The Church at ?(insert any town or city)

[goldust59]

The church ( there is only one: Col 1:18, Eph5:25-27) has been split into so many denominations because our ancestors did not listen to the Spirit but let men come up with doctrines that have become tradition so ingrained that anyone that says they are hearing something "different" or "new" is labeled false teacher or satan masquerading. I challenge all the saints to get before God and ask Him to show you what He wants each of us to know. I'm sick of hearing "we dont have revelation on this and that" or "we wont know til Jesus comes" . I think the closer we get to the end the more the scripture will open to us, but we have to be open to receive the revelations when they come. So many are afraid of false teaching, and yes it is definitely out there(been out there), but if you have the Holy Spirit and you know His voice, listen. He will lead you into all truth.

[Guest]

.... I challenge all the saints to get before God and ask Him to show you what He wants each of us to know. I'm sick of hearing "we dont have revelation on this and that" or "we wont know til Jesus comes" . I think the closer we get to the end the more the scripture will open to us, but we have to be open to receive the revelations when they come. So many are afraid of false teaching, and yes it is definitely out there(been out there), but if you have the Holy Spirit and you know His voice, listen. He will lead you into all truth....

Well, Here God Shows Me Seven

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; Revelation 1:4

And Big Cities Are Made Up Of Many, Many Small Towns And Villages You Know

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Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. Ephesians 5:15-17

Be Very Blessed

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8

Love, Your Brother Joe

[Seriousseeker]

[Fez]

Yes, I am associated with a universal fellowship in the world that is non-sectarian and seeks unity to express the "one body in Christ" in the scriptural way. It has been going forward since the revival of church truth in the early 1800's. If Christians would set aside their denoms. and yield to the Word there would only be one assembly in a local geographical place. The only separation between Christian assemblies should be geography, not doctrines or personal preferences. The church (bride of Christ) will all together in Heaven, and should even now. You can PM me if you would like to discuss this further. Look up!

- Seriousseeker

You may not "see how that will ever occur", but it has been occuring for about 180 years now. I cannot go into it all here, but you can read some about this worldwide fellowship at www.biblecounsel.homestead.com if interested, and there are books and literature from the beginning of the testimony available at Bible Truth Publishers. It is more true to Scripture than anything about church truth I have ever seen in my 50+ years of Bible study. Nothing is added that is not in accord with the Word of God, and all the innovations of men and their hierarchy are rejected. It is a happy, Godly, and orderly fellowship of saints bowing to God's Word. I don't know why a true believer in Christ would fight against it, as I often see when this subject is introduced.

One may PM me or not if they would like further understanding. Look up always!

- Seriousseeker

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Do you believe that because of His grace, everyone will eventually be forgiven their sins and end up with Him?

[sdktlk]

Neb, seems you somehow always manage to go off on some journey that leaves the main subject behind.

Threads going off OP happen more often than they don't. Blaming me isn't going to change that.

The subject had to to with one church... not what I do or do not do with respect to fellowship. So, back to the subject.

Have you considered that I am asking you this for a reason?

Your words are so vague, I have no idea what you are trying to say. They may sound nice, but I cannot figure out how you intend for them to apply to real life.

Have you considered that I am pressing you as a means of making sense out of your position and propositions and claims?

That's why I've posted the emoticons. Your dodging is getting old.

And about John the Baptist - he was straight up with his answers. So was Elijah.

So if you are "the Elijah who is to come", why can't you follow suit?

My words have been straight forward in many area's, just as with who the Lord was speaking to on the Sermon on the Mount and what those Words mean to Christians. But, it seems those things are unable to be heard.

Also, just as I clearly show through Scripture here that the false Christ's and false prophets ARISE AFTER the "tribulation" period, yet we cannot see it.

Edited February 3, 2011 by sdktlk

[nebula]

The church ( there is only one: Col 1:18, Eph5:25-27) has been split into so many denominations because our ancestors did not listen to the Spirit but let men come up with doctrines that have become tradition so ingrained that anyone that says they are hearing something "different" or "new" is labeled false teacher or satan masquerading.

