Who here has seen?

[Permie]

Grace to you,

Permie,

which isn't to say that Christ is limited to bi-location alone.

Please explain and unpack this statement and thought for me.

Do you know "Messager85" who also posts here?

Peace,

Dave

Sure, when I wrote that I was thinking of all the individuals, untold numbers, whom are living in the body of Christ and, since we have the tendency to look upon ourselves as individual units with Christ working through us... that is what I was thinking. I probably could have said it better previously. Even so, Jesus, Our High Priest, I have no doubt can also be in several places at once... more than two.

I have not met Messager85 prior to coming to this forum. I did see his thread that was removed, but prior to completely reading it I wrote to him to ask him for a favor: to make more paragraphs and to increase the font size. Which he was willing to do, but didn't have the opportunity to do so.

So, I am aware of him, but do not know him yet.

Thank you and Peace be with you, Dave.

With the love of Christ,

Permie

[OneLight]

Onelight,

I am afraid that I do not completely follow your statements. Are you saying that Jesus came to you in the flesh, as if you were able to touch Him? When you say that Jesus taught you for three years straight, how was this done? Was it through the Holy Spirit? You also say you spoke to the Father a few times. Was this verbally or just through prayer? You make some amazing claims and I don't want to assume that I know what you mean by them.

You are right. These are amazing claims, and it is only just recently that I have become able to speak more freely about them, which I think you understand the hesitancy in doing this.

Some of what you have asked may take a long reply to address properly. I do plan to make a testimonial before long, and maybe answers to your questions will be shown there. For now, yes, Jesus came in the flesh. We talked and at the end of the visit we embraced and told one another I love you. There was a witness to this, and just as it is shown in the bible, it was not known immediately that that was Jesus, but only afterwards as we began to talk of what had just happened. It was an unusual event.

Are there others that you know who claim to of spent time with Jesus, in the physical realm?

[exrockstar]

There are, I believe, many wondrous and glorious things awaiting the new born and born again believer.

Some of these things might include having seen and conversed with angels and also having seen and conversed with Christ Jesus.

let me guess....you speak in tongues?

[Permie]

Onelight,

I am afraid that I do not completely follow your statements. Are you saying that Jesus came to you in the flesh, as if you were able to touch Him? When you say that Jesus taught you for three years straight, how was this done? Was it through the Holy Spirit? You also say you spoke to the Father a few times. Was this verbally or just through prayer? You make some amazing claims and I don't want to assume that I know what you mean by them.

You are right. These are amazing claims, and it is only just recently that I have become able to speak more freely about them, which I think you understand the hesitancy in doing this.

Some of what you have asked may take a long reply to address properly. I do plan to make a testimonial before long, and maybe answers to your questions will be shown there. For now, yes, Jesus came in the flesh. We talked and at the end of the visit we embraced and told one another I love you. There was a witness to this, and just as it is shown in the bible, it was not known immediately that that was Jesus, but only afterwards as we began to talk of what had just happened. It was an unusual event.

Are there others that you know who claim to of spent time with Jesus, in the physical realm?

Do you mean that I personally know? No there isn't. The witness I spoke of ... they couldn't remain in the same room, they kept breaking down crying. This person tried over and over to be there, but when they returned they would start crying again and then leaving over and over.

Edit to add: I didn't know that this was happening to them until later. While I did notice that they repeatedly left, my focus was on Jesus and didn't notice their tears.

If you meant other examples of this occurring, then yes, the bible does have examples of this occurring.

Edited January 19, 2010 by Permie

[Permie]

There are, I believe, many wondrous and glorious things awaiting the new born and born again believer.

Some of these things might include having seen and conversed with angels and also having seen and conversed with Christ Jesus.

let me guess....you speak in tongues?

LOL, I use my tongue to speak, and don't mind if others do... afterall, the bible tells us that it is self edifying. We all need to be edified, don't you agree? Some may need tongues, some may not. I personally don't think it is a sign of having salvation and the Holy Spirit.

[OneLight]

LOL, I use my tongue to speak, and don't mind if others do... afterall, the bible tells us that it is self edifying. We all need to be edified, don't you agree? Some may need tongues, some may not. I personally don't think it is a sign of having salvation and the Holy Spirit.

Can you elaborate more on the underlined statement? To be more clear of what I am asking, are tongues, or the gift of tongues as he meant, from the Holy Spirit?

[Permie]

LOL, I use my tongue to speak, and don't mind if others do... afterall, the bible tells us that it is self edifying. We all need to be edified, don't you agree? Some may need tongues, some may not. I personally don't think it is a sign of having salvation and the Holy Spirit.

Can you elaborate more on the underlined statement? To be more clear of what I am asking, are tongues, or the gift of tongues as he meant, from the Holy Spirit?

I don't know what he meant.

The bible speaks clearly enough for me regarding tongues. This debate over tongues has been done to death and it can get ugly from what I have observed; for this reason I have nothing to add.

[CBE1]

There are, I believe, many wondrous and glorious things awaiting the new born and born again believer.

Some of these things might include having seen and conversed with angels and also having seen and conversed with Christ Jesus.

Are there any here whom have?

To be fair, I'll answer my own question first: Yes, both.

So! Let's share and also if you want, speak of that which St. Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.in the glories that God has performed.

To God always be the praise, the glory and the power forever!

It is nice to find people who both know the Lord and His Kingdom!!

[Permie]

There are, I believe, many wondrous and glorious things awaiting the new born and born again believer.

Some of these things might include having seen and conversed with angels and also having seen and conversed with Christ Jesus.

Are there any here whom have?

To be fair, I'll answer my own question first: Yes, both.

So! Let's share and also if you want, speak of that which St. Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.in the glories that God has performed.

To God always be the praise, the glory and the power forever!

It is nice to find people who both know the Lord and His Kingdom!!

God is good!

Welcome to worthy, CBE1

[CBE1]

There are, I believe, many wondrous and glorious things awaiting the new born and born again believer.

Some of these things might include having seen and conversed with angels and also having seen and conversed with Christ Jesus.

Are there any here whom have?

To be fair, I'll answer my own question first: Yes, both.

So! Let's share and also if you want, speak of that which St. Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 3:18

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.in the glories that God has performed.

To God always be the praise, the glory and the power forever!

It is nice to find people who both know the Lord and His Kingdom!!

God is good!

Welcome to worthy, CBE1

Thank you. It is always nice to find people that indeed know the Lord