satan's "church"

[Guest man]

There is a store where I work that will not sell to white people. Sometimes I go in on duty and hang out just to annoy them.

I kind of find entertainment value in their stupidity.

That's just pure ignorance.

What is "ignorant" about what you put in bold text?

You don't know? You deliberately set out to annoy someone just to be entertained. Where can I find that teaching in the Word? You're probably one of the reasons they don't sell to white people.

Instead of challenging a woman to walk a 1/2 mile through the ghetto on a weekend night, why don't you go hang out at that store sometime when you're off duty and see how entertaining that is.

[Guest]

No Matter What Shade

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:11

Or Tone Of The Human Race

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 2:7

If You Are A Believer You Will Suffer For A Season

Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. John 15:20

And If You Are Not

Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. Jeremiah 17:5

You Will Suffer

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36

Too

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So

Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. Ephesians 5:16

Shine

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:14-16

And Be Blessed Beloved

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[enoob57]

That signature is awsome... and is right both evening and morningGlory...

You mean the one below this sentence?

The Scripture yes...

[hr.jr.]

There is a store where I work that will not sell to white people. Sometimes I go in on duty and hang out just to annoy them.

I kind of find entertainment value in their stupidity.

That's just pure ignorance.

What is "ignorant" about what you put in bold text?

You don't know? You deliberately set out to annoy someone just to be entertained. Where can I find that teaching in the Word? You're probably one of the reasons they don't sell to white people.

Instead of challenging a woman to walk a 1/2 mile through the ghetto on a weekend night, why don't you go hang out at that store sometime when you're off duty and see how entertaining that is.

Since I am not white, I seriously doubt my hanging out in the store affects their perception of white people in the least. It might affect their perception of Native Americans, but not white people. If I find annoying a racist entertaining, then so be it. You must keep in mind that what I am doing is something that the civil rights act says I have a civil right to do.

I am not afraid to go anywhere off duty. I am 6' 6", 270 lbs, and have an extensive past in martial arts. On or off duty, I am not afraid of anyone or any small group as far as that goes. The deputy sheriff who trained me when I was a rookie told me "criminals and dogs sense fear. If you aint afraid, you never have to fight." Its been my experience he was 99.9% correct.

You say I should not go somewhere I am not wanted. I guess that made the sit ins of the civil rights movement wrong? I refuse to spend my money where I am not wanted, but I will exercise my Constitutional rights when I choose.

[hr.jr.]

I dealt as a career with "sociology" - every single day. For more years than I care to count.... in and OUT of the ghetto. Racism comes in many colors, sizes and walks of life. I prefer not to label people simply because of where they live or have come from. It's out there ... and it's a conscious choice - as Fez stated in the OP - people can overcome if they choose.

The question is will they choose? If someone is reared or socialized to be a certain way, then the chances are that is how they will be. Why would a person who was reared to be a racist want to change? You say they can change. I agree. What will be the cataclyysmic event that will make them decide they want to change? Why should someone want to change if they see nothing wrong with the way they are? My major is not sociology, but I did have to take several courses in it for C.J. Admin. My good friend is a Sociology professor. He and I have had this conversation multiple times. He will quickly tell you that racism, poverty, alcoholism, etc. etc. are all heavily effected by social enviornment during childhood. I think you would be hard pressed to find an authority on Sociology that would refute what I am saying. Of course there are those who pull themselves up and better themselves, but the vast majority do not.

You can prefer to label or not label people. I do not label people as individuals, but it would take an Osterich to not recognize generalities and commonalites prevalent in certain areas and classes. What I refer to as the "ghetto" in my city has people of all races. What do they have in common? They are all poor. Due to that fact, generation to generation, the vast majority of them all remian in poverty. They do not break the cycle. They have no desire to. The women's ambition is to have 6 kids and them men's ambition is to smoke pot, drink beer, conceive the kids and abandom them. The real ambitious ones start their own meth lab or crack cook house.

Uh huh. Thank goodness you are not stereotyping people. That is a huge relief.

As one of my psychology professor said, "every person alive on this earth is prejudiced. The only question is prejudiced toward what?"

After working S.W.A.T. and Drug investigations for 16 years I have learned a few things. One thing is if they look like a gang banger, you better treat them that way. Is that stereotyping or prejudiced? Call it what you want, It keeps me alive. You are welcome to come ride with me one night if you want. I will give you $100 if you walk 1/2 mile through the ghetto on a weekend night. Call it stereotyping if you want, but I know where the bad areas of town are. Why are they bad areas of town? Simple answer. The majority of the inhabitants of the area are bad people. Has nothing to do with race. All races are equally good criminals there.

