Abusa Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 93 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/11/1966 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Was Jesus Killed? Jesus said this about his death: (Joh 2:19) Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. He was talking of his body yet they thought he was talking of the Physical Temple. In another place he said: (Joh 10:17) Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. (Joh 10:18) No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. He was commanded to die and to rise again by his Father, so what happened at crucifixion? Was he killed by the Romans? In my walk with Jesus, I have come to notice that most believers believe in Jesus but do not believe him. Thus even when I read about him asking his disciples, for how long they have been with him yet know him not, I am not surprised. Most of those that say they walk with Jesus know him not (John 17:3) and therefore do not believe his word. The same goes with knowing God the Father and believing the words of Jesus which he said, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2009 I think if you look at this from two different perspectives, it will become clearer. From the perspective of Jesus, Jesus KNEW they were going to kill Him, and yet He willingly walked towards the cross and His death. In this sense, He chose to lay down His life. From the perspective of the Romans, they killed Him. I do not believe they realised that He was the Christ, and that He was willingly laying down His life. He was killed, because He laid down His life. How did He lay down His life? By willingly surrendering to the Romans to be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2009 Yes, Jesus was killed. He could have stopped it, but he didn't for our sake..... but the Romans killed him at the request of Jewish priests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Of course Jesus was killed and died and was physically buried and yet rose again from the dead, He defeated death once and for all. It is a lie of Satan himself to claim other wise. This is what Muslims believe about Jesus, that He did not die but ascended directly to God. This idea is heresy and one cannot be a Christian and intentionally believe such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunterpoet Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,704 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/29/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1950 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Jesus was not killed. Abusa is correct. Jesus was in total control the entire time. Certain things had to be done to be in line with prophecy. I just finished a study entitled " The Cross ", and in this study it is shown that Jesus was not killed. Now the Romans and Pharisee's may have thought they were killing Him, but they were not. Our Lord Jesus did not lose His life at the hands of any human, but rather He gave up His life after all had been fulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabetht Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 399 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/18/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2009 "He chose the nails." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.95 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Jesus was not killed. Abusa is correct. Jesus was in total control the entire time. Certain things had to be done to be in line with prophecy. I just finished a study entitled " The Cross ", and in this study it is shown that Jesus was not killed. Now the Romans and Pharisee's may have thought they were killing Him, but they were not. Our Lord Jesus did not lose His life at the hands of any human, but rather He gave up His life after all had been fulfilled. So in a way he committed suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2009 Jesus was not killed. Abusa is correct. Jesus was in total control the entire time. Certain things had to be done to be in line with prophecy. I just finished a study entitled " The Cross ", and in this study it is shown that Jesus was not killed. Now the Romans and Pharisee's may have thought they were killing Him, but they were not. Our Lord Jesus did not lose His life at the hands of any human, but rather He gave up His life after all had been fulfilled. So in a way he committed suicide? ... no, He allowed them to take His life. I don't read where He nailed Himself to the cross, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 25, 2009 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,855 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2009 Jesus was not killed. Abusa is correct. Jesus was in total control the entire time. Certain things had to be done to be in line with prophecy. I just finished a study entitled " The Cross ", and in this study it is shown that Jesus was not killed. Now the Romans and Pharisee's may have thought they were killing Him, but they were not. Our Lord Jesus did not lose His life at the hands of any human, but rather He gave up His life after all had been fulfilled. So in a way he committed suicide? ... no, He allowed them to take His life. I don't read where He nailed Himself to the cross, do you? He allowed them to kill him, so he was killed..... other than that you would have to say he committed suicide...... and I can't go there. He was killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 He died yes, but he was not killed. This correct. If Jesus was not killed, murdered, martyred, executed. Jesus died when He chose to die. The cross could not kill Jesus. Jesus died at 3 pm when the Passover lamb was killed in the Temple. Jesus gave up his Spirit, according to the Bible. None of us can do that. If Jesus had wanted to hang on the cross for 100 years, He could have and no one could have done anything about it. Jesus was in complete control of the events surrounding His death. Jesus as God exercised complete power over death and died when He wanted to die and not a moment too soon or too late. Jesus death was the voluntary giving of His own life. (sacrifice) It was not an act where it was taken from Him (killed). If Jesus were killed, His death was not a sacrifice, and that poses a lot of major problems since the Bible teaches that Jesus was the final sacrifice for sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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