Condemnation and Guilt

[xFireWithinx]

How is that a Christian can say someone else is condemning them or placing guilt on them. If we know Christ then surely we only concern ourselves with what He says to us. I can understand how unbelievers can come under false condemnation and guilt as they often listen to the lies of Satan etc.

Is it not deflecting or dishonest attempt to silence another voice or opinion? Jesus did not cry foul when accused of false things, He refuted them but I dont see him trying to censor anyone. Are we supposed to censor preachers we disagree with? what if they are right and it is we who need to repent or change our thinking?

If anyone here should tell me "your wrong and in danger of hell", I would merely ask them why they think so and if they can sufficiently prove to my mind they are right, I would be very grateful for the correction. But if not I would only think "oh well thats your opinion but I disagree".

Why would I take offense and accuse them of trying to condemn me or bring me under guilt. If the shoe fits wear it, but if not dont.

There will always be differing veiws on every subject, and i maintain that although we are to defend correct doctrine, censorship endangers silencing the voice of Gods messangers. The Jews did this and heard no prophet for 400 yrs B.C, asthey killed the prophets they disagreed with. Is it right that "christians" do this also?

I was actually confronted with this issue last night, and I reacted much in the way that you have written about here.

I do not think it's ok for "christians" to do this.

First and foremost in my life is God, and being true to Him, not another person.

[JCISGD]

How is that a Christian can say someone else is condemning them or placing guilt on them. If we know Christ then surely we only concern ourselves with what He says to us. I can understand how unbelievers can come under false condemnation and guilt as they often listen to the lies of Satan etc.

Is it not deflecting or dishonest attempt to silence another voice or opinion? Jesus did not cry foul when accused of false things, He refuted them but I dont see him trying to censor anyone. Are we supposed to censor preachers we disagree with? what if they are right and it is we who need to repent or change our thinking?

If anyone here should tell me "your wrong and in danger of hell", I would merely ask them why they think so and if they can sufficiently prove to my mind they are right, I would be very grateful for the correction. But if not I would only think "oh well thats your opinion but I disagree".

Why would I take offense and accuse them of trying to condemn me or bring me under guilt. If the shoe fits wear it, but if not dont.

There will always be differing veiws on every subject, and i maintain that although we are to defend correct doctrine, censorship endangers silencing the voice of Gods messangers. The Jews did this and heard no prophet for 400 yrs B.C, asthey killed the prophets they disagreed with. Is it right that "christians" do this also?

I was actually confronted with this issue last night, and I reacted much in the way that you have written about here.

I do not think it's ok for "christians" to do this.

First and foremost in my life is God, and being true to Him, not another person.

Ahhh someone who gets it.

[Botz]

Botz- i hope you didnt think i was dismissive or angry at your replies, far from it and i do appreciate your attitude and love shown.

I dont want to talk examples as i dont take offense to others, im only discussing principle and not trying to stop anyones opinion by force, even if they think i am condemning. What im getting at is that, isnt telling someone they are condemning another against free speech and actually a form of censorship?

If I felt condemned I would take it to the Lord.

Nebula- Paul was refuting those who were adding to salvation by insisting on circumcisson etc, but i am only disscussing right behaviour of a Christian and not their salvation. This is where i think you and others are overreaching and in danger of censorship and silencing anything you dislike with the cry of "condemnation".

Thanks both of you for your interest in the welfare of others and myself, i will continue to allow the HS to show me error through your words but for now remain unconvinced by your arguements and thoughts.

If you reply to this i will read it but may not reply as it might be overlabouring the topic.

God bless.

Not at all mate...my only concern is that I failed to demonstrate my concern sufficiently convincingly.

[~Shalhevet~]

I understand what JG is saying and can relate to him.