Keep your money. With any high risk profession that takes you into potentially dangerous situations - you'd be rather naive not to size up the situation and prepare to protect yourself and others... If you are in law enforcement I wouldn't want you for a partner if you didn't know the area you are supposed to be serving... I'm sure being such a pro - you take extreme measures to make sure you aren't confusing caution with intolerance.

There is only one thing I am intolerant of at work. That is crime. As long as you are not breaking the law, I really do not care what color you are or where you came from. Also, having learned some lessons the hard way, I do not ignore the warning signs that tip me to the fact I am likely dealing with a criminal. One must also recognize that if one willingly chooses to try to look like a criminal, I am going to treat them like a crimnal until I determine otherwise. I will give you an example. Baggy Clothes. Do I have anything against baggy clothes? Yes! The Bloods began that "fashion trend" for the sole purpose of facilitationg the hiding of contraband or weapons. If I walk up to someone wearing normal fitting clothes, I can see with my eyes they are not concealing any weapons. If I walk up to someone with baggy clothes, I have to pat them down to make that determination. Stereotyping? Don't know. Don't care. It keeps me alive.

[Believer1997]

I dealt as a career with "sociology" - every single day. For more years than I care to count.... in and OUT of the ghetto. Racism comes in many colors, sizes and walks of life. I prefer not to label people simply because of where they live or have come from. It's out there ... and it's a conscious choice - as Fez stated in the OP - people can overcome if they choose.

The question is will they choose? If someone is reared or socialized to be a certain way, then the chances are that is how they will be. Why would a person who was reared to be a racist want to change? You say they can change. I agree. What will be the cataclyysmic event that will make them decide they want to change? Why should someone want to change if they see nothing wrong with the way they are? My major is not sociology, but I did have to take several courses in it for C.J. Admin. My good friend is a Sociology professor. He and I have had this conversation multiple times. He will quickly tell you that racism, poverty, alcoholism, etc. etc. are all heavily effected by social enviornment during childhood. I think you would be hard pressed to find an authority on Sociology that would refute what I am saying. Of course there are those who pull themselves up and better themselves, but the vast majority do not.

You can prefer to label or not label people. I do not label people as individuals, but it would take an Osterich to not recognize generalities and commonalites prevalent in certain areas and classes. What I refer to as the "ghetto" in my city has people of all races. What do they have in common? They are all poor. Due to that fact, generation to generation, the vast majority of them all remian in poverty. They do not break the cycle. They have no desire to. The women's ambition is to have 6 kids and them men's ambition is to smoke pot, drink beer, conceive the kids and abandom them. The real ambitious ones start their own meth lab or crack cook house.

Uh huh. Thank goodness you are not stereotyping people. That is a huge relief.

As one of my psychology professor said, "every person alive on this earth is prejudiced. The only question is prejudiced toward what?"

After working S.W.A.T. and Drug investigations for 16 years I have learned a few things. One thing is if they look like a gang banger, you better treat them that way. Is that stereotyping or prejudiced? Call it what you want, It keeps me alive. You are welcome to come ride with me one night if you want. I will give you $100 if you walk 1/2 mile through the ghetto on a weekend night. Call it stereotyping if you want, but I know where the bad areas of town are. Why are they bad areas of town? Simple answer. The majority of the inhabitants of the area are bad people. Has nothing to do with race. All races are equally good criminals there.

Keep your money. With any high risk profession that takes you into potentially dangerous situations - you'd be rather naive not to size up the situation and prepare to protect yourself and others... If you are in law enforcement I wouldn't want you for a partner if you didn't know the area you are supposed to be serving... I'm sure being such a pro - you take extreme measures to make sure you aren't confusing caution with intolerance.

There is only one thing I am intolerant of at work. That is crime. As long as you are not breaking the law, I really do not care what color you are or where you came from. Also, having learned some lessons the hard way, I do not ignore the warning signs that tip me to the fact I am likely dealing with a criminal. One must also recognize that if one willingly chooses to try to look like a criminal, I am going to treat them like a crimnal until I determine otherwise. I will give you an example. Baggy Clothes. Do I have anything against baggy clothes? Yes! The Bloods began that "fashion trend" for the sole purpose of facilitationg the hiding of contraband or weapons. If I walk up to someone wearing normal fitting clothes, I can see with my eyes they are not concealing any weapons. If I walk up to someone with baggy clothes, I have to pat them down to make that determination. Stereotyping? Don't know. Don't care. It keeps me alive.

See above - did you not comprehend that? Though I do not like the expression solely on it's own.... whatever.

[Guest man]

Since I am not white, I seriously doubt my hanging out in the store affects their perception of white people in the least. It might affect their perception of Native Americans, but not white people. If I find annoying a racist entertaining, then so be it. You must keep in mind that what I am doing is something that the civil rights act says I have a civil right to do.

