Is God against setting goals?

[Blien]

You've taken this out of context Steven. My purpose in creating this topic has nothing to do about giving or tithing.. I just want to know if God has any thoughts or principles in the Bible on setting goals while we are living here, on this earth. We put things in eternal perspective making sure that we think about Eternal gains and loss... but what about our lives on this planet?

1. Are we to live day-to-day aimlessly about? Just counting in God's provision everyday? Always afraid to take the next step because it may or may not be the Lords will?

2. Or are we to count on Gods provision every day yet making plans to conquer cities and towns and overtaking them while entering into the promised land above (..Heaven)?

Which one is it? To live with goals, or without them????

[OneLight]

You've taken this out of context Steven. My purpose in creating this topic has nothing to do about giving or tithing.. I just want to know if God has any thoughts or principles in the Bible on setting goals while we are living here, on this earth. We put things in eternal perspective making sure that we think about Eternal gains and loss... but what about our lives on this planet?

1. Are we to live day-to-day aimlessly about? Just counting in God's provision everyday? Always afraid to take the next step because it may or may not be the Lords will?

2. Or are we to count on Gods provision every day yet making plans to conquer cities and towns and overtaking them while entering into the promised land above (..Heaven)?

Which one is it? To live with goals, or without them????

Why one extreme of the other? What about somewhere in the middle?

For me, I set plans and allow Him to make them come true, if they are of Him. I have no high goals, just what is necessary to get by and do His work. This, I am content with.

[Guest yod]

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[Isaiah 6:8]

I think goals are fine, depending on the goals, no I do not have scriptural back up but I do have an example. If you set a goal to be closer to him, or a goal to bring more people to him, is this wrong? So other goals are a good thing, a goal to get out of debt, like I have, is not a bad thing as debt is warned against in the Word. So setting a goal, planning your steps is not a bad thing, as long as you let Him direct your steps.

[georgedrw81]

man makes his plans and the Lord directs His steps...

Right

[OneLight]

Often it's a matter of progressive revelation, brother. As you are faithful in the small things, he will give you more..but until you've done the small things, He may not give anything at all.

And there are also the times of testing where you have to trust in doing what you know is His will. In other words, when faced with a decision, you choose the one that most honors Him and then you find out why it happened this way.

Amen!

[~candice~]

Often it's a matter of progressive revelation, brother. As you are faithful in the small things, he will give you more..but until you've done the small things, He may not give anything at all.

And there are also the times of testing where you have to trust in doing what you know is His will. In other words, when faced with a decision, you choose the one that most honors Him and then you find out why it happened this way.

Right, and I agree. I would also add that sometimes, the answer is given to us in the Word, and it is hidden and we need to diligently search for it and study to find it.

Waiting for a loud booming voice from heaven to tell you whether or not to marry an unbeliever is not wise, because God has already answered that question . Similarly, I believe He has given us guidelines to follow in the Word that we are to apply to situations. His directions for us, will never contradict what He has already said.

[Blien]

Okay, so what about in terms of Careers?

[Isaiah 6:8]

Personally again, only in my humble opinion, is this, regarding your current situation, The same thing. Plan your steps but let him direct your paths, and if your unemployed and in debt then anything that takes care of you and your family that is your career goal for the moment, once that is taken care of even if its a menial job, then you can focus on what other goals you may have.

[enoob57]

You've taken this out of context Steven. My purpose in creating this topic has nothing to do about giving or tithing.. I just want to know if God has any thoughts or principles in the Bible on setting goals while we are living here, on this earth. We put things in eternal perspective making sure that we think about Eternal gains and loss... but what about our lives on this planet?

1. Are we to live day-to-day aimlessly about? Just counting in God's provision everyday? Always afraid to take the next step because it may or may not be the Lords will?

Blien I am very abstract at times and mean no harm by it! Intresting comment you have made here in bold! Pointedly it was Christ's # 1 priority The Father's Will be done.

I have began this type of living fully realizing that in my own effort I will miss the mark. I will fashion my life after the one He (Christ) lived instead of the one the world fashion for me. I do not expect to be widely accepted but it was the advice of Paul-

1 Cor 11:1

Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.

NKJV

2. Or are we to count on Gods provision every day yet making plans to conquer cities and towns and overtaking them while entering into the promised land above (..Heaven)?

You sound like Napoleon

If I have planned to set myself to follow His Still small voice that would be a goal? Yes?

Which one is it? To live with goals, or without them????

for me one goal that is to die to self and live for Him. The really great truth is we shall stand before Him and give an account of ourselves to Him. Therefore we work out our salvation in fear and trembling because He has set a mark that can only be attained through the working of Himself.

Phil 3:12-20

12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.

15 Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you. 16 Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.

17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. 18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame