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The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

There is no bilical proof to back that up. The spirit of wisdom for example is a condition of the heart of God given to us or available through the Holy Spirit. Where does the bible say the the spirit of wisdom is standing at the throne of God?

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Revelation 4:5

From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.

Revelation 1:12-18

I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13and among the lampstands was someone "like a son of man,"dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Revelation 1:4-5

John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

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What are the seven spirits of God???

I was thinking, could it be..

Knowledge, Truth, Understanding, Wisdom, Discipline, Power, Love.. Is that what they are? I named all these based on several scriptures.. but non of them say explicitly that they are the spirit of God. Just that they are spirits and they dwell with Him from the beginning of foundation (at least the first few).

I really have no idea, I just threw this out there. I am most likely wrong here.. Any ideas?

I don't know. But someone has suggested the answer can be found in this verse:

"And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;" (Isa 11:2)

1 The spirit of the LORD (The spirit of Yahweh).

2 The spirit of wisdom.

3 The spirit of understanding.

4 The spirit of counsel.

5 The spirit of might.

6 The spirit of knowledge.

7 The spirit of the fear of the LORD.

I don't know how accurate such an interpretation is - but I do believe that nothing in the Bible is written the way it is "by accident". Why did the Holy Spirit inspire Isaiah to give seven descriptions of the Holy Spirit?

So is the spirit of might standing before the throne of God? If so where in the bible does it tell us so?


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The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

There is no bilical proof to back that up. The spirit of wisdom for example is a condition of the heart of God given to us or available through the Holy Spirit. Where does the bible say the the spirit of wisdom is standing at the throne of God?

Sorry?

Where did I say in the portion you quoted that the seven Spirits are wisdom?


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Revelation 4:5

From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. Before the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.

Revelation 1:12-18

I turned around to see the voice that was speaking to me. And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13and among the lampstands was someone "like a son of man,"dressed in a robe reaching down to his feet and with a golden sash around his chest. His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a sharp double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Revelation 1:4-5

John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

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What are the seven spirits of God???

I was thinking, could it be..

Knowledge, Truth, Understanding, Wisdom, Discipline, Power, Love.. Is that what they are? I named all these based on several scriptures.. but non of them say explicitly that they are the spirit of God. Just that they are spirits and they dwell with Him from the beginning of foundation (at least the first few).

I really have no idea, I just threw this out there. I am most likely wrong here.. Any ideas?

I don't know. But someone has suggested the answer can be found in this verse:

"And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;" (Isa 11:2)

1 The spirit of the LORD (The spirit of Yahweh).

2 The spirit of wisdom.

3 The spirit of understanding.

4 The spirit of counsel.

5 The spirit of might.

6 The spirit of knowledge.

7 The spirit of the fear of the LORD.

I don't know how accurate such an interpretation is - but I do believe that nothing in the Bible is written the way it is "by accident". Why did the Holy Spirit inspire Isaiah to give seven descriptions of the Holy Spirit?

So is the spirit of might standing before the throne of God? If so where in the bible does it tell us so?

Massorite.

Do you have anything of substance to offer here, or are you content with questioning others' ideas?


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The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

There is no biblical proof to back that up. The spirit of wisdom for example is a condition of the heart of God given to us or available through the Holy Spirit. Where does the bible say the the spirit of wisdom is standing at the throne of God?

Sorry?

Where did I say in the portion you quoted that the seven Spirits are wisdom?

The one Holy Spirit you mentioned has all of the spirits of God and of Christ which include the spirit of Wisdom. Unless of course your interpretation of the many aspects or characteristics of the of the Holy Spirit are different then what the word of God says they are. In my bible the Holy Spirit not only has but also give to men the spirit of Wisdom. How about your bible.? What does it say about the Spirit of Wisdom and its connection to the Holy Spirit?


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The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

There is no biblical proof to back that up. The spirit of wisdom for example is a condition of the heart of God given to us or available through the Holy Spirit. Where does the bible say the the spirit of wisdom is standing at the throne of God?

Sorry?

Where did I say in the portion you quoted that the seven Spirits are wisdom?

The one Holy Spirit you mentioned has all of the spirits of God and of Christ which include the spirit of Wisdom. Unless of course your interpretation of the many aspects or characteristics of the of the Holy Spirit are different then what the word of God says they are. In my bible the Holy Spirit not only has but also give to men the spirit of Wisdom. How about your bible.? What does it say about the Spirit of Wisdom and its connection to the Holy Spirit?

There is a single verse in the New Testament that reads "spirit of wisdom." That's in Ephesians 1:17, where Paul said, "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the full knowledge of Him." That "spirit" there refers to our human spirit, not the Holy Spirit. That's little "s," not big "S." Actually, technically speaking, it's the mingled spirit - the human spirit regenerated with the Spirit - for it is through the Spirit that we are enlivened in spirit and given wisdom (1 Cor. 12:8).