I am not afraid to go anywhere off duty. I am 6' 6", 270 lbs, and have an extensive past in martial arts. On or off duty, I am not afraid of anyone or any small group as far as that goes. The deputy sheriff who trained me when I was a rookie told me "criminals and dogs sense fear. If you aint afraid, you never have to fight." Its been my experience he was 99.9% correct.

I'm not a psychologist and I don't even pretend to be one on the internet, but I've spent enough time in psych-wards to know that you were bullied as a child and you're using your authority as a police officer to try to make up for that. Because you're a minority you feel you were also discriminated against and you're taking that discrimination and focusing it towards another minority. Because of your authority as a police officer, you feel you're untouchable. You need to come to terms with who you will answer to in the end. You say you're annoying a racist, but all I see is one racist annoying another.

You say the civil rights act allows you to carry on this way. It also allows the Westboro Baptist Church the freedom to act as they do. Something to think about the next time you're just "hanging out".

You say I should not go somewhere I am not wanted. I guess that made the sit ins of the civil rights movement wrong? I refuse to spend my money where I am not wanted, but I will exercise my Constitutional rights when I choose.

I don't believe I said that. It wasn't even implied. The focus of my comment was the behavior. Christ gave us 2 commandments. Can you honestly say that either one of those commandments is represented on the days you like to "hang out" at the store?

I wouldn't spend my money at an establishment that didn't want me there either. Unless it was absolutely necessary, I would never set foot in that place.

You're a police officer. (and a christian) You interact with these people on a daily basis. You have the perfect opportunity to bridge the gap, but you would rather put walls.

And just so you know, I know what it's like to be a minority, I've been one for 54 years. Using race and Constitutional rights to bend the rules is never acceptable. It may be funny but it doesn't mean it's right.

[hr.jr.]

Since I am not white, I seriously doubt my hanging out in the store affects their perception of white people in the least. It might affect their perception of Native Americans, but not white people. If I find annoying a racist entertaining, then so be it. You must keep in mind that what I am doing is something that the civil rights act says I have a civil right to do.

I am not afraid to go anywhere off duty. I am 6' 6", 270 lbs, and have an extensive past in martial arts. On or off duty, I am not afraid of anyone or any small group as far as that goes. The deputy sheriff who trained me when I was a rookie told me "criminals and dogs sense fear. If you aint afraid, you never have to fight." Its been my experience he was 99.9% correct.

I'm not a psychologist and I don't even pretend to be one on the internet, but I've spent enough time in psych-wards to know that you were bullied as a child and you're using your authority as a police officer to try to make up for that. Because you're a minority you feel you were also discriminated against and you're taking that discrimination and focusing it towards another minority. Because of your authority as a police officer, you feel you're untouchable. You need to come to terms with who you will answer to in the end. You say you're annoying a racist, but all I see is one racist annoying another.

You say the civil rights act allows you to carry on this way. It also allows the Westboro Baptist Church the freedom to act as they do. Something to think about the next time you're just "hanging out".

You say I should not go somewhere I am not wanted. I guess that made the sit ins of the civil rights movement wrong? I refuse to spend my money where I am not wanted, but I will exercise my Constitutional rights when I choose.

I don't believe I said that. It wasn't even implied. The focus of my comment was the behavior. Christ gave us 2 commandments. Can you honestly say that either one of those commandments is represented on the days you like to "hang out" at the store?

I wouldn't spend my money at an establishment that didn't want me there either. Unless it was absolutely necessary, I would never set foot in that place.

You're a police officer. (and a christian) You interact with these people on a daily basis. You have the perfect opportunity to bridge the gap, but you would rather put walls.

And just so you know, I know what it's like to be a minority, I've been one for 54 years. Using race and Constitutional rights to bend the rules is never acceptable. It may be funny but it doesn't mean it's right.

Internet Psychologist? Actually, I was not bullied as a child. I did not grow up traumatized by racism. I am not a racist. Mighty polite of you to call me one, but I am not one. I am not an under achiever. I was not un-popular in school. I was actually the star athlete and was very popular. Dated pretty much any girl I wanted to. I am still very well respected in my home town. I am also not an osterich with my head in the sand. My best friend is black. My wife is white. I most obviously have no animosity against either race. I treat all people fairly. If you take criminals out of the audience you poll, you will find that most everybody on my beat likes me. The kids love me because I take the time to hang out with them and actually do try to make a difference in their lives.

