amish.html

[Dog House Bill]

Thanks for the info. I was always wondering about this.