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Every morning when I wake up I have the choice to follow God today or to live the day for myself. Every time I have a decision to make I have the choice to do it God's way or my way. When I chose Jesus I also got the Father and Holy Spirit. I also got the promise of eventually being with the Father and Jesus face to face. I got the promise of being where they are. I got all this through my choice not because I was forced to accept it. I will be in Heaven because I chose to be there not because I was forced to be there. If God was into forcing us to be in heaven then the only ones that would go to hell or the lake of fire are Satan and those demons that follow him.

What I am saying is we are in heaven because we choose to be NOT because God forces us to be. Because we choose to be in heaven it won't be hell for us at all but will bring us a joy beyond any we have ever known. This certainly sounds like freewill to me.

That's my feeling also. Blessings to you!! :thumbsup:

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When you are one with God in Heaven - you have no desire to sin - You are correct - there is no sin in Heaven - that's why it's Heaven.

Ecclesiastes 5:2

Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few.

Blessings.

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Oe thing I don't understand is when you ask someone who hasn't been saved if they are going to Heaven, they always use the good/bad behaviour criteria as a basis for their answer.

I don't understand why people want to go to Heaven in the first place. :emot-questioned:

Because it beats the heck out of the alternative, N.C. :rolleyes:

I heard there is no free will though in Heaven, to me it seems an eternity without free will would be hell.

Presumably you wouldn't be aware of your lack of free will. ;)

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Oe thing I don't understand is when you ask someone who hasn't been saved if they are going to Heaven, they always use the good/bad behaviour criteria as a basis for their answer.

I don't understand why people want to go to Heaven in the first place. :group-hug:

Because it beats the heck out of the alternative, N.C. :thumbsup:

I heard there is no free will though in Heaven, to me it seems an eternity without free will would be hell.

Presumably you wouldn't be aware of your lack of free will. :amen:

God's respect of our free will is often cited as to the reason He doesn't intervene to stop all the suffering in the world. How does one reconcile that with the removal of free will in Heaven.

As I said in an earlier post. I am following Jesus because I CHOSE to follow Jesus. I will be with Him in Heaven cause I chose Him and chose to be with Him in Heaven. I will not sin in heaven because I chose to be there and not sin. There will be no sin in heaven because those who are with Jesus in heaven chose not to sin and chose to be with Him there. Whether God chose to take away sin or not doesn't stop my freewill choice to be there and be without sin because I want to. I still have freewill I just choose to let God be God and do away with sin if He so chooses. All this is my choice so it looks to me as if freewill is alive and well in heaven and that those in heaven choose to let God be God and do away with sin if He so chooses. Still looks like freewill to me.

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I don't know about you - but I've had the ability to "consciously CHOOSE to believe things" since I was old enough to develop reasoning abilities and intuition. Upon gathering information and learning and my own feelings - I consciously chose to believe in God and subsequently accept Jesus as His Son and My Salvation. I think I've heard you make this comment before rstrats and I'm not understanding why you don't think someone with the ability to think and reason wouldn't be able to make a conscious choice. :thumbsup:

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There is such a place here on earth negative. It's called a robot assembly line. And yes, you are going to say that robots don't have free will, and I am not going to get into the theology of that with you, except to say that without sin, but only free will, where's the handbrake on our behaviour. Don't tell me morals, moral behaviour is based on the precept that something immoral is actually sin, and I believe that even a non believer such as yourself should agree with that?

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