So there is no "Spirit of wisdom" separate from or in another Person of the Holy Spirit. How many "Spirits" do you think there are in the Triune God. Do you believe like Benny Hinn who preached that each Person of the Trinity has His own Holy Spirit? If so, then that still only leaves 4 Spirits, not 7.


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The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

There is no biblical proof to back that up. The spirit of wisdom for example is a condition of the heart of God given to us or available through the Holy Spirit. Where does the bible say the the spirit of wisdom is standing at the throne of God?

Sorry?

Where did I say in the portion you quoted that the seven Spirits are wisdom?

The one Holy Spirit you mentioned has all of the spirits of God and of Christ which include the spirit of Wisdom. Unless of course your interpretation of the many aspects or characteristics of the of the Holy Spirit are different then what the word of God says they are. In my bible the Holy Spirit not only has but also give to men the spirit of Wisdom. How about your bible.? What does it say about the Spirit of Wisdom and its connection to the Holy Spirit?

There is a single verse in the New Testament that reads "spirit of wisdom." That's in Ephesians 1:17, where Paul said, "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the full knowledge of Him." That "spirit" there refers to our human spirit, not the Holy Spirit. That's little "s," not big "S." Actually, technically speaking, it's the mingled spirit - the human spirit regenerated with the Spirit - for it is through the Spirit that we are enlivened in spirit and given wisdom (1 Cor. 12:8).

So there is no "Spirit of wisdom" separate from or in another Person of the Holy Spirit. How many "Spirits" do you think there are in the Triune God. Do you believe like Benny Hinn who preached that each Person of the Trinity has His own Holy Spirit? If so, then that still only leaves 4 Spirits, not 7.

OK. As my first response stated the use of the spirit of Wisdom was only an example. I believe my exact words were "the spirit of wisdom for example". I could have used any one of the other spirits of God mentioned on this thread and it would have still fallen in with what I was tring to point out. You were dead wrong about only one single mention of the "Spirit of Wisdom". The Spirit of Wisdom is also spoken of as "The Spirit Of Wisdom" in the book of Isaiah 11:2 who also says that there are seven spirits of God.

Your first statement went like this.

"The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

So by your own words you were saying that the seven spirits of God which include the Spirit of Wisdom are part of the Holy Spirit which include the "Spirit of Wisdom" but now you are saying that there are only 4 spirits and this thread is about 7 spirits of God not 4.

Lets face it Ovedya you just don't like me and that is OK with me because nobody can satisfy everybody all of the time. It seems that you will go to great links to make me look wrong and that is Ok also. So here is what I say to "As you wish" conversation done.


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Revelation 1:20

The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands which you saw are the seven churches.

:rolleyes: Clean and simple

Why do people wish to complicate this is beyond me . . .


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So is the spirit of might standing before the throne of God? If so where in the bible does it tell us so?

"And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead." (Rev 3:1).

Who is that has the seven Spirits of God? Is it not He of whom it was written,

"And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;" (Isa 11:2).

The Holy Spirit is sent out:

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:" (Joh 15:26).

God is ominpresent. The Spirit of God can stand before the throne and be seated on the throne, and be in you.


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OK. As my first response stated the use of the spirit of Wisdom was only an example. I believe my exact words were "the spirit of wisdom for example". I could have used any one of the other spirits of God mentioned on this thread and it would have still fallen in with what I was tring to point out. You were dead wrong about only one single mention of the "Spirit of Wisdom". The Spirit of Wisdom is also spoken of as "The Spirit Of Wisdom" in the book of Isaiah 11:2 who also says that there are seven spirits of God.

Yes but that doesn't answer my question to you regarding whether you believe there are separate Spirits? If you take Isa. 11:2 literally you would have to conclude that there is a separate Spirit of Wisdom (and understanding), a separate Spirit of Council and Might, a separate Spirit of knowledge and fear of the Lord. So that's actually 3 Spirits. Which is it, then? Is there only 1 Holy Spirit or are there several Holy Spirits? Or perhaps is the one Holy Spirit somehow broken up into other Spirits, all of whom have different titles?

Your first statement went like this.

"The seven Spirits of God is a representation of the one Spirit - the Holy Spirit - in the aspect of His complete transformation work (The number 7 signifying consummation or completeness).

So by your own words you were saying that the seven spirits of God which include the Spirit of Wisdom are part of the Holy Spirit which include the "Spirit of Wisdom" but now you are saying that there are only 4 spirits and this thread is about 7 spirits of God not 4.

No. I was not saying any of that. I merely stated that there is only one Holy Spirit, but that the number 7 signifies the consummation work of the Spirit. I don't believe that there are actually seven Spirits. It was you who interjected that I was somehow including "the Spirit of Wisdom," which I was not.

I think that you are misunderstand what I was actually saying in the beginning.

Lets face it Ovedya you just don't like me and that is OK with me because nobody can satisfy everybody all of the time. It seems that you will go to great links to make me look wrong and that is Ok also. So here is what I say to "As you wish" conversation done.

I don't know where you're getting that at all. I was merely asking for some clarification and challenging your apparent assertion that there are actually different Spirits of God, rather than just one.

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