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Well I think that what happens to Israel is a VERY spiritual discussion but it involves the politics and politicians of the world.

Since this is His creation, any discussions about rulers and ruling seems to be as biblical as any other discussion on baptism...but a lot less hostile.

I find that theological debates can be contentious because everyone thinks they are a teacher...and too much teaching in the church for the last 2,000 years has been done in a "greek" spirit and horribly bad interpretations have come through seminaries for centuries now. It takes a long time and a lot of patience to undo the junk of traditions before we can discuss the truth of God's pure Word. I have little patience for it anymore.

Not to mention all the anti-semitism that has been institutionalized into the church since the early church "fathers"

So I come here to discuss what God is doing in the world with my friends. Not really here to reach the lost though I certainly like it when the opportunity arises.

This is true brother, concerning Israel, and I don't think anyone wants this aspect of the board to stop. At least I sure don't. We have to look to Israel and too many don't understand that.

You know - people are gifted in different ways. Many here are blessed to have deep insights in various leanings. I think this place is truly blessed with a wide assortment of high caliber servants of God. Really I feel that way. I'm humbled to be able to read y'alls posts.

I'm jsut saying there is room for teaching too. We still have young members that need solid footing. We have seasoned members that need deeper truths. We need it all.

I do hope that nobody is seeing this message I bring as trying to stop our discussion of what is happening to the world. We are told to be watchful. What is happening in Israel is so important to everyone and your insight yod, and that of Shiloh357, has taught me a lot.

Please understand. This is not to call us to bury our heads from the world, nor is it to point fingers and anyone. It is neither to talk down about the church, but to cause us to examine our inner selves to see who is sitting on the throne of our hearts and minds. It is to shine the light on the spiritual food we eat. It is to encourage us all to get back to doing His work and put aside the worldly pleasures that have been creeping back into our lives. It is to strengthen the Whole Armor of God so we can withstand the battle that is on the horizon. But most important, it is to encourage us all to become involved in the salvation of the lost.

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