Catholicism

[georgesbluegirl]

Botz, it's all in the "deserving" that the disagreement comes....

And I'll refrain from commenting about George, this board has already seen enough controversy

Peace!

[georgesbluegirl]

When you've seen beyond yourself - then you may find, peace of mind, is waiting there - And the time will come when you see we're all one and life flows on Within You and Without You.

Have to have your daily dose of Dark Horse...

Don't you see we're all stuck in the Sour Milk Sea?

Sorry for the distraction, continue the thread as normal, I just had an urge.

MY SWEET LORD...!

[Botz]

I thought 'My Sweet L-rd' was all about the so called god Krishna.

A bit of friendly controversy is quite a balm at times.

[Spiritual Warrior]

When you've seen beyond yourself  - then you may find, peace of mind, is waiting there - And the time will come when you see we're all one and life flows on Within You and Without You.

Have to have your daily dose of Dark Horse...

Don't you see we're all stuck in the Sour Milk Sea?

Sorry for the distraction, continue the thread as normal, I just had an urge.

MY SWEET LORD...!

G-girl

Look at the facts in the Bible, there are many people going to hell because they have made up a god in their own mind. For example someone who says to themselves "My God would never throw anyone in to hell." or "My god would never allow people to suffer and die." Guess what they are right. Their God wouldn't because he has been made up in their own minds to suit their desires, they have conformed Jesus to themselves instead of conforming themselves to the Jesus of the Bible! But only by reviewing the hard, cold facts of the Bible will we see the truth. Botz posted a really good response to one of your posts. I would review it again.

Edited August 25, 2004 by Spiritual Warrior

[John3;16]

The bible teaches us that if we believe on him we are not condemned, but if we believe not we are already condemned, that would mean that if we do not know Jesus as savior we are lost.

John|3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he

that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not

believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

In Gal 2:16 we read that it is by faith, belief in Jesus Christ not by church membership, the Jewish rulers should be an example to us, that just because they belong to the linage of Abraham it did not assure them of heaven, in fact Jesus called them whitewashed tombs.

Galatians|2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the

works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we

have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by

the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by

the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

As you can see the law condemns us, we are unable to keep it, but by

[georgesbluegirl]

I still think we all pray to the same God...but all are free to disagree, as usual.

[stevehut]

As for Gandhi...you may all disagree, but I find it hard to picture Gandhi in Hell. John Lennon, Malcolm X???

Yes, I too find it hard to picture Gandhi in Hell. But then again, when I became a Christian, there were plenty of unpleasant things that I had to own up to and accept.

I do believe all these guys knew of Jesus and had access to the Word of God. Didn't they?

I say let God deal with them, and let's get on to some real issues. Like our own salvation and righteousness.

[BobTriez]

I say let God deal with them, and let's get on to some real issues. Like our own salvation and righteousness.

You are righteous Steve

I'd prefer to say " let's get on to some real issues like our salvation because of Jesus' righteousness "....I'm not righteous except through Him that is in me. I was nothing until He found me....hope that's what you meant

God bless,

Bob

[stevehut]

hope that's what you meant 

Yes, that is what I meant, Bob... *shesh*

But thank you for recognizing the obvious

[larryt]

Greetings in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Just got done reading the thread. Just had to join in being an ex-catholic.

- after all, we do believe in the same God.

I think someone mentioned the second commandment:

Ex 20:4  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:

Today we very seldom see physical graven images but many make image of God based on their own beliefs. Example: My God would never cast anyone into hell, I don't believe in hell. You would have to agree with him for their god is not the God of the bible. I believe in the God of the bible. If it is in the bible God said it and that settles it, and it does not matter if I believe it.

Paul also said there would be other Jesus'.

2Co 11:4  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him].

One of the reasons that christians are wary of catholics is history. In the past when the catholic church befriended non-catholic christians there were Massacres - the waldenses, huegonauts, anabaptists. These groups were not protestant in that they did not come out of the catholic church, but some of the protestant groups persecuted the same groups.

The catholic church has incorporated all the traits of the babylonian mystery religion. Alexander Hyslop documented the traits in his classic Two Babylons.

Mary in the catholic sense is the queen of heaven, a term used in Jerimiah for a false pagan godess. She was not ever virgin as the catholic church believes, she had at least six other children

Mt 13:55  Is not this the carpenter