so with all the protests in the Middle East

[Guest]

We are seeing a rise of people demanding democracy. As the TV's are covering these protests we also see young, energetic, tech-savy individuals organizing in things such as Facebook.

So are we witnessing a new age of people from different religions living harmoniously?

Muslims and Jews living in peace without a peace treaty?

We do it here in the US so why not abroad?

Democracy?

For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: Romans 13:3

Or The Removal

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (NASB)

Of The Restrainer?

Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 (NASB)

[Matthitjah]

P.S.

Amor,

The radical Muslims who are spoiling Europe right now with protests. Are they the product of poverty and slum like living? Have they been subjected to years of despotic rule?

Peace,

Dave

What are you on about? I'm not aware of any continent spoiling protests, and unlike you I actually live here. Wy don't you visit us and start distinguishing between reality and fantasy.

You know doggon' well that your own Prime Minister has stated that it is time for these Muslims to assimilate into European culture or be gone. You also know why. When they reach a certain proportion of the population, like they have in France, they begin to intimidate and take over through force. That's what the Prime Minister in Britain is afraid of. Actually, I feel bad for your Continent. You've fallen prey to secular humanism and leftist socialist ideology like the nonsense you're spouting here about poverty causing "Day's of Muslim Rage."

The fella's who slammed the airplanes into the World Trade Center on 9/11 weren't poor in any way, shape, or form. They were Radical Muslims like the ones in Egypt who are stirring all the discontent.

Peace,

dave

Cameron has waffled om a little about the importance of creating a new and "inclusive" sense of British identity, but he's not talking about expelling anyone. As to France, I go there quite a lot it's not been taken over and is not under threat of being taken over by crazed Muslims. As to Egypt,are you really trying to tell me that people weren't suffering under Mubarak? Or that his regime wasn't corrupt and oppresive? Do you not think it is not natural or normal to revolt in such circumstances.

You have a rather creaky conspiracy theory and are trying to bend world realities to fit it,but they don't. I suggest you give the works of Tim Lahaye and Hal Lindsey a rest and get in touch with reality.

Sadly, my dear friend, I am all too in touch with reality.

Never read any Lahaye and Lindsey is a genius.

France burned in "Days of Rage" not too long ago.

I will not stop calling a spade a spade. The fella's who slammed fully loaded and fueled airplanes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11 were not poor oppressed minorities. They were rich upper class Whahhabi Muslims who in some cases belong to the Saudi Royal Family or had connections to such.

I'm sorry if the Truth is inconvenient for you but the Leftist Ideology you spout about poverty being the cause of the" Day's of Rage," tearing apart the Arab world, and the hatred towards Israel and the U.S. being because of poverty are utter nonsense.

It is because of Islam that these folks have labored under brutal dictatorships to begin with. They have a Spiritual poverty and the physical follows that. I know that this is a foreign concept to you, but the physical follows the Spiritual.

Peace,

Dave

[nebula]

It is possible that the masses living in poverty joined the revolutions for this reason, but when it comes to who started the revolutions and how they got started . . . one sees a different picture entirely.

[Guest]

Parker1, could you elaborate a little on what you mean about "not letting your guard down against Satan and his illusions?" For I agree with your comment as a rule of thumb in all of life. But I was curious on what you meant specifically in regards to this particular topic? Just interested on your thoughts. Thanks (for more clarification on your remark, regarding this thread.)

My opinion? Maybe this is all purely a political thing going down. But when I first saw it happening on tv and the magnitude of it, I couldn't help wondering if there is anything of prophetic significance to it. What do you think, family?

I'd love to hear you weigh in on your opinions on this angle or perspective: Could it have to do with the end times? And if so, do you have scripture to support this ? I'm no prophecy scholar by any means, but I learn as I go and it does fascinate me. I'm always interested in world events because of Israel and the return of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I agree with Matthitjah and MorningGlory that poor Israel is always being put through the wringer! My heart aches for her, for she is the apple of God's Eye and I have felt a connection with her ever since my teen years. Loved her then, love her now and I always will.

Sorry I'm so slow in responding. The prophecies and Scripture in general teaches that until the Second Coming, there will be no peace on Earth. Muslim and Jew will not live in peace. I believe that the only time that Israel will believe that it is "safe" is during the Tribulation, when the Anti-Christ will have made a 7 year treaty with Israel. Then he will break it after 3 1/2 years.

Ezekiel 38:10-12 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: You will say, 'I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates' - to take plunder and to take booty, to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, and against a people gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the land."

And, Ezekiel 38:14-16 "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "On that day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it? Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes."

The deception of Satan is that there can be peace in Israel. If we believe that, then we cannot believe that what the Bible teaches is true; or may believe that the time is not near and we neglect The Great Commission.

[Fez]

It is possible that the masses living in poverty joined the revolutions for this reason, but when it comes to who started the revolutions and how they got started . . . one sees a different picture entirely.

Every war, Christian nation or other, needs cannon fodder. It has always been like that, and always will be.

I don't have to read any book to know this.

I just have to listen to the lyrics of Dylan's "Masters of war".........