Creation/Adam/otherpeople

[e lansing]

In light of the Cain and Able thread, i have reread Gen 1, 2 and have some other questions regarding other people in the event of creation. Could it be possible that God could have created other people before of at the same time He created Adam? In Gen 1:31 it appears that creation was complete at this point. It also seems to confirm this in Gen 2:1. I have heard that Genesis 1 is a overview. IT seems to me that it appears as it is, complete, and Adam was a special event. If God had created other people this would make more since in light of the incest question and be more consistent with what God demands today.

Could it be that in Gen 2:5 when is says that God had no one to tend His Garden, could it be it ment that He had no one that is directly connected to Him? Blood line to Jesus?

Not trying to start some cult!!! It appears to me that a lot of you are smarter that I, so I humbly ask

Edited January 13, 2010 by e lansing

[Ovedya]

In light of the Cain and Able thread, i have reread Gen 1, 2 and have some other questions regarding other people in the event of creation. Could it be possible that God could have created other people before of at the same time He created Adam? In Gen 1:31 it appears that creation was complete at this point. It also seems to confirm this in Gen 2:1. I have heard that Genesis 1 is a overview. IT seems to me that it appears as it is, complete, and Adam was a special event.

Could it be that in Gen 2:5 when is says that God had no one to tend His Garden, could it be it ment that He had no one that is directly connected to Him? Blood line to Jesus?

Not trying to start some cult!!! It appears to me that a lot of you are smarter that I, so I humbly ask

The simple most straightforward answer is: No. God created Adam and Eve only, there were no other human being created by God. It is according to God's economy and by His sovereignty that Jesus came from the "seed of man," of the Adamic race. Were it otherwise He could not have brought salvation to Adam's race.

[OneLight]

Genesis 1 was given as an overview of the day to day creation event where Genesis 2:4 tells us "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.", not a day by day recording.

God did not give his blessings to go forth and multiply until after Adam and Eve were removed from the Garden of Eden, and He gives no indication of any other people ever being created.

[Guest shiloh357]

In light of the Cain and Able thread, i have reread Gen 1, 2 and have some other questions regarding other people in the event of creation. Could it be possible that God could have created other people before of at the same time He created Adam?

No because then you would have two races of people, one descended from Adam and another descended from someone else. So you would have a redeemed race of humans and a race of humans outside redemption. Can you see the theological problems that creates?

[Trusting Jesus]

If you look in chapter 5 of Genesis you will see that the people lived long lives before the Flood. We are given the names of the lineage that is important to the point that God is making....following a line from the Fall through to Messiah.

And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:4-5

We don't know how many sons and daughters Adam had, but while he was having sons and daughters, his sons and daughters were also having children. So the population grew quickly. We think of marrying a sister or brother as something against God's will, and today it is. In those days, though, they had no choice and also God did not speak against it until He gave Moses the Law.

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Nathele

[e lansing]

So you would have a redeemed race of humans and a race of humans outside redemption. Can you see the theological problems that creates?

What do you mean "redeemed"? I believe that the only ones that are redeemed are those who have place there faith in Jesus. Do you mean something else? If God decided to speak some people into existence and decided to create Adam from the dirt and create Eve from Adams rib, anything could be possible with God. That being said, i do not see how this hurts Christianity as far as theological. What I have stated is pure speculation.

[Hunterpoet]

In light of the Cain and Able thread, i have reread Gen 1, 2 and have some other questions regarding other people in the event of creation. Could it be possible that God could have created other people before of at the same time He created Adam? In Gen 1:31 it appears that creation was complete at this point. It also seems to confirm this in Gen 2:1. I have heard that Genesis 1 is a overview. IT seems to me that it appears as it is, complete, and Adam was a special event.

Could it be that in Gen 2:5 when is says that God had no one to tend His Garden, could it be it ment that He had no one that is directly connected to Him? Blood line to Jesus?

Not trying to start some cult!!! It appears to me that a lot of you are smarter that I, so I humbly ask

The simple most straightforward answer is: No. God created Adam and Eve only, there were no other human being created by God. It is according to God's economy and by His sovereignty that Jesus came from the "seed of man," of the Adamic race. Were it otherwise He could not have brought salvation to Adam's race.

Ovedya....did Christ come from the seed of man or the seed of women...no man had any part in it, was Christ not conceived by the Holy Spirit.