Problem is - that started between 100 - 400 A.D.

The worst being what began under Constantine's rule.

so ingrained that anyone that says they are hearing something "different" or "new" is labeled false teacher or satan masquerading.

The problem is - some in fact are!

The so-called Church of Jesus Christ of the the Latter Day Saints is a good example.

A whole mess of lesser known and smaller cults have arisen as well.

Being "different" or "new" is not the the key to determine the moving of the Spirit.

[nebula]

My words have been straight forward in many area's, just as with who the Lord was speaking to on the Sermon on the Mount and what those Words mean to Christians. But, it seems those things are unable to be heard.

No, you have said a lot of fancy things that on the surface sound good and wise -

But trying to put the principle into the nitty-gritty practice - how the principles you have proposed are to be lived out - you've been dodging.

[sdktlk]

I know we all agree that there is only One Way, and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. He said, "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." (Jn 14:21)

Unless we pass through the Door, that is the CROSS OF CHRIST, we will never see the same things and be of one accord.

When the Lord said, "Bless them that curse you" He meant what He said. Until we submit to and receive that Word and ask Him to live through us in that respect we have no understanding of the Cross of Christ.

When the Lord said, "If a man smite you on the one cheek turn you the other also" He meant what He said.

When the Lord said, "If a man compel you to go one mile go two" He meant what He said.

When the Lord said, "Give to every man that asks of you" He meant what He said.

When the Lord said, "Lend expecting nothing again" He meant what He said.

When the Lord said, "If any man takes away your cloak give him your coat also" He meant what He said.

There were many things written in the Scriptures about what the Lord Jesus was to suffer which He saw, and they did not please Him. We see Him in the Garden crying unto God and saying, "Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." (Luk 22:42)

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY. JESUS IS THAT WAY!! No man has to be the leader, no man has to say what is the right WAY. JESUS SAID IT ALL, FOLLOW HIM!!!

We see it written, "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself." (1Tim 6:3-5)

Else wise in that Day we will hear the Lord Jesus say, "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luk 6:46)

Neb ..... HOW MUCH PLAINER CAN IT GET!

[nebula]

What does any of that have to do with separate congregations and separate denominations?

[sdktlk]

What does any of that have to do with separate congregations and separate denominations?

Here's another "cryptic" saying. When you build a "city" with walls; that is a denomination that lays out it's principles and precepts, saying this far and no further, you die (spiritually.) For here we have no continuing city, but look for one which is to come. Abraham did not build a city, but rather lived in tents. When we take unto ourselves another name, ANY NAME, other than the Lord Jesus Christ, we die (spiritually.) When we give honor to, that is worship (if we can understand what the word worship means,) when we give our allegiance to that name, we die (spiritually.)

For it is written, "...Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the LORD thy God hath forbidden thee. For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God." (Deu 4:23-24) That is why we see it written, "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." (Rev 18:4)

These NAMES are the graven images, they represent the likeness of whomever it was that originally incorporated and registered the name. These names are the signs instigated by, "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." (Rev 16:13-14)

AGAIN: "And I saw proceed out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet/religious imposter three foul spirits, like unto frogs, as they are spirits of demons, making signs, which project over the kings/kingdoms of the earth/earthy, even the entire habitable globe, to assemble them, until that great warfare period of God Almighty."

The signs/NAMES that are posted in front of or over every assembly upon the entire habitable globe are the signs which these unclean spirits caused to come into being.

In order to see these things clearly though we have to understand all that has been said before in Revelation and all that is said after. But, I'll assure all that this is EXACTLY what is said in these verses. And the kingdoms of the earthy are not secular kingdoms, they are "spiritual" kingdoms which have been brought forth from the minds of carnal, that is earthy, men. Denominations all. All have the names, the signs, which have come forth through the minds of these earthy one's by instigation of these foul spirits to cause these "assemblies" to be assembled.

HE WHO HAS EARS TO HEAR, LET HIM HEAR.