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Fez - are you going to check with the bank :thumbsup:

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If you were in desperate need of money and found a purse or wallet full of cash and information that stated who the money belonged too,

Fez had no such information.

No such information? What do you call this?

So what now? Only one other bank in town.......Off to the other bank

FYI, I'm not shocked by a miracle. I've seen miracles and this isn't even close.

:blink: Well goody for you.

Next you're going to tell me that you are not susceptible to pride, right?

I don't see where pride plays a part in any of this.

Money can cause a person to stumble in many ways. I can't see God giving somebody something that could quite possibly cause them to stumble.

Come on - Jesus told Peter to get a coin out of a fish's mouth.

Or do you believe that if it was God, they'd just show up one day at the property and an house would be there where there was not one before? :blink:

How else cold they build a house?

How did they obtain the property?

It's a really sad situation and what's even sadder, is that people are giving him a :thumbsup: and telling him to go for it.

So tell me, man - what are you doing to minister directly to the poor and needy?

I don't take things that don't belong to me and give it to someone else. I earn what I give.

Yet you will sit there behind your cushy computer and judge a brother who is putting his life on the life for the sake of Christ and His people?

I've told you this before but I'll say it again just in case you forgot..........I don't take guilt trips.

I'm not judging him. I don't have too. He came right out and admitted what he did.

I don't know what it says in your bible, but in mine it states that you don't take things that don't belong to you.

Maybe you should just let this go because you're making this a lot worst than it is.

I can't believe I'm having to sit here and defend the Word from people who should know it. That just floors me.

Guest HIS girl
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Fez, a few concerns leap into my mind -

Were you praying for extra funds for the building materials and if so were you specific?

Another thing that I have found in my personal walk with the Lord is this - when the Lord's Hand moves - there is no doubt.

If I hadn't been praying for extra funds or a particular amount and another cash amount came out of the ATM that I had not keyed in - I would check with the bank.


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I'm just imagining how damaging it would be to his witness if it is later found out to be an error. You don't want to be known as a theif.


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`andy` -


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As far as I am concerned, I have not questioned your walk with Christ, your ministry or anything else but you keeping the money. That is the matter at hand, nothing else. As I said, if it is of God, then the bank will have no account. If there is no money missing then there is nothing you have to return. If the money is missing, then is it really from Him for you to keep?

I pray His will in your ministry for Him.

God Bless,

Alan


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Fez, I am not questioning your salvation, but whether or not this was a miracle from God or a clerical error from the bank. You have nothing to fear by checking with the bank.


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blessings andy,

fez answered that question on post # 9 and on this one as well:

I am not going to get into a long and protracted fight over this. I said in the beginning I was confused about what happened, I don't know what happened, more has happened since, but that would just be opening another door on being judged. And the caution that I feel is this:-

My card reappearing? Miracle? I can't figure out what else it could be. I know what I saw, I know what my brother saw, and now I question that if I question the fact and look for rational explanation (which I cannot find), am I doubting Jesus. And that dishonors Him and denigrates my faith. I feel His hand on this, I feel His hand on what we are doing, I have never felt anything this strongly in my life. He is with us.

If I accept the above as a miracle, why not the fact that He sent the money, and it has nothing to do with the bank, or me? See my dilemma?

And as to the paying back of the money, if that is to be the case it is a non issue. I will pay it back with gladness, and then chose to believe that the hand of the Lord was in this anyway, and that it was His way of saying, enough, get this house built, I want you here sooner than later. So that is why I say I will wait and see if the statement arrives before the end of the month. For two reasons. One is that it might take that much time, and two is that it is only possible to get back to Mozambique for me at the end of the month.

love your sister in Christ,

Rebekah David

And again, by questioning where the money came from, I refer you to my thoughts in para two of this post. Again the dilemma.

This is not about the money, it is only money! It is a means to an end, and nothing more.

I believe in the God of miracles, I believe in a God through which anything is possible, and I serve Him in whatever way He asks. I don't then go and steal money, defraud a bank, conjure up credit cards using magic, or through wishful thinking and forlorn hope, expect manna to fall. We have been working and praying in Mozambique for 10 years, we know God is with us, for no one has been able to come against us. Think I'm going to destroy all that over mere money?

If this was a miracle (and forgive me Lord my doubts), thank you Jesus. If it was not He will make it known, and restitution will take place! In the meantime I await under His grace and favor, and continue down the path He has set before us there.

And what is to redeem Onelight, if this is a miracle? You and I obviously have a different take on what God is capable of? God knows my heart in this, and it does not need redeeming, it will follow, as it has for 10 years, the Word of the Lord. When He speaks, you will be the first to know, and speak He will.


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:)

Thank-you for sharing your testimony, Fez.

That is so awesome to be used of the Lord like that.

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