An encouraging word I received Wed.

[alex73]

'' Trust the self God sees you to be''

Because He sees us in white raiments as Priests & Kings. Not through a glass darkly which is where we view things from.

Don't let your view of yourself & failings be what you hold on to or walk out your daily life from.

Don't beat yourself up, look up & see Him looking at you as He always has.

Edited January 16, 2010 by alex73

[alex73]

I have had a bible based motto such as '' Trust no 'man' , pointing at me first.

But that isn't what God would say about those who have been infilled by His spirit.

The subject of Speaking out the God Word that indwells us. I think may have led me to hear this.

I've been reading, questioning & making notes from David Yogii Cho's ''The Forth Dimension''.Vol.1. sub:-'' Discovering a new world of answered prayer.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Yonggi_Cho

I read it, went back over it underlining as I went.

I have never been so refreshed or encouraged to press on with any other book but the bible.

This book carries with it such depth of understanding & revelation.

This is how I see it, it's not the writer but I believe he has the gift of conveying what is in him from experience, which glorifies God.

[alex73]

Googled===>Colossians 1:26-27 Christ in you

[~candice~]

'' Trust the self God sees you to be''

Pro 3:5-6 MKJV Trust in Jehovah with all your heart, and lean not to your own understanding. 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct your paths.

I don't trust me, my faith is in God .

[B3L13v3R]

Hi Alex73

Here are a few things to consider.

Paul (David) Yonggi Cho mixes Biblical Christianity with a lot of other "extra" Biblical techniques. He is very much into "Word of Faith" doctrines. Some of these WOF doctrines contain MANY things OUTSIDE of the Bible. Things such as visualization, (if you visualize hard enough YOU incubate and birth to physical reality the outcome YOU desired) positive confession and thinking,(the old adage "Name it and Claim it" come to mind.) etc.

Cultic Eastern Mysticism mixed with Christianity... In all actuality, much of this same mindset has permeated a number of churches with these false teachings.

A few brothers in the Lord had these quotes from the book you are referring to.

"If Buddhists and Yoga practitioners can accomplish their objectives through fourth dimensional powers, then Christians should be able to accomplish much more by using the same means. (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, vol. 1, 1979, pp.37, 41)

[JHERB]

Amen

[alex73]

Hi Alex73

Here are a few things to consider.

Paul (David) Yonggi Cho mixes Biblical Christianity with a lot of other "extra" Biblical techniques. He is very much into "Word of Faith" doctrines. Some of these WOF doctrines contain MANY things OUTSIDE of the Bible. Things such as visualization, (if you visualize hard enough YOU incubate and birth to physical reality the outcome YOU desired) positive confession and thinking,(the old adage "Name it and Claim it" come to mind.) etc.

Cultic Eastern Mysticism mixed with Christianity... In all actuality, much of this same mindset has permeated a number of churches with these false teachings.

A few brothers in the Lord had these quotes from the book you are referring to.

"If Buddhists and Yoga practitioners can accomplish their objectives through fourth dimensional powers, then Christians should be able to accomplish much more by using the same means. (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, vol. 1, 1979, pp.37, 41)

[OneLight]

><> ><> I've now been through the book with a fine tooth comb prayerfully. I agree with most of it. Are there many ''Christian '' books that you can say that about. Do try not to be overly biased it may keep you from a blessing. God has spoken through asses, & you & me at times hasn't he?????

Since you fail to see the warnings others have brought to you, may I ask you to bring forth the teachings that you agree with so we can discuss them one at a time? Let's discuss the teachings and not the teacher ...

[alex73]

><> ><> I've now been through the book with a fine tooth comb prayerfully. I agree with most of it. Are there many ''Christian '' books that you can say that about. Do try not to be overly biased it may keep you from a blessing. God has spoken through asses, & you & me at times hasn't he?????

Since you fail to see the warnings others have brought to you, may I ask you to bring forth the teachings that you agree with so we can discuss them one at a time? Let's discuss the teachings and not the teacher ...

><> ><>

Just a reminder ==>

All the heroes of faith were flawed one way or another, Peter & Mark made mistakes. The writers of ''Christian'' books are likewise flawed as are those who ''Give'' out the Word.

We all have our axe to grind, our opinion to give & we all come to sites such as this with baggage. Bias, prejudice, bad fellowship, Church 0r ministry experiences.

Yonggi Cho's 4th. Dimension. Vol.1.

P age (P.) 2. para 1 =

Use you faith efficiently. Have clear cut visions/goals of what that use will achieve. Declare your full confidence in God or the answer be it '' No'', ''Not yet'' or ''Yes'' will be vague.

P.4 para 3. Your less likely to have answers to ill defined prayers to meet your full expectations & P.12,13,14.

P.5 para 2. Faith can strengthen as you wait for answers. They mature as does wine. Hab. 2:3. Rom. 4:17.

P. 7 para 2. The essence of your prayer needs to mature & clarify as faith, for the result to become envisioned reality.

P.8. Your prayer words describe the reality of your vision which has been instilled by the Holy Spirit. As para 3 Page 4.

P.17. Para 5. as Heb 11:1.

P.20. Para 3,4,5. The Holy Spirit acts in unison & to an equal degree, to our acts of faith. Work out your queries in meditation in The Word & pray before seeking help from others.

A Word that was put into my heart at this point in my reading was, ''Trust the self that Jesus sees you to be.'' lean not on your own view of yourself. Your spoken word; as a Holy Spirit filled Christian, will bear His imprint.

P.21. We can, with faith (Trust in the Holy Spirit.) beyond our own basic human level command mountains to throw themselves into the sea.

P. 23.Para 3. Christ in me the hope of Glory. ***I don't believe that the Holy Spirit follows ''After'' our act of obedience but with us as we move in faith.

P.57. Para 1. There is a release of God's power as words of praise readings or ''Knowledge'' are spoken out (God breathed) But I can't see that that is dependent on us alone.

Para 2. Don't beg or stew over your thoughts. Give out ''The Word'', to exhalt, motivate, refreash, & encourage.

Para. 3,4. Don't miss the blessing & release of; as far as man can tell, the word you have been entrusted with.

P.64. Para 5. We have the responsibility to release the Holy Spirit to meet spacific needs that God prompts us to fullfil.

P.84 Para 4. A Rhema word is a ''Go'', action & prompting word to the individual. See Pet.3:1-4.

[alex73]

><> ><> I've now been through the book with a fine tooth comb prayerfully. I agree with most of it. Are there many ''Christian '' books that you can say that about. Do try not to be overly biased it may keep you from a blessing. God has spoken through asses, & you & me at times hasn't he?????

Since you fail to see the warnings others have brought to you, may I ask you to bring forth the teachings that you agree with so we can discuss them one at a time? Let's discuss the teachings and not the teacher ...

><> ><> #1 What was the warning about especially. I don't note that I spoke about the writter but about what was written & that which I felt tied into the Word.

Edited January 26, 2010 by alex73