Military Service and Self-defense

[Rick-Parker]

Maybe not mandatory military service if you object, but some type of civil service. Otherwise, forget about any assistance from Uncle Sam. And if you're rich, then make them pay up the wazoo. Besides, why wouldn't you want to serve your country. That's the problem with young people since the 60's. All gimme and no give.

[Gauntlet]

I have a friend, that he has very few of his family living in the USA anymore..... why? cause they are conscientious objectors... they left the USA and went to Canada because they were being drafted. when amnesty was declared they stayed there, why? cause they believed if they were not willing to follow the rules of the land they were living in, they had no need in going back to it.... (another reason, they had made new lives for themselves as well, going back would not solve anything either)

I remember a movie years ago, I do not remember everything about it. but this part stuck in my mind (wish I could remember the name of it, dont even remember who was in it)....

in the movie, a roman soldier had been there when Christ died. and later converted to Christianity, and then arrested....

some of his former fellow soldiers were taunting him, and one then asked him if it was true, that a Christian was to turn his other cheek, the former soldier said yes (he was a big guy too) then the one that asked him hauled off and belted him in the face. the former soldier smiled and offered his other cheek..... when the soldier struck him, he turned and looked at the soldier that struck him and said......NOW IT IS MY TURN.....

I was raised not to fight... I learned to fight but was taught not to. I was taught to turn the other cheek as well....

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE IN TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK AND BEING WALKED ON......

we are not told to be walked on, we are taught not to be door mats, in fact, we are to stand and be strong..... Christ even told His followers that if they do not have a sword, to go and get one........

now why would Christ tell them to get a sword if they were not to use it if need be? I am not saying cause trouble, but for protection......

God went out before David many many many times..... He has lead Israel in and through combat many many many times, even in recent years...... if you notice that when ever Israel is being attacked and Israel gets the upper hand... no one seems to care if Israel is the underdog, but when Israel get the upper (not if, when) hand, that is when every one gets upset and wants a truce.... Israel was never suppose to make any treaties from the very get go, and yet.... well,

anyways.....

a door mat we are not......

mike

Your colours don't run.

Ours will go on peacekeeping missions.

[OneLight]

Many who claim they will not fight have no idea the pain and anger they feel when a loved one is badly beaten before their eyes, or their child raped or a loved one murdered. Until you stand in those shoes, all you are doing is stating your beliefs. Nobody really knows until that time comes.

[Guest man]

Ours will go on peacekeeping missions.

The military isn't all about war and killing.

I know people who served during the Vietnam conflict and never saw one second of combat.

Too much TV and video games.

[OneLight]

Ours will go on peacekeeping missions.

The military isn't all about war and killing.

I know people who served during the Vietnam conflict and never saw one second of combat.

Too much TV and video games.

I was one of them. Never was in-country.

[Blien]

I think you love your enemy AND defend yourself and your homeland. There are very few careers more honorable and worthy than serving in the military. I believe that God gave us this country and He wants us to defend and preserve it. We may disagree with exactly how to lead it, defend it and preserve it - but I think we, as Christians, do love it ... and each other. God Bless.

You know in all my days of searching for an answer to this question. I dont think I've ever seen a better response than this one. Thanks Believer! Now I can truly understand how someone can be a Christian and a man of service in the military.

[irishcowboy]

Ours will go on peacekeeping missions.

The military isn't all about war and killing.

I know people who served during the Vietnam conflict and never saw one second of combat.

Too much TV and video games.

there was a young lady I use to know, grew up in Kansas City. spent her entire life there. she joined the Navy to get out of the area, to see new things and to go new places. she traveled to Orlando for boot camp, then spent a couple months in Orlando going to school, then she got orders to the Navy Processing Station in Kansas City.... spent her 4 years (minus training) in Kansas City. this was not what she wanted.

mike