Delight in the Law

[Guest]

Yes, you're right. I didn't say the OT was valueless. The Law became obsolete when Jesus came ,though. He gave us 2 commandments to replace them;

1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart ,mind,and soul.

2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

To See The Law

Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.

Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;

(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 6:13-15

And The Lawman

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

One Has But To Look

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: Deuteronomy 6:4-6

Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18

Into The Big Book Of Jesus

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Mark 12:29-31

You

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Matthew 4:4

See

I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight.

Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me. Psalms 119:174-175

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

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God Gave

For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Leviticus 17:11

His Only Begotten Son

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

And I Can Only Cry Out And Repent And Bow Down And Rejoice In His Pure And Priceless Love

And Praise Him For Salvation Is His Name

Glory To The KING

Amen ~

[Joshua-777]

David loved the law of the Lord. Ps 119 continually emphasis this fact.

Psa 119:70 Their heart is without feeling, like fat; but I delight in Your Law.

Psa 119:77 Let Your tender mercies come to me so that I may live; for Your Law is my delight.

Psa 119:92 Unless Your Law had been my delight, I should then have perished in my affliction.

Seems to be a bit of a foreign concept these days. Do we still delight in the law? I delight when I see glimpses of Christ in the feasts and sacrifices. I delight when I see a reflection of the gospel in creation the account of creation.

I think nowadays the law is seen as bad or antiquated or irrelevant. But thinking that Yeshua upheld the law, rather than destroy the law, really drives home (to me) that there is inherent goodness about it. It is God's law! God did not make an evil thing.

So what is it about the law that you delight in, and how? What feature of the law do you think David was delighting in, given that David had not seen or heard about Yeshua?

The Law is so Old Testament. I delight when I see Jesus, or should I see I see Jesus through someone's kind actions or deeds.

huh? You don't see Jesus in the OT? The OT is not valueless...

Yes, you're right. I didn't say the OT was valuless. The Law became obsolete when Jesus came ,though. He gave us 2 commandments to replace them;

1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart ,mind,and soul.

2. Love your neighbor as yourself.

Yeshua was not saying anything new at all but quoting from Due. 6 and Lev. He did not replace anything except the priesthood and the need for sacrifices. Yeshua filled up the law, He fulfilled it by showing us how we can fulfill it, when we love as He taught us to love we are fulfilling His Torah. If God says 'If you love me keep my commandments' shouldn't we doing that? Since these are not new commandments but Him showing that all things must come through love, that without love in ones heart not one bit of the law can be walked out shouldn't we be keeping His commandments?

shalom,

Mizz

I agree Mizzy, when Jesus said Love Your God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself, He was answering a Pharasee who asked him what the greatest commandments were, not giving a new commandments.

He did give us two new commands to live by. That we Trust in His name, and that we love eachother as He loves us. The love He commands us to live by is more than the command to love one another in Torah, He wants us to love like He loves us which we can only do through the power of Holy Spirit working in us.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.

[mizzdy]

Yeshua was not saying anything new at all but quoting from Due. 6 and Lev. He did not replace anything except the priesthood and the need for sacrifices. Yeshua filled up the law, He fulfilled it by showing us how we can fulfill it, when we love as He taught us to love we are fulfilling His Torah. If God says 'If you love me keep my commandments' shouldn't we doing that? Since these are not new commandments but Him showing that all things must come through love, that without love in ones heart not one bit of the law can be walked out shouldn't we be keeping His commandments?

shalom,

Mizz

I agree Mizzy, when Jesus said Love Your God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself, He was answering a Pharasee who asked him what the greatest commandments were, not giving a new commandments.

He did give us two new commands to live by. That we Trust in His name, and that we love eachother as He loves us. The love He commands us to live by is more than the command to love one another in Torah, He wants us to love like He loves us which we can only do through the power of Holy Spirit working in us.

John 13:34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.

[Dotsoav]

David loved the law of the Lord. Ps 119 continually emphasis this fact.

Psa 119:70 Their heart is without feeling, like fat; but I delight in Your Law.

Psa 119:77 Let Your tender mercies come to me so that I may live; for Your Law is my delight.

Psa 119:92 Unless Your Law had been my delight, I should then have perished in my affliction.

Seems to be a bit of a foreign concept these days. Do we still delight in the law? I delight when I see glimpses of Christ in the feasts and sacrifices. I delight when I see a reflection of the gospel in creation the account of creation.

I think nowadays the law is seen as bad or antiquated or irrelevant. But thinking that Yeshua upheld the law, rather than destroy the law, really drives home (to me) that there is inherent goodness about it. It is God's law! God did not make an evil thing.

