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If anyone "plays" with lucid dreams and ends up on the wrong side of the fence, it's only because they are the ones who wanted to go there.

I understand your point.I think,though,it may be more likely to stray in this fantasy state because it is difficult enough staying alert to temptations while awake.I may be wrong.

It does not sit well with me and I would advise not using WILD.

1Pe 5:8 Stay sober, stay alert! Your enemy, the Adversary, stalks about like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

Wake Initiated Lucid Dreaming-----W.I.L.D.

See the very first word?....Wake. That means you're fully awake. You're not sleeping. You're not in a state of unconsciousness. You are fully aware of your surroundings. The only way you could stray into any dark areas is if you wanted to go there.

And please understand, I am not stating that people should try this. I am simply stating the facts as I believe them to be.

I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

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I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

You're awake the whole time.

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Lucid dreaming is associated with different cults. It is also a practice in Yoga, OBE and mind control. Knowing you are dreaming in and of itself is not where the danger is found. It is what you do with this that may lead people down the wrong roads. You should look into the dark side of lucid dreaming to know where the dangers are.

Thank you. ;)

I am curious ... have you ever looked into the darker side of lucid dreaming?

No, I have no reason too, I'm never gonna go there. I know what the devil is capable of, I've seen it. I don't need to study it.

I am not saying to study it as one would the scriptures, but to know about it, how others use it and why. It would help when you wish to join in on a conversation about the darker side of a subject.

just a suggestion so we don't keep rolling off the wayside chasing rabbits.

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I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

You're awake the whole time.

wow, you can actually do that!? Sounds amazing and since it's a dream it doesn't matter! I just googled it and i have already done this on two occasions. First time as soon as my eyes closed i began to dream and it gave me such a fright i jumped up. Second time i just went with it. Whats the problem with it?

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I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

You're awake the whole time.

wow, you can actually do that!? Sounds amazing and since it's a dream it doesn't matter!

It actually does matter because you're the one in control. Unlike a regular dream, Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams are experienced in a state of total consciousness. You know what's happening and have the ability to stop it at anytime.

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I am not saying to study it as one would the scriptures, but to know about it, how others use it and why. It would help when you wish to join in on a conversation about the darker side of a subject.

just a suggestion so we don't keep rolling off the wayside chasing rabbits.

I am well aware of the desires that come from the heart and to the extent that some people will go to achieve those desires.

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I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

You're awake the whole time.

wow, you can actually do that!? Sounds amazing and since it's a dream it doesn't matter!

It actually does matter because you're the one in control. Unlike a regular dream, Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams are experienced in a state of total consciousness. You know what's happening and have the ability to stop it at anytime.

Yeh but its still a dream, not reality. It like saying that when i play COD and shoot another person i am actually commiting a murder lol. Do you think that you can sin in a dream?

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I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

You're awake the whole time.

wow, you can actually do that!? Sounds amazing and since it's a dream it doesn't matter!

It actually does matter because you're the one in control. Unlike a regular dream, Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams are experienced in a state of total consciousness. You know what's happening and have the ability to stop it at anytime.

Yeh but its still a dream, not reality. It like saying that when i play COD and shoot another person i am actually commiting a murder lol. Do you think that you can sin in a dream?

You don't understand Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams.

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I understood that the dream was initiated while awake,to control the theme, and then you entered dream(unconscious state) to play.This means you decide what you want to dream about basically and can wander in it as your fantasies allow.The dream is initiated while awake but then sleep is entered?

You're awake the whole time.

wow, you can actually do that!? Sounds amazing and since it's a dream it doesn't matter!

It actually does matter because you're the one in control. Unlike a regular dream, Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams are experienced in a state of total consciousness. You know what's happening and have the ability to stop it at anytime.

Yeh but its still a dream, not reality. It like saying that when i play COD and shoot another person i am actually commiting a murder lol. Do you think that you can sin in a dream?

You don't understand Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams.

lol of course not so you won't be answering my question.

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That's because you don't see the danger of playing with Lucid Dreams.

If anyone "plays" with lucid dreams and ends up on the wrong side of the fence, it's only because they are the ones who wanted to go there.

There's danger in playing on the internet. In less than 30 seconds I can be visiting any number of unsavory sites. What makes these 2 things comparable is they can both be controlled. What makes these things distintive from one another is that while they can both be controlled, one can be shut off, the other one can't.

We have the free will to pick and choose what we want in this world. The devil cannot force us to play his game. Those who fall prey to Satan, do so out of willfulness or ignorance of the Word. The Lucid Dream has no power of it's own. It's boundaries are defined by where we are willing to take it. Sin begins and ends in the heart of the believer.

John 10

27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father

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