Need Original Word-Matthew 13:31-32

[stormy612]

I don't have a resource to find this out myself yet. Can anyone tell me what the original word used for the "birds of the air" in this verse? I'd like to know if it does mean "evil ones" or not. Thank you in advance.

Matthew 13:31,32-

"Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field. Which indeed is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof." KJV

Here is the KJV Study Bible's Notes on Matthew 13:31,32 :

13:31,32. See Mark 4:30-34; Luke 13:18, 19. The mustard seed is unusually small and yet grows to a great size. The idea seems to be that the tiny beginning of the church will eventually culminate in great growth. Herbs (Gr. lachanon) are garden plants or vegetables. However, such numerical growth will come to harbor the birds (evil ones). The parable accordingly foreshawos the growth of the church into a wold power. However, outward growth is not always a true picture of spiritual depth.

[Blien]

You can also look it up on net.bible.org.

Just put in the verse you want to look up on the left side and hit search. When it comes up, scroll all the way down the page and put your mouse over "birds of the air".. it will give you the meaning in a pop-up box in the original Greek or Hebrew language, If you click on it, you'll get more information.

Here is what I got when I looked it up..

http://net.bible.org/strong.php?id=4071

from

http://net.bible.org/verse.php?search=Matt...13&verse=32

But yes.. nothing fishy about this one lol... may I ask who told you it means the evil one? I've never heard this one before. Its actually hilarious someone came up with that lol..

[Guest man]

may I ask who told you it means the evil one? I've never heard this one before. Its actually hilarious someone came up with that lol..

I heard the same thing many years ago. That's one of the reasons I quit listening to christian radio and watching religious TV programs.

[Smalcald]

I think it was originally from Alfred Hitchcock.

[stormy612]

Thank you so much Running Gator and Blien! I'll favorite the links right now!

Actually, I did hear the interpretation in a podcast from a local minister. I was shocked at his interpretation so God told me to look it up myself. Well, I went to my "trusty" KJV Study Bilble. I didn't think there would be a notation on that part of the verse but I was shocked to discover there was AND that it said "birds of the air (evil ones)". It did not give me a reference to the original word though. Is it common for a 'study bible' to be that wrong? I mean, I totally trust the Holy Spirit to interpret God's word, but I did kind of trust the language experts. And I'm pretty sure this study bible is a fairly common and widely used bible. I could be wrong about that though.

The King James Study Bible (previously published as The Liberty Annotated Study Bible and as The Annotated Study Bible, King James Version) Copyright 1988 by Liberty University

Study helps by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

This is the info on the inside jacket.

I'm going to assume then, that the minister I heard has the same bible, but since he's been to bible college and ordained, shouldn't he know the original meaning of the original word?

Thank you again!

[stormy612]

I don't have a resource to find this out myself yet. Can anyone tell me what the original word used for the "birds of the air" in this verse? I'd like to know if it does mean "evil ones" or not. Thank you in advance.

Matthew 13:31,32-

"Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field. Which indeed is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof." KJV

Here is the KJV Study Bible's Notes on Matthew 13:31,32 :

13:31,32. See Mark 4:30-34; Luke 13:18, 19. The mustard seed is unusually small and yet grows to a great size. The idea seems to be that the tiny beginning of the church will eventually culminate in great growth. Herbs (Gr. lachanon) are garden plants or vegetables. However, such numerical growth will come to harbor the birds (evil ones). The parable accordingly foreshawos the growth of the church into a wold power. However, outward growth is not always a true picture of spiritual depth.

from matt 13

the word is

peteinon

It means

1. flying, winged

2. flying or winged animals, birds

a.the birds of the heaven, i.e. flying in the heaven

Would you mind if I quoted you back in my original post-General Discussion-Perception...What's True? ? I would like the others to see the original word too.

[nebula]

Here is the KJV Study Bible's Notes on Matthew 13:31,32 :

13:31,32. See Mark 4:30-34; Luke 13:18, 19. The mustard seed is unusually small and yet grows to a great size. The idea seems to be that the tiny beginning of the church will eventually culminate in great growth. Herbs (Gr. lachanon) are garden plants or vegetables. However, such numerical growth will come to harbor the birds (evil ones). The parable accordingly foreshawos the growth of the church into a wold power. However, outward growth is not always a true picture of spiritual depth.

