Seven year tribulation . . .

[e lansing]

I will answer these questions, if you can tell me how to lift from old post and place them here.

e

There should be a "quote" button in the lower right corner of the post. Click that button and come back here and click "Add reply". Don't click on the post you're replying to. If you want that post included in your post, click the quote button.

It takes alittle getting used too.

Alrighty then! I will give it a try, I know i will mess it up, but i will get it right sooner or later. Thanks

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The temple of God is the thread I started and answerd you questions there!

[Axxman]

The foundation of the 7-year Trib is built on an understanding of the prophecy of Daniel 9. Depending on how you square that prophecy in your beliefs...it sets the stage for your beliefs in regards to everything else regarding the tribulation.

Daniel 9:24-27 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I am a dispensational pre-millennialists...a futurist...based on my understanding of this scripture.

[BlindSeeker]

The foundation of the 7-year Trib is built on an understanding of the prophecy of Daniel 9. Depending on how you square that prophecy in your beliefs...it sets the stage for your beliefs in regards to everything else regarding the tribulation.

Daniel 9:24-27 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

I am a dispensational pre-millennialists...a futurist...based on my understanding of this scripture.

Perhaps you could expound (not on you're being "a dispensational pre-millennialist").

Is there other witnesses of scripture to this theology you say is "built on an understanding of the prophecy of Daniel 9?" Certainly, there must be more scriptures that substantiates the 7 year tribulation. I find it odd that such a predominate and widely embraced end time teaching would have the foundation of only one passage.

Please, again I say, feel free to expound . . . and don't worry about length.

William

[Guest shiloh357]

The tribulation is known as "The Day of the Lord." Is. 2:12; 13:6-9; Joel 1:15; 2:1-31; 3:14; 1 Thess. 5:2.

That it is seven years long is based on Dan. 9:24-27.

That seven year period is divded up into two 3 1/2 year-long periods. The anti-Christ will confirm a covenant with Israel and break it after 3 1/2 years and set himself in the temple and declare himself to be God. The final 3 1/2 years will be characterized by intense persecution upon all of those who do not take the mark, followed by God's wrath on the anti-Christ and his one-world babylonian system.

[mizzdy]

LOL . . . thanks for responding Mizzdy.

Actually, the "where" was for where in scripture is this "agreement" mentioned?

Please do not be concerned about the length of your posts either.

I am not really sure there is other scriptures that show this, except maybe when Yeshua references (Matt. 24) the abominations spoken of there in Dan. 9, cht 9 is where the treaty is confirmed. For me its the 70 weeks, the building of the plaza and moat, nothing about the temple but just the plaza and moat for which I do not believe Israel had before, there was a 'moat' to the northern side of the wall I believe. Its interesting that the dig site around the temple mount is called the moat and the area around the wailing wall is called the plaza but that may mean nothing at all. 70 weeks are given and to me the resolution for Israel to become a nation starts those 70 shavuots, the 'confirming' of the agreement or covenant is probably nothing more than what the first one stated, a two nation system with Jersualem being for all religion under maybe the UN control but those are my opinions, I believe the UN resolution states that there would also be a palestinian state along side of Israel.

If that is so then this coming agreement isn't something really new but something rehashed or confirmed. The word here is seen as something made strong, to prevail and when an agreement is finally reached over an existing agreement its not really made 'new' just made stronger or renewed it. Since it is the beginning of this last weeks or 7 year period and during a 3 1/2 year period we know that the power of the holy people will be shattered (Dan.12:7) which seems to me to be a terrible period like no one has seen before, it kinda all fits together for a seven year period with a three and a half year trib. When I look at this with the view of the Feasts it makes sense. And whether people think the Feasts and the Sabbaths are relevant or not they are to God and He uses His things for guidepost after all when Israel was taken into captivity it was because they refused to keep the commandments and had forsaken the sabbath rest for the land. So they are important to God and for His people also at least to know what they all mean. Anyhow thats about how I see it.

Mizz

[Rick-Parker]

Consequently it's a well known fact that the pot stirring stick is exactly 5'5".

"PunchBuggy!"

Exactly. The question is a set-up, IMO. No one wants to get into an argument over something that they all know the OP believes is false.

[BlindSeeker]

The tribulation is known as "The Day of the Lord." Is. 2:12; 13:6-9; Joel 1:15; 2:1-31; 3:14; 1 Thess. 5:2.

Ok, here are all your verses for everyone to read, as well as ones referencing

[Massorite]

What are the scriptures that you believe support an end time seven year tribulation?

Thanks

Great question blindseeker. The answer is "There is no scripture that tells us that there will be seven years of tribulation".

One can try to justify the belief by twisting scripture but they will never find where we are told clearly.

[BlindSeeker]

What are the scriptures that you believe support an end time seven year tribulation?

Thanks

Great question blindseeker. The answer is "There is no scripture that tells us that there will be seven years of tribulation".

One can try to justify the belief by twisting scripture but they will never find where we are told clearly.

Which is why the question is asked . . .

[e lansing]

What are the scriptures that you believe support an end time seven year tribulation?

Thanks

Great question blindseeker. The answer is "There is no scripture that tells us that there will be seven years of tribulation".

One can try to justify the belief by twisting scripture but they will never find where we are told clearly.

Which is why the question is asked . . .

There are, I will show you them later. I did let you know that I had posted these answers on a different thread called Temple of God. Page 8 of 28 post 74.

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