Who is Judah?

[tsth]

Just a question, not really wanting to debate, just wondering?

Who is Judah, within the context of the prophets?  Is Judah significant of anything happening today?  Or do you think it was only pertaining to prophecies of the particular time, of say Jeremiah?  Or could it be significant today?  I am particularly interested in the prophecies of Jeremiah and Ezekiel, although there are many references within the minor prophets as well.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Karen C.]

Suzanne~Here's an article that you might find interesting...

http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/articlede...p?Article_ID=86

In Christ, Karen

[tsth]

Dear Karen,

Thank you so much for posting that article.  I did find it interesting and read through it thoroughly.  I'm afraid it's not quite addressing my question though.  And I realize I was not clear.  What I am specifically referring to, is the symbolism of Judah (as a nation), specifically in terms of the prophetic Scriptures speaking of judgement against it, along with Israel.

There is a difference between Judah, and the Lion of Judah, although the basis of my question does lie in the fact that I do understand Who the Lion of Judah is, and the lineage is in connection with my question, so to speak.  That is why I ask, who is the nation of Judah now?

Let me know if you've come across anything else! I'd love to see it.   Thanks!

In His Love,

Suzanne

[OneAccord]

I'm curious about this question too.  Who is Judah, who is Israel in today's revelation of prophecy??

[tsth]

Dear One,

I don't want to mislead anyone, I have my leadings as to who I think they are in Scripture, but I don't think anyone else has the same conclusion.  I guess I am fishing here, but I do, truly want to know what others think about this issue, and I am curious.

Do you have revelations on it?  Just wondering, as I am not prone to share my thoughts right now, I am strictly looking to see if anyone else has studied this, and cares to share on it.

Sorry, I am just looking for more information and guidance here.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[Guest Waldans Mountain]

Isnt the tribe of Judah simply the Jews?

[angels4u]

Judah

Jews have long been called "The Chosen People." The term is actually quite accurate, but chosen for what, and why?

Beginning with Abraham, we read, "and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed because you have obeyed Me." (Genesis 22:18) Abraham was most certainly a righteous man. He had been tested and proven worthy of that description. But did God speak to him that way because Abraham was somehow so good that God owed him something? Or, was Abraham the very best available choice for fulfilling a role in a process that had been set in motion long before? Was Abraham "the best man for the job"?

The promise continued through Abraham's son Isaac, and then through Isaac's son Jacob. With Jacob the process accelerated and expanded. God changed Jacob's name to Israel (Genesis 32:22-28), and from his 12 sons began the 12 tribes of Israel, the Israelites.

Among Israel's 12 sons was Judah. From his name, his descendants became known as Jews. Abraham was not a Jew. Isaac was not a Jew. Judah's 11 brothers were not Jews. They were all Israelites, but only Judah's children and descendants, right to this day, are actually qualified to be called Jews. It's more than identifying a correct name, it's a matter of identifying the correct line.

All of Israel's 12 tribes would eventually have a great effect upon the world, 11 of them through exploration, wealth, and industry (especially Ephraim and Manasseh, the sons of Israel's son Joseph), and 1, Judah, the Jews, the selected line through which a Savior would be born -

"The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until He comes to Whom it belongs, and the obedience of the nations is His." (Genesis 49:10)

Do you know the Lion of Juday??  His name is Jesus!!!!!!!

In Christ, Angels

[George]

Hello Suzanne,

Judah is referring to the tribe of Judah who is modern day the Jewish people.  If you recall the tribes of the north went into apostasy thus leaving just the tribe of Judah and Benjamin to the south.  Modern day Jews come mostly from the tribe of Judah, but also come from the tribes of Levi and Benjamin.

Just a tidbit of information that you might find interesting about some of the tribes of Israel.

Israeli Tribes: Once Lost now Found? - MSNBC News

Your brother in Messiah with much agape love,

George

[Guest Tigershark]

Hello Suzanne,

Judah is referring to the tribe of Judah who is modern day the Jewish people.

[tsth]

I don't want to mislead anyone, I have my leadings as to who I think they are in Scripture, but I don't think anyone else has the same conclusion.  I guess I am fishing here, but I do, truly want to know what others think about this issue, and I am curious.

Do you have revelations on it?  Just wondering, as I am not prone to share my thoughts right now, I am strictly looking to see if anyone else has studied this, and cares to share on it.

Well Tigershark,

Surprise, surprise, you have come across the very same things I have.

Question then concerning Jews and who is who.  The end to Zach makes a clear destinction between the "House of David", and the "tribe of Judah".  Why would Zach make the destinction in his time??  David is from Judah, correct or no?  Why will the man and women named as the "House of David" as various tribes under the "House of David" morn for the "one they pierced" but there is no mention of Judah morning?  just being a fire pot among the attackers?  

Zech. 12:2 to be precise.

How about Ps. 78:68,

Jer. 31:33 - why in addressing both Israel and Judah in the chapter, this particular part speaks only of Israel.  I think it is because it has already been put in Judah's heart.  I believe Judah is the picture of the current day Christians.  Christ is from the line of Judah right?

Jer. 33:24  2 kingdoms God chose?  Who else could those 2 be?  Jewish and Christians?

I also notice that Edom is bent on destroying these 2 particular kingdoms.  Sound familiar?

In His Love,

Suzanne