That's bizarre. They mixed two parables in their interpretation.

It is incorrect to assume that "birds" always refer to evil ones just because one parable uses them this way. (How do they handle Jesus referencing birds in His sermon about God's provision?)

The use of birds to represent evil ones was used in the Parable of the Sower - where the birds ate the seed.

In this parable, Jesus is emphasizing the power of the Kingdom of Heaven - how the small seed can produce a plant so large even birds can find shelter there.

In addition, it is incorrect to insert the word "church" for "the Kingdom of God." There is more to the Kingdom of God than just the body of Believers.

[OneLight]

I don't have a resource to find this out myself yet. Can anyone tell me what the original word used for the "birds of the air" in this verse? I'd like to know if it does mean "evil ones" or not. Thank you in advance.

Matthew 13:31,32-

"Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field. Which indeed is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof." KJV

Here is the KJV Study Bible's Notes on Matthew 13:31,32 :

13:31,32. See Mark 4:30-34; Luke 13:18, 19. The mustard seed is unusually small and yet grows to a great size. The idea seems to be that the tiny beginning of the church will eventually culminate in great growth. Herbs (Gr. lachanon) are garden plants or vegetables. However, such numerical growth will come to harbor the birds (evil ones). The parable accordingly foreshawos the growth of the church into a wold power. However, outward growth is not always a true picture of spiritual depth.

from matt 13

the word is

peteinon

It means

1. flying, winged

2. flying or winged animals, birds

a.the birds of the heaven, i.e. flying in the heaven

I would like to add: Ezek 17:23; Ps 104:12; Ezek 31:6; Dan 4:12

You mentioned in your first thread that you have been taught one way, then by hearing just one other teaching, you are confused. May I suggest that you take time to become a solid bible student so you are not so easily swayed too and fro by strange doctrines and teachings.

God Bless,

Alan

[stormy612]

I don't have a resource to find this out myself yet. Can anyone tell me what the original word used for the "birds of the air" in this verse? I'd like to know if it does mean "evil ones" or not. Thank you in advance.

Matthew 13:31,32-

"Another parable put He forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field. Which indeed is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof." KJV

Here is the KJV Study Bible's Notes on Matthew 13:31,32 :

13:31,32. See Mark 4:30-34; Luke 13:18, 19. The mustard seed is unusually small and yet grows to a great size. The idea seems to be that the tiny beginning of the church will eventually culminate in great growth. Herbs (Gr. lachanon) are garden plants or vegetables. However, such numerical growth will come to harbor the birds (evil ones). The parable accordingly foreshawos the growth of the church into a wold power. However, outward growth is not always a true picture of spiritual depth.

from matt 13

the word is

peteinon

It means

1. flying, winged

2. flying or winged animals, birds

a.the birds of the heaven, i.e. flying in the heaven

I would like to add: Ezek 17:23; Ps 104:12; Ezek 31:6; Dan 4:12

You mentioned in your first thread that you have been taught one way, then by hearing just one other teaching, you are confused. May I suggest that you take time to become a solid bible student so you are not so easily swayed too and fro by strange doctrines and teachings.

God Bless,

Alan

Thank you for the add ins. And yep. I am too easily swayed. The last two days God kept lighting up the word "Simple" in reference to wisdom, meaning easily influenced. I know He used this incident as an attention getter. I've always read His word and let the Holy Spirit interpret it (nothing wrong with that) but I think I've become too...comfortable? with that. He is taking me in a new direction and I believe He wants me to become more diligent in my studies than I have been. Wherever He is taking me, its important. He's raising me up, but He's also warning me. If I study His word with more than my usual care, I'll notice the false stuff when it comes. Satan's favorite torment for me is confusion. My feet are completely cemented in Jesus' rock solid foundation, but wow! The rest of me sure can get battered around!

[Nyoka]

stormy612 I use esword to help me determine what the original words are. If you use it as a guide to help you then it is a good resource to have. It is a free download and most add on's to it are free: http://www.e-sword.net/