hell is for the sin, not the sinner

[Guest]

.... one thing people do is give me scripture that goes against my beliefs. one thing i believe is that Bible leaves some things out, and maybe even adds things. ive wondered for a long time why only matthew, mark, luke and john have gospels, but the other disciples dont. and then a month or so ago i was watching the history channel and there was a show on "the lost gospels" and how, whatever king/emperor is was, took out gospels from the Bible to fit how he wanted his world to be shaped. and this is something i strongly believe in.

i know God works in everyones lives differently and the beliefs He"s put on my heart arent meant for everyone to understand.

Dear One There Is A Lier (And He Is Real)

Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden '?" Genesis 3:1 (New American Standard Bible

[Gods_girl111]

We, the gentiles, were the ones who the Jews, (God's people) were separate from. An example would be not to wear a garment made of two materials. Another would be dietary laws. When we continue to hold to those laws, it represents us being outcasts. Any laws dealing with God's standard of holiness still apply. Some things obviously don't apply, like the laws telling us to bring a bull to a priest to sacrifice for our sins. Those laws were only to apply till Jesus came and died on the cross.

i agree that animal sacrifice is no longer needed. that was peoples way of "making up" (so to speak) for their sin because they didnt have Christ. but, i already said this, if there was anything that God wanted His people to be separated from, we should still be separating ourselves from that.

[Gods_girl111]

.... one thing people do is give me scripture that goes against my beliefs. one thing i believe is that Bible leaves some things out, and maybe even adds things. ive wondered for a long time why only matthew, mark, luke and john have gospels, but the other disciples dont. and then a month or so ago i was watching the history channel and there was a show on "the lost gospels" and how, whatever king/emperor is was, took out gospels from the Bible to fit how he wanted his world to be shaped. and this is something i strongly believe in.

i know God works in everyones lives differently and the beliefs He"s put on my heart arent meant for everyone to understand.

Dear One There Is A Lier (And He Is Real)

Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden '?" Genesis 3:1 (New American Standard Bible

[Guest Butero]

We, the gentiles, were the ones who the Jews, (God's people) were separate from. An example would be not to wear a garment made of two materials. Another would be dietary laws. When we continue to hold to those laws, it represents us being outcasts. Any laws dealing with God's standard of holiness still apply. Some things obviously don't apply, like the laws telling us to bring a bull to a priest to sacrifice for our sins. Those laws were only to apply till Jesus came and died on the cross.

i agree that animal sacrifice is no longer needed. that was peoples way of "making up" (so to speak) for their sin because they didnt have Christ. but, i already said this, if there was anything that God wanted His people to be separated from, we should still be separating ourselves from that.

When it comes to holiness issues, I agree, but we aren't talking about that. I am only talking about laws that were given to Israel to show they were separate from the gentile nations around them. There is no reason for not mixing two differen't types of material in the same garment except to show Israel was a separate nation. The same thing applies to dietary laws, and that can be seen in Peter's vision in Acts. If you feel the need to make sure your clothes are of only one material, and you want to hold to Old Testament dietary laws to show you are separate from the gentiles, I am not going to try to discourage you. If you esteem something to be unclean, to you it is unclean.

What is perplexing to me is that you are saying we need to keep all these laws, but at the same time, you have taken doctrinal positions that are contrary to scripture, with regard to who is saved and who is lost? You seemed to openly disagree with some scriptures. I am far more concerned over those things than the fact you think we need to follow the letter of the law.

[Guest Butero]

.... one thing people do is give me scripture that goes against my beliefs. one thing i believe is that Bible leaves some things out, and maybe even adds things. ive wondered for a long time why only matthew, mark, luke and john have gospels, but the other disciples dont. and then a month or so ago i was watching the history channel and there was a show on "the lost gospels" and how, whatever king/emperor is was, took out gospels from the Bible to fit how he wanted his world to be shaped. and this is something i strongly believe in.

i know God works in everyones lives differently and the beliefs He"s put on my heart arent meant for everyone to understand.

Dear One There Is A Lier (And He Is Real)

Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden '?" Genesis 3:1 (New American Standard Bible

[Gods_girl111]

like i said, i knew that when i started this, it wouldnt be nicely welcomed. what you believe is right, is right for YOU, in your walk with God.

two weeks after coming to know God, He put in on my heart that we are all missing something. and He has done an amazing work. i never thought i would believe in God let alone want to change the world with Him. He let me know from the get-go that few people were going to understand it and i would be outcast because of it. but its His will, not mine. and i want to be with Him. i know that i dont always say the right things, right now i believe im in a season of practice. some times i say things and then later on God brings them to my attention and then revises what i said.

i understand completely where you all are coming from, but if i were to deny what i believe i might as well deny God Himself.

i am not perfect, by far, and i dont know all the answers, but God is leading me to be where im supposed to be.

[ayin jade]

i am not perfect, by far, and i dont know all the answers, but God is leading me to be where im supposed to be.

Perhaps He has led you here so you can learn what is true.

[Guest Butero]

like i said, i knew that when i started this, it wouldnt be nicely welcomed. what you believe is right, is right for YOU, in your walk with God.

two weeks after coming to know God, He put in on my heart that we are all missing something. and He has done an amazing work. i never thought i would believe in God let alone want to change the world with Him. He let me know from the get-go that few people were going to understand it and i would be outcast because of it. but its His will, not mine. and i want to be with Him. i know that i dont always say the right things, right now i believe im in a season of practice. some times i say things and then later on God brings them to my attention and then revises what i said.

i understand completely where you all are coming from, but if i were to deny what i believe i might as well deny God Himself.

i am not perfect, by far, and i dont know all the answers, but God is leading me to be where im supposed to be.

We don't start out knowing everything, and we don't know it all, regardless of how long we have been studying scripture. Just stay in the Bible and seek God's help to understand it.

[Gods_girl111]

i am not perfect, by far, and i dont know all the answers, but God is leading me to be where im supposed to be.

Perhaps He has led you here so you can learn what is true.

maybe.. or maybe He led me here to spread a little light on what this world as led people to believe. only He knows.

[Guest Butero]

i am not perfect, by far, and i dont know all the answers, but God is leading me to be where im supposed to be.

Perhaps He has led you here so you can learn what is true.

maybe.. or maybe He led me here to spread a little light on what this world as led people to believe. only He knows.

I don't believe what I do because the world led me to believe it. I have read the Bible through more than a dozen times and the New Testament more than 20 times. I have been studying the Bible since I got saved 29 years ago.