Family television? Better think again

[wyguy]

[quote name='wyguy' timestamProverbs 17:22

A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

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If only we could go back to TV shows like "Leave it to Beaver," "Ozzie and Harriet," "Bonanza." etc.

You and RGR mus be peas in a pod.

Ooooh! Add me to that pod, okay? ( You got some room for me in there? ) I miss the old shows! They had such talented writers back then! The shows were really funny, so they helped brighten your day and escape reality for awhile.

("A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones." Prov 17:22 ) "I love Lucy", "Dick Van Dyke" and "the Honeymooners", to name a few. Interesting plots and best of all, they weren't taking the Lord's Name in vain.

"Black Beauty" is a good series I still watch. I used to watch "Christy" and "Ann of Green Gables." But they don't show anymore on tv, as far as I know. I think you can rent them. These days I mostly watch Christian shows, but you even have to be careful with those! Too much filler and not enough meat. Sorry. I didn't mean to make anyone think of food nowadays.

[amor]

I don't really watch tv, only a few shows and news. Even family movies that I've seen uses the lords name in vain. I like to have my home, like Jesus was coming to dinner.

Going by the types he chose to dine with , I'm sure he's no stranger to strong language.

When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the "sinners" and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: "Why does he eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?"

[Guest LadyC]

sadly, i don't even have to turn on my tv to hear 276 F-words spoken around here... in fact, i think i've heard that word come out of my husband's mouth about that many times in the last two hours alone

i'm telling ya, i'd be jumping for joy if i could hear "bleeps" instead of the words he uses.

Is he a Christian?

I used to swear like a drunken sailor on shore leave, but when I got saved, I stopped totally.

i don't know what's between him and God. he says he accepted Christ as his savior as a child. i know that he grew up in church. i know that he believes, in an abstract kind of way at least, that Jesus is who He says He is. but if you ask him, mark will tell ya straight up he's never experienced a one-on-one kind of relationship with Christ. is he saved? i dunno. he certainly doesn't act like it.

[wyguy]

sadly, i don't even have to turn on my tv to hear 276 F-words spoken around here... in fact, i think i've heard that word come out of my husband's mouth about that many times in the last two hours alone

i'm telling ya, i'd be jumping for joy if i could hear "bleeps" instead of the words he uses.

Is he a Christian?

I used to swear like a drunken sailor on shore leave, but when I got saved, I stopped totally.

i don't know what's between him and God. he says he accepted Christ as his savior as a child. i know that he grew up in church. i know that he believes, in an abstract kind of way at least, that Jesus is who He says He is. but if you ask him, mark will tell ya straight up he's never experienced a one-on-one kind of relationship with Christ. is he saved? i dunno. he certainly doesn't act like it.

I may be wrong (and I sure hope I am) but he sounds like a false convert.

The church is full of those who "accepted" Jesus as children, never understanding actual repentance and faith in Christ alone, and thus, are false converts.

If he doesn't exhibit "fruit in keeping with repentance" (Matthew 3:8), I would guess he's not actually of the faith.

[Guest LadyC]

but many christians don't bear the fruit of their faith... usually that applies to new christians, or back-slidden christians. with people like mark, i think of them as "generational christians" which of course aren't really necessarily christians at all, but they THINK that they are, because their parents were, and because they went to sunday school, and yada yada.

i do not believe in the term "false convert". a conversion is something that happens as a result of a personal experience with Christ. there's nothing false about that.

[wyguy]

but many christians don't bear the fruit of their faith... usually that applies to new christians, or back-slidden christians. with people like mark, i think of them as "generational christians" which of course aren't really necessarily christians at all, but they THINK that they are, because their parents were, and because they went to sunday school, and yada yada.

i do not believe in the term "false convert". a conversion is something that happens as a result of a personal experience with Christ. there's nothing false about that.

"Not everyone who says to me,

[Guest LadyC]

i think you overlooked this statment that i made...

a conversion is something that happens as a result of a personal experience with Christ. there's nothing false about that.

and this one...

but if you ask him, mark will tell ya straight up he's never experienced a one-on-one kind of relationship with Christ.

again, i disagree with the term false convert. i don't believe in that term at all. i suspect my husband has never had a personal experience with Christ at all. it doesn't make him a false anything. it just makes conversion non-existent. those that will say "Lord, Lord" and Christ will say "depart from me" to aren't, IMO, "false" converts. they may very well be false christians, pretending to do their work for God while doing their works of their own accord for profit. they may very well be people who grew up in christian homes and thought that was good enough to get them to heaven. but there is no such thing as a false convert... because either they've accepted Christ in their heart or they have not. either they've got a relationship with Him or they don't. but to say that anyone's conversion was "false" implies that they thought they had accepted Christ, but that Christ, in turn, had decided they weren't good enough. it implies that Christ's work on the cross wasn't enough.

again though, i don't know what's in his heart, i don't know what (if anything) has transpired between him and God. i do know that a person can very much be saved and not yet produce any fruit in keeping with that faith, because God accepts us where we are, and works on us from the inside out. example, i accepted Christ as a child. i spent my teens and eary 20's running as far and fast as i could from him. i certainly wasn't producing any fruit. i was a pretty skanky person. but, i was saved. not one doubt in my mind about that. God's hand was still on my life and He was still not letting go. you see, i didn't talk to God or ask forgiveness because i felt unworthy to talk to Him. but my belief in who he is, what he'd done, and all that is required for salvation never wavered. God says if we believe in our hearts and confess with our mouth, that Jesus is all that, we are saved. and i believed. and i did confess it and never took back that confession. and little by little, He convinced me that He had never forsaken me. it took many years. but then i re-dedicated my life to Him.

but that doesn't mean that's the case with my husband. but it's not my place to make that judgment. it's just my place to lift him up in prayer. amen?

man, we need to not have such heavy conversations, wyguy!

[wyguy]

man, we need to not have such heavy conversations, wyguy!

Okay.

[Axxman]

ppfffftttt...its just a word. They are all just words. Words are a combination of sounds that we use to communicate. You could literally drive yourself batty worrying about words when all they do is convey a message. You could pick any random word and it will only have the power you allow it to have. For example, someone on this thread has allowed the word "baby" to oppress them...which is no more logical than allowing ANY word to offend or oppress you.

Are the words "frack" or "frick" offensive? How about "fiddlesticks" or "fudge?"

[Guest man]

You could literally drive yourself batty worrying about words when all they do is convey a message.