Why America MUST fall

[MorningGlory]

I thought the statement was about no other nation would defend liberty the way the US has.

So, would China defend another country for the sake of liberty?

Aint it funny how the U.S defends everyone elses liberties, yet does barely defends her own. We can thank past and present administrations for this wonderful gift.

Amen to that, Ruck! We've had troops defending the freedom of South Korea for sixty years now.

[Guest man]

Why America MUST fall, You might be surprised

The entire world's gonna fall. It's just a matter of time.

[oldzimm]

Fez and Agua you have wonderful countries so I'm not going to bash them, all our countries have their faults.

Fez sometime I wouldn't mind going hunting in Africa, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one, can't afford it.

Agua, Australia a beautiful country that I would like to visit sometime, but I do have a question for you. I always imagined Australians as a very independent people. When your government took the guns from the citizens, I was shocked to hear it. If somebody would of told me Australia was going to disarm it's citizens, I would of said rrrrrrright, it isn't going to happen. So what happen, did your people just let the government come in and take your guns?

If the Feds or the UN tries to do that here, there is going to be a war. There are three things I hold dear to me, first is God and my right as a Christian to worship him, second is my family, three is the second amendment that gives me the right to defend my right to worship God and to defend my family. If the government wants my guns, their going to get them bullets first.

I forget who said it, but it is a good quot.

"An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject"

[nebula]

But hey, if Australia or South Africa are able to take the place of the USA as the dominant world power, I'd feel safe.

But you don't feel safe now? These boards are full of the fear some people have. I don't live in fear, nor do I live in blissful ignorance. I just live under Grace.

Sometimes I just can't win for losing....

"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"

Hmmm.....Lets see....hmmm Romans, Greeks, Persians, British ("the sun never sets on the British Empire"...on yeah?). Wonder who took over from those superpowers eventually?

Hmmmm......

Greece conquered Persia.

Rome conquered Greece.

Rome fell on its own. Any outside influence was a mere aid to the whole mix of reasons it fell.

Britain never fell. It just lost power control over its "colonies."

[MorningGlory]

Fez and Agua you have wonderful countries so I'm not going to bash them, all our countries have their faults.

Fez sometime I wouldn't mind going hunting in Africa, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one, can't afford it.

Agua, Australia a beautiful country that I would like to visit sometime, but I do have a question for you. I always imagined Australians as a very independent people. When your government took the guns from the citizens, I was shocked to hear it. If somebody would of told me Australia was going to disarm it's citizens, I would of said rrrrrrright, it isn't going to happen. So what happen, did your people just let the government come in and take your guns?

If the Feds or the UN tries to do that here, there is going to be a war. There are three things I hold dear to me, first is God and my right as a Christian to worship him, second is my family, three is the second amendment that gives me the right to defend my right to worship God and to defend my family. If the government wants my guns, their going to get them bullets first.

I forget who said it, but it is a good quot.

"An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject"

I totally agree, O.Z. I've raised my kids this way too; the only way to get the guns is to pry them out of our cold dead fingers. Some things you just can't compromise on and this is one of the big ones.

[~candice~]

Fez and Agua you have wonderful countries so I'm not going to bash them, all our countries have their faults.

Fez sometime I wouldn't mind going hunting in Africa, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one, can't afford it.

Agua, Australia a beautiful country that I would like to visit sometime, but I do have a question for you. I always imagined Australians as a very independent people. When your government took the guns from the citizens, I was shocked to hear it. If somebody would of told me Australia was going to disarm it's citizens, I would of said rrrrrrright, it isn't going to happen. So what happen, did your people just let the government come in and take your guns?

If the Feds or the UN tries to do that here, there is going to be a war. There are three things I hold dear to me, first is God and my right as a Christian to worship him, second is my family, three is the second amendment that gives me the right to defend my right to worship God and to defend my family. If the government wants my guns, their going to get them bullets first.

I forget who said it, but it is a good quot.

"An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject"

From an Aussie perspective, firearms are not a symbol of liberty and freedom. Your foundation was built around firearms, ours was not. For us, it's about as important as white egg shells v's brown egg shells.

As I said earlier, no country is entirely free. Each citizen has their liberty/freedom impinged by their governments in different ways. But looking as a whole at our rights, we are a nation of relatively free people. It ain't tyranny here folks .

MG I will not comment on the rest of your post as I would take the thread too far off topic (and I tend to get a little heated about firearms ).

God bless,

Candice

[Bold Believer]

But hey, if Australia or South Africa are able to take the place of the USA as the dominant world power, I'd feel safe.

But you don't feel safe now? These boards are full of the fear some people have. I don't live in fear, nor do I live in blissful ignorance. I just live under Grace.

Sometimes I just can't win for losing....

"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"

Hmmm.....Lets see....hmmm Romans, Greeks, Persians, British ("the sun never sets on the British Empire"...on yeah?). Wonder who took over from those superpowers eventually?

Hmmmm......

Greece conquered Persia.

Rome conquered Greece.

Rome fell on its own. Any outside influence was a mere aid to the whole mix of reasons it fell.

Britain never fell. It just lost power control over its "colonies."

Christ defeated Rome.

[Bold Believer]

Australia free? (I am assuming you're from OZ or New Zealand) Your government took your guns. There are certain things you can't say. That ain't freedom friend. That's tyranny lite. On the face, it looks like freedom, but underneath...rotten.

I did not have a gun to be taken

Can you tell me the certain things I can not say that you can?

I'll take Australia as my home over your country any day.

If I had to be born in another country, it'd be OZ, don't get me wrong, but unless I've misunderstood, if you speak out against homosexuality, can you not be charged with a hate crime? Or am I thinking of Canada?

[~candice~]

Australia free? (I am assuming you're from OZ or New Zealand) Your government took your guns. There are certain things you can't say. That ain't freedom friend. That's tyranny lite. On the face, it looks like freedom, but underneath...rotten.

I did not have a gun to be taken

Can you tell me the certain things I can not say that you can?

I'll take Australia as my home over your country any day.

If I had to be born in another country, it'd be OZ, don't get me wrong, but unless I've misunderstood, if you speak out against homosexuality, can you not be charged with a hate crime? Or am I thinking of Canada?

You are thinking of Canada.

You may now retract your 'tyranny' statement if you like

[nebula]

Oldzimm Australians have never,as a whole,put the high value on gun ownership the Usa does.

I guess a lot of that has to do with the differences between how our respective countries were founded, huh?