The Holy Spirit

[th1bill]

One thing I have noticed is that many people don't seem to care about the rewards, just getting in. When you speak of rewards, what do you mean? Crowns, size of your mansion, or the amount of authority you will have throughout eternity?

I wish you were in my Sunday School Class, you ask good questions! Since I have given my life over to our LORD I have dug in and having internet access I have made some great friends that are brethern and a few, over these past 21 years have been fluent in the languages. From them, collectively, I have learned the mansion idea is not completely wrong nor is it correct. The consensus runs that better translations are a room or an apartment in "the: mansion'... God's mansion. Now, while even that can be magnified to the extreme also I am still not going there. The rewards I spoke of was the Crowns we will joyfully return to the LORD. I have found that my service precludes my personal vanity, I would hope it does that for all of us.

A disturbing teaching I have heard over the years is the misconception that there is no difference between a Christian and a non-believer except that one believes in Jesus and one doesn't. In that school of though, a Christian will not have gone through any real transformation in this life, but will look and act like a non-believer, but one will go to hell and one to heaven. What do you say to those who believe that, and what are the rewards?

I pull out my copies of Where To Find It In The Bible and the Nave's Topical and point them back to the scriptures concerning this matter such as John 14:12-17 and make sure they key in on verses such as 15 in this passage. This is the scriptural proof for my oft taught and oft challenged teaching that there is more to the matter than just beliving Jesus was and is our Savior... even Satan believes or knows that Jesus is the Living Christ and He will not spend eternity in Heaven... but he believes! The reward for those that believe this scripture without the light of all other scripture being shown on it is Hell!

I probably have upset swome but the truth of the Word of God, often does that and I have never been an ear tickler.

[Guest]

One thing I have noticed is that many people don't seem to care about the rewards, just getting in. When you speak of rewards, what do you mean? Crowns, size of your mansion, or the amount of authority you will have throughout eternity?

I wish you were in my Sunday School Class, you ask good questions! Since I have given my life over to our LORD I have dug in and having internet access I have made some great friends that are brethren and a few, over these past 21 years have been fluent in the languages. From them, collectively, I have learned the mansion idea is not completely wrong nor is it correct. The consensus runs that better translations are a room or an apartment in "the: mansion'... God's mansion. Now, while even that can be magnified to the extreme also I am still not going there. The rewards I spoke of was the Crowns we will joyfully return to the LORD. I have found that my service precludes my personal vanity, I would hope it does that for all of us.

A disturbing teaching I have heard over the years is the misconception that there is no difference between a Christian and a non-believer except that one believes in Jesus and one doesn't. In that school of though, a Christian will not have gone through any real transformation in this life, but will look and act like a non-believer, but one will go to hell and one to heaven. What do you say to those who believe that, and what are the rewards?

I pull out my copies of Where To Find It In The Bible and the Nave's Topical and point them back to the scriptures concerning this matter such as John 14:12-17 and make sure they key in on verses such as 15 in this passage. This is the scriptural proof for my oft taught and oft challenged teaching that there is more to the matter than just believing Jesus was and is our Savior... even Satan believes or knows that Jesus is the Living Christ and He will not spend eternity in Heaven... but he believes! The reward for those that believe this scripture without the light of all other scripture being shown on it is Hell!

I probably have upset some but the truth of the Word of God, often does that and I have never been an ear tickler.

Hang On Beloved

For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life. John 3:16 (Amplified Bible)

Hang On

For everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord [invoking Him as Lord] will be saved. Romans 10:13 (Amplified Bible)

No Glory But Jesus Christ And Him Crucified

But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. Galatians 4:6

[enoob57]

One thing I have noticed is that many people don't seem to care about the rewards, just getting in. When you speak of rewards, what do you mean? Crowns, size of your mansion, or the amount of authority you will have throughout eternity?

I wish you were in my Sunday School Class, you ask good questions! Since I have given my life over to our LORD I have dug in and having internet access I have made some great friends that are brethern and a few, over these past 21 years have been fluent in the languages. From them, collectively, I have learned the mansion idea is not completely wrong nor is it correct. The consensus runs that better translations are a room or an apartment in "the: mansion'... God's mansion. Now, while even that can be magnified to the extreme also I am still not going there. The rewards I spoke of was the Crowns we will joyfully return to the LORD. I have found that my service precludes my personal vanity, I would hope it does that for all of us.

I think the reason the word mansion is used rather than room in the Father's house is to show it is more than simply a small room like one might picture. It is a place of splendor. I guess what I am asking you to be more specific is, to those who are thinking that having crowns is no big deal, and so what if they lose them, so long as they make it in, what would you say to them? Perhaps it is hard to relate to people like that, but there are a lot of them.

It is our bodies that degrade the reward... that is why Paul buffeted His 1Cor 9:24-27 and pressed to the high calling that is in Christ Jesus Phil 3:14... For this is the mind set of Paul that rewards of life pressed into conforming to The Son's Life is eternal glory unto God. This lucifer rebelled against and our bodies are not redeemed so the natural tendency is .... Imagine the scene called forth among great people to approach The Very God who has made you to recieve a reward that reflects your effort for Him ... "I just want to get in will be long gone by that time" ! May we all ask God to place this time in our hearts so that we as Paul press toward His Glory.... Love Steven

[th1bill]

I think the reason the word mansion is used rather than room in the Father's house is to show it is more than simply a small room like one might picture. It is a place of splendor. I guess what I am asking you to be more specific is, to those who are thinking that having crowns is no big deal, and so what if they lose them, so long as they make it in, what would you say to them? Perhaps it is hard to relate to people like that, but there are a lot of them.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. When this issue is presented I go to Matthew 22:2-14. It is here that we find the Church, the Jews and those that have believed but did not enter into the Bride of the Christ. The Groom is, of course, Jesus. The Bride is those that have received their crowns and cast them at His feet. Now here is where folks get sticky about the truth, the jew is those that refused to come to the wedding and the Guests are those that did no or few works. These people are no less saved than the members of the Bride but they, and this is not researched enough to call it anything but my opinion, but they will not rule with Christ for the 1,000 year reign. And my questions for them to reflect on are, first, "Why would you want to be second rate and not love God?" And my second question is something like, "Why would you take a gift of small value when for nothing more than your commitment the very best is yours?"

Then, yes, it is difficult to relate to these folks and I cannot pretend to understand them. It has been my experience that these people usually fail at everything they attempt to do because of their inability to commit to anything.