John 1:18

[Guest whatistruth]

If Jesus is God that means he was God on Earth correct?What does John1:18 say have not seen God at any time....Thousands seen Jesus!!!-----have not seen God at ANYTIME that means even on earth so if Jesus is God and was God while on earth then John 1:18 is wrong........but we know it's not don't we.....

Edited September 19, 2004 by whatistruth

[Trinity]

If Jesus is God that means he was God on Earth correct?What does John1:18 say have not seen God at any time....Thousands seen Jesus!!!-----have not seen God at ANYTIME that means even on earth so if Jesus is God and was God while on earth then John 1:18 is wrong........

No, no one has ever seen God the father... Don't take it out of context.

John 1

18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.

So it says no one has ever seen God the Father except God the Son who sits at the fathers side.

Next time finish the verse.

[larryt]

If Jesus is God that means he was God on Earth correct?What does John1:18 say have not seen God at any time....Thousands seen Jesus!!!-----have not seen God at ANYTIME that means even on earth so if Jesus is God and was God while on earth then John 1:18 is wrong........but we know it's not don't we.....

This is not an easy statement to answer. For either Jesus was lying because there are several people from the OT who claim that they have seen God;

Ge 32:30  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

Jud 13:22  And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

Ex 24:10  And they saw the God of Israel: and [there was] under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in [his] clearness.

Isa 6:5

[Trinity]

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I said nothing bad... I just gave away an answer...

[larryt]

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Thanks

LT

[Trinity]

sorry :x:

I deleted the answer to the question...

[Botz]

When there are apparent contradictions to the word of G-d...dig a little deeper because G-d is not a man that He should lie.

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?

We get an example of this right from the 'get go' in Genesis..

Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

...and we see that death was not immediate but it entered the Human race...whereas we might have been forgiven for thinking that Adam and Eve would have keeled over dead as soon as they ate the forbidden fruit.

Likewise when considering accounts of no man can see G-d and live...we have to take into account the full import of these words...and see if there is a distinction of the L-rd G-d Almighty in His full glory...or times when the L-rd reveals Himself so that man might catch a glimpse as it were.

[Guest whatistruth]

Look again at the wording,seen God at ANYTIME.ANYTIME tells me if Jesus is God then when he was on Earth he was God and ANYTIME would come into play.Man would never see God on earth at ANYTIME.Jesus would not be God because thousands seen him.....think about it.Jesus himself said God is a spirit <John4:23>and those worshiping God must worship God in spirit and truth.

Jesus also said a spirit has no flesh and bones Luke 24:39.Jesus said God is a Spirit not a human but a spirit and if man put his own theory and goes by his theory thats adding to the "scrolls"

[ted]

whatistruth,

Several times now you have used scraps of Scripture to push your doubt of God's Word upon the people here at WB.

If you are honestly trying to seek answers to your questions about the Bible, then fine, but I have this sneaking suspicion that you seek to try and confuse some here and shake their faith in God's Word.

Your one stumbling block is that we have God's Word to guide us!

Are you Saved?

t.

[other one]

If Jesus is God that means he was God on Earth correct?What does John1:18 say have not seen God at any time....Thousands seen Jesus!!!-----have not seen God at ANYTIME that means even on earth so if Jesus is God and was God while on earth then John 1:18 is wrong........but we know it's not don't we.....

Whatistruth, I don't understand why you start all these different threads instead of putting all the scripture together that you seem to be bringing up in some kind of a logical thought process of what all this means. I don't mean to hijack your thread here, but can you tell me what your ultimate point is with all the questions in so many different places????