[Guest LadyC]

In light of the Cain and Able thread, i have reread Gen 1, 2 and have some other questions regarding other people in the event of creation. Could it be possible that God could have created other people before of at the same time He created Adam? In Gen 1:31 it appears that creation was complete at this point. It also seems to confirm this in Gen 2:1. I have heard that Genesis 1 is a overview. IT seems to me that it appears as it is, complete, and Adam was a special event.

Could it be that in Gen 2:5 when is says that God had no one to tend His Garden, could it be it ment that He had no one that is directly connected to Him? Blood line to Jesus?

Not trying to start some cult!!! It appears to me that a lot of you are smarter that I, so I humbly ask

The simple most straightforward answer is: No. God created Adam and Eve only, there were no other human being created by God. It is according to God's economy and by His sovereignty that Jesus came from the "seed of man," of the Adamic race. Were it otherwise He could not have brought salvation to Adam's race.

Ovedya....did Christ come from the seed of man or the seed of women...no man had any part in it, was Christ not conceived by the Holy Spirit.

Christ came from the seed of a woman, concieved by the Holy Spirit. but mary came from the seed of a MAN. the genealogy of Christ is still through the paternal line. actually, scripture gives the accounts from both lines, mary's and josephs, which was necessary in order that his legitimacy stood up both biologically and legally.

[nebula]

In light of the Cain and Able thread, i have reread Gen 1, 2 and have some other questions regarding other people in the event of creation. Could it be possible that God could have created other people before of at the same time He created Adam? In Gen 1:31 it appears that creation was complete at this point. It also seems to confirm this in Gen 2:1. I have heard that Genesis 1 is a overview. IT seems to me that it appears as it is, complete, and Adam was a special event. If God had created other people this would make more since in light of the incest question and be more consistent with what God demands today.

Could it be that in Gen 2:5 when is says that God had no one to tend His Garden, could it be it ment that He had no one that is directly connected to Him? Blood line to Jesus?

Not trying to start some cult!!! It appears to me that a lot of you are smarter that I, so I humbly ask

There is a lot that can be speculated about Creation and the early years on account that relatively speaking, so little information is given.

(Case in point - there is no mention of when the mountains were formed).

Genesis 1 is laid out quite interesting. Pay attention to which days involved something being made versus two things being separated. Now that is an interesting study!

And of course, trying to fit the fossils into the Creation account - well, the Scriptures are not clear about these. (Yes I know AIG and the like have whipped up their explanations, but it is as much speculation as what the mainstream scientists have whipped up.

And no one knows for sure what the Bible meant by the "Nephalim" (even though people claim they have the answer, they don't - valid reasons maybe, not it still isn't proof positive).

So basically, anything is possible. Now what is probable or likely - that's different!

Being in the sciences, I am a little more open to other possibilities - from the perspective that Genesis is more interested in theology than world history - or Gaia history . But then again, I am not concerned with how it all fits together because I have accepted that there truly is no way of knowing for sure.

What matters most is that the message of the Gospel was established in, with, and through the foundation of the earth (seriously, the Gospel message is laid out clearly in Genesis 1 - you just have to know how to look for it) and that God made man with whom He desires relationship with (and from whom we are descended). The rest . . . is all fluff.

[Guest shiloh357]

So you would have a redeemed race of humans and a race of humans outside redemption. Can you see the theological problems that creates?

What do you mean "redeemed"? I believe that the only ones that are redeemed are those who have place there faith in Jesus. Do you mean something else? If God decided to speak some people into existence and decided to create Adam from the dirt and create Eve from Adams rib, anything could be possible with God. That being said, i do not see how this hurts Christianity as far as theological. What I have stated is pure speculation.

What I mean is that the only people who qualify for redemption are the fallen race of Adam. Sin passed from Adam to his descendents (Rom. 5:12-23)

Now, if God creates another human that are not descended from Adam, you potentially have a race of humans who were not subject to the fall. Jesus died for the descendents of Adam. What do you do with those who were created separately from Adam? I think the problem is pretty self-evident.

The Bible does not present us with such a scenario. The only people God created were Adam and Eve and all other human beings (Cain's wife included) are descended from them.

"Anything" is not possible with God. That is not really true if you break it down. All things are possible with God to the extent that they do not compromise His character.