I treat all people wearing baggy pants the same regardless of whether or not they are white, black, or Hispanic. Until I get to know them personally and know their intent, I treat them as threat to my safety. Why? Aside from my training that tells me to treat them as a threat, my personal experiences of guns and knives being pulled from baggy clothes has made me associcate them with a potential for danger. Can the person in a three piece suit pull a pistol from his briefcase? Sure, but I have never had that happen. In my law enforcement career, I have had many people try to harm me and four that tried to kill me. Three of the four that tried to kill me were thugs. The other was my good friend from school who had gotten off his medication. He had no idea it was me and he had no idea what he was even doing. I have learned through many years of experience who will and who will not try to harm me. Even though it might break your bleeding heart, I do not treat 90 year old grand ma who is receiving a seat belt ticket the same way I treat the four 20 year old occupants of a car that I stop leaving a crack house. Why? I have never been shot at by grand ma, but I have been shot at by people leaving a crack house.

[Fez]

I am not an under achiever. I was not un-popular in school. I was actually the star athlete and was very popular. Dated pretty much any girl I wanted to. I am still very well respected in my home town. I am also not an osterich with my head in the sand. My best friend is black. My wife is white. I most obviously have no animosity against either race. I treat all people fairly. If you take criminals out of the audience you poll, you will find that most everybody on my beat likes me. The kids love me because I take the time to hang out with them and actually do try to make a difference in their lives.

I treat all people wearing baggy pants the same regardless of whether or not they are white, black, or Hispanic.

Oh Lord, that sentence says so much about you.

I, I, I, I, I......

"baggy pants", that is most definitely stereotyping. My nephew is a youth pastor and he wears them (they look ridiculous, but he wears them).

I will pray.

[hr.jr.]

I dealt as a career with "sociology" - every single day. For more years than I care to count.... in and OUT of the ghetto. Racism comes in many colors, sizes and walks of life. I prefer not to label people simply because of where they live or have come from. It's out there ... and it's a conscious choice - as Fez stated in the OP - people can overcome if they choose.

The question is will they choose? If someone is reared or socialized to be a certain way, then the chances are that is how they will be. Why would a person who was reared to be a racist want to change? You say they can change. I agree. What will be the cataclyysmic event that will make them decide they want to change? Why should someone want to change if they see nothing wrong with the way they are? My major is not sociology, but I did have to take several courses in it for C.J. Admin. My good friend is a Sociology professor. He and I have had this conversation multiple times. He will quickly tell you that racism, poverty, alcoholism, etc. etc. are all heavily effected by social enviornment during childhood. I think you would be hard pressed to find an authority on Sociology that would refute what I am saying. Of course there are those who pull themselves up and better themselves, but the vast majority do not.

You can prefer to label or not label people. I do not label people as individuals, but it would take an Osterich to not recognize generalities and commonalites prevalent in certain areas and classes. What I refer to as the "ghetto" in my city has people of all races. What do they have in common? They are all poor. Due to that fact, generation to generation, the vast majority of them all remian in poverty. They do not break the cycle. They have no desire to. The women's ambition is to have 6 kids and them men's ambition is to smoke pot, drink beer, conceive the kids and abandom them. The real ambitious ones start their own meth lab or crack cook house.

Uh huh. Thank goodness you are not stereotyping people. That is a huge relief.

As one of my psychology professor said, "every person alive on this earth is prejudiced. The only question is prejudiced toward what?"

After working S.W.A.T. and Drug investigations for 16 years I have learned a few things. One thing is if they look like a gang banger, you better treat them that way. Is that stereotyping or prejudiced? Call it what you want, It keeps me alive. You are welcome to come ride with me one night if you want. I will give you $100 if you walk 1/2 mile through the ghetto on a weekend night. Call it stereotyping if you want, but I know where the bad areas of town are. Why are they bad areas of town? Simple answer. The majority of the inhabitants of the area are bad people. Has nothing to do with race. All races are equally good criminals there.

Keep your money. With any high risk profession that takes you into potentially dangerous situations - you'd be rather naive not to size up the situation and prepare to protect yourself and others... If you are in law enforcement I wouldn't want you for a partner if you didn't know the area you are supposed to be serving... I'm sure being such a pro - you take extreme measures to make sure you aren't confusing caution with intolerance.

There is only one thing I am intolerant of at work. That is crime. As long as you are not breaking the law, I really do not care what color you are or where you came from. Also, having learned some lessons the hard way, I do not ignore the warning signs that tip me to the fact I am likely dealing with a criminal. One must also recognize that if one willingly chooses to try to look like a criminal, I am going to treat them like a crimnal until I determine otherwise. I will give you an example. Baggy Clothes. Do I have anything against baggy clothes? Yes! The Bloods began that "fashion trend" for the sole purpose of facilitationg the hiding of contraband or weapons. If I walk up to someone wearing normal fitting clothes, I can see with my eyes they are not concealing any weapons. If I walk up to someone with baggy clothes, I have to pat them down to make that determination. Stereotyping? Don't know. Don't care. It keeps me alive.

See above - did you not comprehend that? Though I do not like the expression solely on it's own.... whatever.

My apology. I took above as sarcasm when it was not. I am sincerely sorry for that.