Immunization

[truseek]

I have quite a dilemmea. I am a new father, as some of you may know, and I have been researching various vaccines and what goes into them. Some of them are downright scary. Some of the ones required by state law here in MD use aborted fetal tissue in some wya shape or form. I am very not cool with that, what to do?

In Christ

Truseek

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings Truseek,

Quite a dillema isn't it? I stopped taking influenza shots because the left over "mercury" that is used in them is 400X the recommended allowable amount. Mercury is not removed from the body and is quite deadly. Another thing about influenza shots is that it is a hit and miss thing. Chemists attempt to grow the next generation virus and hope that it is the one that immunizes the most people. But as said it is a hit and miss thing. It is also deadly.

Other vaccinations are similar and it scares me that in order for kids to get into school they are being required to have ALL their vaccinations or else no admission. No admission means either home schooling or the state takes away your children. Next thing you know people won't be able to work unless they have their vaccinations up to day. I believe all this is just one step closer to falling into lockstep with the Beast, where if we do not follow him, we will not be able to buy or sell.

Scary isn't it?

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest mercy@grace]

I didn't get my last one vax'd due to some of the things I learned!Unfrotunately 3of mine have mercury in their system(b4 they removed mercury from thier vaccines)It's a personal decision and only one you can make!I have been ridiculed for not vzx my last and have heard ALL the arguments as to why I should etc!There are exemptions you can get in every state to show your school or daycare!Don't let them fool you,many states say it's required but yet fail to mention there are philisophical and medical exemptions

~In Him

[Guest Gladiator4God]

One concern i have is the MMR shot (mesals mumps rubella) shot it has been linked to autism (its what happened to my son) i think in most states the stuff is given in the 1 shot and thats whats been linked to autism...... if you can get them seperate its much safer

[Guest mercy@grace]

here is just one link that explains the exemptions i mentioned.you don't even have to tell the school why,just state it is for a phil or religious reasons(which could simply be bc it goes against your Godly conscience)

http://www.cga.state.ct.us/2004/rpt/2004-R-0263.htm

[other one]

Greetings Truseek,

Quite a dillema isn't it? I stopped taking influenza shots because the left over "mercury" that is used in them is 400X the recommended allowable amount. Mercury is not removed from the body and is quite deadly. Another thing about influenza shots is that it is a hit and miss thing. Chemists attempt to grow the next generation virus and hope that it is the one that immunizes the most people. But as said it is a hit and miss thing. It is also deadly.

Other vaccinations are similar and it scares me that in order for kids to get into school they are being required to have ALL their vaccinations or else no admission. No admission means either home schooling or the state takes away your children. Next thing you know people won't be able to work unless they have their vaccinations up to day. I believe all this is just one step closer to falling into lockstep with the Beast, where if we do not follow him, we will not be able to buy or sell.

Scary isn't it?

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

I agree with Dad Earnie, about it being scarry, However we are in a different situation. I have asthma, and my wife has M.S. both of which are more dangerous to get the flue than the small amounts of mercury. I know it builds up over the years, but an asthma attack in the middle of having the flue can kill me tomorrow, and that kind of infection throws my wife's immune system in high gear and could easily put her in a wheel chair......

So like a lot of things in this world, for us it's the lesser of two evils. My mom and dad have taken flue shots for as long as I can remember and they are in their mid 80's now..... Who knows for sure which is best.

As for the kids, I just don't know. Ours are 27 and 28 and I really don't know if the shots are different now than they were back then. If they are the same, we gave them to our kids then and would do so now. I just don't know if the shots are the same.

My wife teaches here in Okla, and I have several cousins that teach, and if there is any way not to take the shots and go to school none of them know of it here. You would have to take it to the State Superintendant's office to be sure, or call an attourney. I wouldn't trust any internet sites with that kind of information, it's too important.

Sam

BTW: I have not had the flue since I started taking the shots 12 to 15 years ago.

[truseek]

One concern i have is the MMR shot (mesals mumps rubella) shot it has been linked to autism (its what happened to my son) i think in most states the stuff is given in the 1 shot and thats whats been linked to autism...... if you can get them seperate its much safer

MMR is one of the ones I was referring to specifically. It has some kinda diploid fibroplasts or somethin like that which come from aboted babies.

Thanks for the info and advice btw everyone, I really appreciate it. I want the best for my girl n I definitely dont want her having poison or anything that is a product of state sanctioned murder injected into her body.

In Christ

Truseek

[stevehut]

My son has just started Kindergarten (age 5). He has had all of his shorts, and he's as healthy as can be.

Sure, there's always a risk. Just like there's a risk to getting up in the morning and crosing the street. But some risks are worth it.

[irishcowboy]

I do not care for them, for I believe that they are a detriment to the immunization system.....

as an infant, I was given a small pox vaxine.... didnt take.... meaning my body killed it before it was able to scab or scar....

we were getting ready to move to england, got a second one ( at about 1 year old ) it did not take either.....

after being in england for a spell, there was an outbreak, ours was over a specified time frame, so we all got small pox vax...... again, mine did not take....

so the doc gave me another one, and it didnt take, and then another..... still didnt take.... the doc said I had a natural immunity....

later on, when i joined the service, it was noticed I did not have a scar for the small pox vax.... so i got another one, still after all them small pox vax, there should be a scar... but no one will listen to me when I tell them i have had 6 of them and not a single itty bitty scar..... they do not believe me when I say i have had it 6 times....... documented.....

now....

while in the military, the made receiving the flu shot manditory..... and well, every time i received the flu shot, i got the flu with in 3 days....... yep, every time, with out fail...... they would say i would have had it worse if i had not received the shot.... that is hog wash... .for three years running, i skated out of getting it, and never got the flu, even with my roommates or shipmates getting the flu.... even when others were on bed rest with the flu, that i had close personal contact with...

I get that shot, and I get the flu..... i have been out of the service now for over 10 years, and have yet to get the flu.... even when others around me get it.... and i have not had a single flu vax since......

just those two reasons, i refuse to take any vax for junk that will come and go... even the pnumonia shot... forget it..... not even for the Hep shot.... no way....

drugs of all sorts, i try to stay completely away.... let the Body that God created do its job..... i do not feel we should interfer with Gods work.....

look at some of the side effects of these so called miricle drugs...... the side effects for most of the ones they are advertising are worse then the original problem......

**** got gas???? take these........ oh by the way, you have a strong chance of having a heart attack or stroking out if you take these.... but they will clear up the gas problem.... ****

****Got a runny nose??? you need this..... it will dry up that runny nose in two weeks flat..... unless it is alergy related then this drug will cause brain damage...... *****

sound like i am exagerating? well, maybe a bit, but listen to the comercials.... listen to the side effects..... when you get a script from the pharm. do you ever read the side effects???

I got checked out for Tenitis ( ringing of the ears... ) doc gave me a script that he said should help some..... three days later I am doubled over at work, felt like some one had just run me thru with a double bladed sword, and then twisted it... ( no joke, I thought I was dying.... ) called the doc to find out what to do, and never got a single call back, called three times....... ( by the way, I threw the meds in the stool and flushed them..... ) and that side effect was not even listed as a possible problem..... sheeeeeesh....... I read the info sheet that came with them....

i personally, believe that the reason that there is these so called laws for the vaccines, is that some one in government is getting kick backs from the drug companies..... that is my personal opinion...

mike

[stevehut]

I believe that they are a detriment to the immunization system.....

I think you mean the immune system....yes?

An ineffective vaccine doesn't leave a scar? I didn't know that...