Divorce permiited Deut 24:1 ?

[humbleseeker]

I was watching a show on the hiostory channel about the middle ages or dark ages. I did not know that the church did not have any rules on marriage. You could marry and put away woman at your choosing. It didnt say when this ended but as strict as the church was then it caught my attention.

[JCISGD]

Please correct me but you seem to have contradicted yourself. I agree the man who divorces is also in adultery according to Jesus, so are you now agreeing with all remarriage is adultery? and if not who then can remarry in the light of both the man and women divorcing being called in adultery?

How am I contradicting myself? Please show me ...

What I bring is scripture. Paul tells us the following about being unequally yoked and divorce.

1 Corinthians 7:12-16 (New King James Version)

But to the rest I, not the Lord, say: If any brother has a wife who does not believe, and she is willing to live with him, let him not divorce her. And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace. For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?

AS for the case of adultery, we read the following.

Matthew 19:1-12 (New King James Version)

Marriage and Divorce

Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these sayings, that He departed from Galilee and came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.

The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him,

[OneLight]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

Wow..never heard it explained so well and clear. Thanks!

But what if both are guilty of adultery before they divorced and before they were saved?

[JCISGD]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

Yes thanks OL, and as Jedi says very clear and concise. I find it difficult to keep all the thoughts in my mind at once.

As much as i agree/want to agree, I still cant wrap my head around it all.

How can remarriage not be adultery even if the spouse has committed it first ? *1

Isnt adultery breaking the monogamus bond between two first time spouses unless it be by death?

Sex b4 marriage is called fornication, but if they marry isnt it binding untill death?

If the spouse that was divorced for no reason is in adultery if she remarries, then doesnt this prove it is always adultery to remarry?

If all unrepentant adulterers are in danger of hell, why would an unfairly divorced person go into adultery by remarrying. *2

If marrying the divorced person who has committed adultery is committing adultery, how is it not adultery if the innocent spouse remarries? *5

If all divorce is hardening of heart, then isnt it true that a christian cannot divorce under any circumstances, even if the unbeliever departs?, or is it only the departer that has hardened their heart?

The only sense i can make of it is if i replace the word adultery with impurity. Could that be accurate?

*whoever divorces their spouse except the spouse has first committed impurity, commits impurity.

*whoever marries a spouse divorced for committing impurity, is guilty of committing impurity also? but that makes breaking the bond and joining to another impurity, which would also make the innocents remarriage impurity also.

I am so unable to get my mind to be at peace with all the points of any one veiw i have ever come accross, and i think ive read them all.

[OneLight]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

Wow..never heard it explained so well and clear. Thanks!

But what if both are guilty of adultery before they divorced and before they were saved?

Our sins have been forgiven upon salvation. We are a new creation in Him.

[OneLight]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

Yes thanks OL, and as Jedi says very clear and concise. I find it difficult to keep all the thoughts in my mind at once.

As much as i agree/want to agree, I still cant wrap my head around it all.

How can remarriage not be adultery even if the spouse has committed it first ? *1

Isnt adultery breaking the monogamus bond between two first time spouses unless it be by death?

Sex b4 marriage is called fornication, but if they marry isnt it binding untill death?

If the spouse that was divorced for no reason is in adultery if she remarries, then doesnt this prove it is always adultery to remarry?

If all unrepentant adulterers are in danger of hell, why would an unfairly divorced person go into adultery by remarrying. *2

If marrying the divorced person who has committed adultery is committing adultery, how is it not adultery if the innocent spouse remarries? *5

If all divorce is hardening of heart, then isnt it true that a christian cannot divorce under any circumstances, even if the unbeliever departs?, or is it only the departer that has hardened their heart?

The only sense i can make of it is if i replace the word adultery with impurity. Could that be accurate?

*whoever divorces their spouse except the spouse has first committed impurity, commits impurity.

*whoever marries a spouse divorced for committing impurity, is guilty of committing impurity also? but that makes breaking the bond and joining to another impurity, which would also make the innocents remarriage impurity also.

I am so unable to get my mind to be at peace with all the points of any one veiw i have ever come accross, and i think ive read them all.

Let's look at this once again.

He said to them,

[Jedi4Yahweh]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

Wow..never heard it explained so well and clear. Thanks!

But what if both are guilty of adultery before they divorced and before they were saved?

Our sins have been forgiven upon salvation. We are a new creation in Him.

So does that mean in that case that they are free remarry another?

[OneLight]

When we look at scripture that tells us that divorce is permitted, we are given guidelines.

1. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and remarry, you are guilty of adultery.
   
2. If you divorce your spouse for no reason, and you spouse remarries, you are guilty of causing your spouse to commit adultery.
   
3. If a spouse is guilty of adultery and you divorce them, then you are not held responsible for their future sin, as you were not responsible for the sin that caused the divorce.
   
4. It is better to remain single or get back together with your wife then it is to remarry, unless the divorce was due to your spouse being a non-believer and filed for the divorce, then you are not bound to the marriage.
   
5. If you marry the spouse that was divorced due to adultery, then you are guilty of adultery yourself.
   
6. Divorce is the result of the hardening of the heart. If God was the center of the marriage, divorce would never happen in that family.
   

Hope this clears up my thoughts and understanding.

Wow..never heard it explained so well and clear. Thanks!

But what if both are guilty of adultery before they divorced and before they were saved?

Our sins have been forgiven upon salvation. We are a new creation in Him.

So does that mean in that case that they are free remarry another?

After salvation, are you free from you previous sins? I can not, nor will I try to, answer for God. I only go by what scripture clearly states. If anyone has a question if they should marry another, they need to take this before God themselves. If one goes outside of Gods will, then when they are asked about it, does anyone really think the defense of 'They told me it was OK!" will stand? BE wise in Him and seek an answer through scripture and prayer. Only the Holy Spirit will guide you in all truth, IF you are willing to listen and accept His answer.