So what is it about the law that you delight in, and how? What feature of the law do you think David was delighting in, given that David had not seen or heard about Yeshua?

The Law of GOD

WE ALL SHOULD DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW OF GOD NOT OF MAN NOR FROM MAN SO IF WE BELIEVE THAT GOD IS LOVE THEN WE WOULD BELIEVE THAT THE LAW OF GOD IS ABOUT LOVE FIRST LOVE OF GOD THEN SELF AND OTHERS. WE SEE THAT LOVE IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW.

Ro 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Ro 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Ga 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Jas 2:8 ¶ If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

[Believer112]

David loved the law of the Lord. Ps 119 continually emphasis this fact.

Psa 119:70 Their heart is without feeling, like fat; but I delight in Your Law.

Psa 119:77 Let Your tender mercies come to me so that I may live; for Your Law is my delight.

Psa 119:92 Unless Your Law had been my delight, I should then have perished in my affliction.

Seems to be a bit of a foreign concept these days. Do we still delight in the law? I delight when I see glimpses of Christ in the feasts and sacrifices. I delight when I see a reflection of the gospel in creation the account of creation.

I think nowadays the law is seen as bad or antiquated or irrelevant. But thinking that Yeshua upheld the law, rather than destroy the law, really drives home (to me) that there is inherent goodness about it. It is God's law! God did not make an evil thing.

So what is it about the law that you delight in, and how? What feature of the law do you think David was delighting in, given that David had not seen or heard about Yeshua?

The Law of GOD

WE ALL SHOULD DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW OF GOD NOT OF MAN NOR FROM MAN SO IF WE BELIEVE THAT GOD IS LOVE THEN WE WOULD BELIEVE THAT THE LAW OF GOD IS ABOUT LOVE FIRST LOVE OF GOD THEN SELF AND OTHERS. WE SEE THAT LOVE IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW.

Ro 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Ro 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Ga 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Jas 2:8 ¶ If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

If we could truly love God and our neighbor it would be virtually impossible to violate the ten commandments.

[Joshua-777]

2 Corinthians 3:4 And we have such trust through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, 6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Glory of the New Covenant

7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— 13 unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.

[JohnD]

I am going to tell you somthing few Christians know, most Jews reject, and most Messianics also reject...

There are two laws as well as two covenants. And each law governs each covenant respectively.

1 Corinthians 9:19-21 (NIV)

19 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible.

20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law.

21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.

This is not double talk. Rabbi Shaul b' Tarsis (rising star in the Sanhedrin till he met Christ on the road to Damascus) said he is not under "the Law" (Torah, and more specifically the Torah of Moses)... but that he was bound to the law of God (the Torah of Elohiym or Torah of the Messiah).

There is one other mention of this directly:

Galatians 6:2 (NIV)

2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.

Indirectly / under the text... throughout the Bible in many examples.

Joshua 24:26 (NIV)

26 And Joshua recorded these things in the Book of the Law of God. Then he took a large stone and set it up there under the oak near the holy place of the LORD.

This alone ought to make the alarm in our heads go off.

If this was referring to Torah Moshe (the Law of Moses) then Moses did not write the Torah all by himself. He had help from at least one other person, his successor Joshua.

Or,

...it was another book entirely... contained within the Word of God the book of Joshua... indicating that the Law of God is outside the Torah Moshe and that the Torah Moshe is a compartment with the Word of God. It is also prophetic of another Joshua (Jesus) writing the Law of the Lord outside of the Law of Moses.

Notice also:

Jeremiah 31:31-34 (NIV)

31 “The time is coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.

33 “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put M Y L A W in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.

34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the LORD. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”

Do a word search for:

the law of God,

God's law,

the law of the Lord

my law

notice how it often not always but often contrasts with the Law of Moses (Torah).

The Law of God / Messiah is to the Torah as the Law of aerodynamics is to the law of gravity. Both still intact yet accomplishing different things. Paul mentions that the letter of the law kills (condemns) but the Spirit brings life. You reject the Law of Christ and you are going to be condemned by the Law of Moses.

So, Christianity unbeknownst to most is not about lawlessness. And you will find the passages that condemn for opposing the Law are referring either to the Law of God or indirectly to the Torah which is either to condemn us or lead us to Christ.

Galatians 3:24-25 (NIV)

24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.

25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

Galatians 3:24-25 (JohnDB)

24 So the law (of Moses) was put in charge to lead us to (the law of) Christ that we might be justified by faith.

25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law (of Moses).