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Can A Person Get Saved Without The Understanding Of The Trinity?


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I was saved at the age of 9 years old. And my whole life has had Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour.

My question is, If I got saved without knowing or understanding clearly that Jesus is Almighty God.

Does that mean that salvation is based completely on excepting Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour.

Or does it meant that you can not be saved until you understand that Jesus is God and also except him as your Lord and saviour.

The Bible says: I am the way the truth and the life no man cometh to the Father except by me.

It wasn't until later I understood that Jesus was God. So does that mean I really wasn't saved in the first place or does that mean my salavation really didn't come to be until I did understand that fact.

Another words is salvation of understanding that Jesus is God a requirment to being saved?

The reason I bring this up is that Philip in John 14:8-9 didn't even understand that Jesus was God up until this point:

John 14:8-9 (KJV) Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

So here we see Philip didn't even know up until this point in time that Jesus was God the Father and yet it would seem Philip was saved already trusting in Jesus.

Another Question: Can a person get saved if they don't believe that Jesus is God. What if someone trust Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour but absolutly does not believe that Jesus is God.

If you answer that is imposible to be saved and believe that Jesus is not God then you have to say that a person can't be saved at all without the full understanding that Jesus is God.

You see my point,

Please let me know what you think?

Thanks,

Zotah

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roman's 10:8-10 says that if you believe with your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and that God raised Him from the dead, you are saved.

what it does NOT say is that one has to grasp the concept of the trinity or understand that Jesus and God are one. it says you have to believe and confess that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead.

how many thousands of children each year accept Christ as their saviour and don't yet understand everything about Him? i was seven when i accepted Christ. i don't know if i understood it all back then. but i do know that i accepted salvation and was saved, and as my relationship grew and i matured both chronologically and spiritually, my knowledge of who Jesus is deepend.


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I was saved at the age of 9 years old. And my whole life has had Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour.

If you accepted Christ as your Lord and Saviour, even with the little faith you had, you are indeed saved.

The Bible says as far as our knowledge goes, we move on from milk to meat. Most all of us start out our Christian walk with little knowledge and learn as we grow in grace. Nobody, save God, has all the answers.

Does that mean that salvation is based completely on excepting Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour.

Yes. It is only through Christ that we are saved.

Can a person get saved if they don't believe that Jesus is God. What if someone trust Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour but absolutly does not believe that Jesus is God.

If a person does not believe that Jesus is who/what he says he is, than no.

"I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I Am (the one I claim to be) you will indeed die in your sins." John 8:24

Only God (Jesus) could pay the price for our sins, as God is the only sinless/perfect being there is. To deny the deity of Jesus is to deny the only sacrifice we have for our sins.

If you answer that is imposible to be saved and believe that Jesus is not God then you have to say that a person can't be saved at all without the full understanding that Jesus is God.

There is a difference in not knowing that Jesus is God and accepting Him as saviour by faith, and denying with full knowledge that Jesus is God. The entire New Testament is full of passages that prove Jesus is God.


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Totally agree with LadyC... :emot-questioned: Can't wait to see how others explain this...could be interesting.


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I was saved at the age of 9 years old. And my whole life has had Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour.

My question is, If I got saved without knowing or understanding clearly that Jesus is Almighty God.

Does that mean that salvation is based completely on excepting Christ as your Lord and personal Saviour.

Or does it meant that you can not be saved until you understand that Jesus is God and also except him as your Lord and saviour.

The Bible says: I am the way the truth and the life no man cometh to the Father except by me.

It wasn't until later I understood that Jesus was God. So does that mean I really wasn't saved in the first place or does that mean my salavation really didn't come to be until I did understand that fact.

Another words is salvation of understanding that Jesus is God a requirment to being saved?

The reason I bring this up is that Philip in John 14:8-9 didn't even understand that Jesus was God up until this point:

John 14:8-9 (KJV) Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

So here we see Philip didn't even know up until this point in time that Jesus was God the Father and yet it would seem Philip was saved already trusting in Jesus.

Another Question: Can a person get saved if they don't believe that Jesus is God. What if someone trust Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour but absolutly does not believe that Jesus is God.

If you answer that is imposible to be saved and believe that Jesus is not God then you have to say that a person can't be saved at all without the full understanding that Jesus is God.

You see my point,

Please let me know what you think?

Thanks,

Zotah

Full understanding is not required for salvation. I didn't believe most of what I believe now when I got saved. Salvation is a spiritual thing, not a head knowledge thing. Believe on the LORD JESUS the CHRIST and you will be saved.

Half the people here will tell you you are not saved if you haven't been baptised by imersion. Others will tell you you are not saved if...

Salvation is in what JESUS did, not what you know.


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We can not truly understand anything about God until we have His Spirit to guide us, and that does not come until after salvation.

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Totally agree with LadyC... :P Can't wait to see how others explain this...could be interesting.

such a rare occasion :24::emot-questioned:


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I don't know anyone who understood everything about Christ and the Trinity at the time they were saved. Christianity is a bit like going to school. You start with the basics in kindergarten, then move ahead to a little more understanding in first grade, and so on. It is important to move ahead with a deeper understanding, and that requires Bible study and sound Bible teachers.

Have you grown in your understanding? Do you understand now that Jesus Christ is God? If so, then you have grown and are maturing in your Christian walk. Keep studying -- nobody ever knows everything about God and His word, but we all need to dig deeper into God's word and learn all we can.

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I still don't really understand the Trinity.


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I believe in the Trinity as Truth and I believe Christ IS God and is divine. But three beings, one entity, One God, yet fully human, come on who really understands that totally? But Christ told us Himself we are not going to understand everything and that is okay.

The problem comes when informed believers decide they cannot believe in the Trinity, because at that point you start losing the divinity of Christ and His Lordship.

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