Bible Prophecy and The mark of The Beast

[other one]

I will only take the time to say I disagree. 1 or 2 seems more appropiate;

hey y'all...so....should i worry 'cause my birthdate is 7666? eek!

Oh, just to take note that your life is about half over. What have you done with the first half???

[Paige929]

This Occult origin symbol is a six point star with six triangles or pyramids around a six sided middle.

1 John 2:18-19 (KJV)

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Romans 9:6 (KJV)

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

John 8:43-45 (KJV)

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Romans 11:28 (KJV)

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

They are still the chosen people of God which he loves... and their rejection of him (Jesus) breaks his heart (Luke 19:41-44) and opens them up to the deception of the false messiah who will convince them he is the true Messiah and invoke under the Occult symbol (Star of David / Seal of Solomon which is much older than they are) a Christ-less form of Judaism (which is the covenant he affirms in Daniel 9:27 and reneges on in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel). Had the accepted Messiah they would not have been vulnerable to this deception. .

[Paige929]

Jacob...Your information was excellent...whether written by you or your father... You are right on. I have studied the Bible and prophetic scriptures for years. I saw nothing misleading with anything you wrote. Please keep posting and friends keep listening. With Turkey pulling out their ambassador from Israel, you must realize this is just another incident that so closely relates to the allignment with Russia and the countries who march against Israel...Please read Ezekiel 38 - 39. Will the church be here to witness this? We can never say for sure...but I lean toward the Rapture preceding this event! Even so...come soon, Lord Jesus!

[Bold Believer]

Jacob...Your information was excellent...whether written by you or your father... You are right on. I have studied the Bible and prophetic scriptures for years. I saw nothing misleading with anything you wrote. Please keep posting and friends keep listening. With Turkey pulling out their ambassador from Israel, you must realize this is just another incident that so closely relates to the allignment with Russia and the countries who march against Israel...Please read Ezekiel 38 - 39. Will the church be here to witness this? We can never say for sure...but I lean toward the Rapture preceding this event! Even so...come soon, Lord Jesus!

Please...not the whole already disproven "Gog is Russia" stuff again. Gog is NOT Russia. The prophesy in Ezekiel and the prophesy in Revelation are remarkably different. The Gog of Ezekiel is the Scythians. The Gog of Revelation is Satan himself.

Gog also has nothing to do with the Mark of the Beast, regardless of which Gog you refer to. Ezekiel's Gog was long before the Mark. Revelation's Gog is after the Mark (and that is regardless of whether you're a pre-mil or other belief).

[Massorite]

TO: your friend Jacob

Posted Today, 06:35 PM

The link you supplied does not work: http://democrats.sen....-as-passed.pdf

However, if you were trying to link to the fda-implantable device I have a link for that one, in a PDF format.

My link www.gospelmagazine.org.uk/fda-implantable-device.pdf-

What ever man makes can always be used for evil, this device at this moment in time was designed to help, but the information that is programmed into can always be replaced with some other form of information. { I am a Former RFID Engineer, Packaging Engineer, }

Actually there is now an ink that can be read from up to 4ft away by a reader.

Cattle branding comes to the 21st Century

High-tech tattoo more than a pretty picture

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Somark Innovations, a small company working out of Saint Louis, has successfully tested an RFID tattoo, on cows, mice and rats: enabling an identifying number embedded under the skin to be read from over a meter away.

Implanting identification numbers into animals is nothing new: in the UK pets travelling abroad, and returning, must have an identification chip inside them, but these are expensive and relatively large (12mm by 2mm in diameter), and the readers have a very restricted range.

The system developed by Somark uses an array of needles to quickly inject a pattern of dots into each animal, with the pattern changing for each injection. This pattern can then be read from over a meter away using a proprietary reader operating at high frequency.

Traditional radio frequency identification (RFID) technologies use tags stapled to the ears of animals, but these are much more expensive and have a habit of tearing out too, which is unpleasant for the animal as well as inconvenient for the farmer. The systems currently used for pets are internal, so can't tear out, but are much more expensive again.

Somark are in the process of raising money to exploit the technology, and point out that what works for animals can, of course, also work for people; identifying Military Personnel as one of their secondary markets, after cattle and other livestock.

For more info on this put "RFID TATTOO" into your search box.

[other one]

[sicklestein]

In 1990 I had a very interesting dream... The antichrist was introduced as, {THE NEW ECONOMIC LEADER}

With financial collapse looming on the horizon, I urge everyone to please pay attention... WATCH and PRAY

Blessings, Sicklestein

[Bible2]

your friend Jacob said:

Let’s take this thing further shall we if you think that micro chipping is not going to happen...

While microchipping could very well happen, it won't be the "mark of the beast" (Revelation 13:16-17, Revelation 16:2). For Revelation 13:17b-18 shows that the mark will be only the name or the gematrial number of the name of the individual man who is the Antichrist (the beast). Also, the original Greek of Revelation 13:16 shows that the mark will be placed only "on", not inside, people's right hands or foreheads; and probably through scarification. For one of the definitions of "charagma" (the original Greek word used in Revelation 13:16 to refer to the mark) is a scratch or etching, and scarification is the scratching or etching of the skin to leave a permanent mark. The reason people could be given the mark is to serve as a public, visible indicator that they are loyal worshippers of the Antichrist (the beast) (Revelation 13:4,8).

In their devotion to the Antichrist as God (Revelation 13:8, 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36), some people could gladly be willing to have his name engraved on their right palms, just as lovers in the past were sometimes known to engrave the initials of their loved ones on their palms (cf. also Isaiah 49:16). Other people could gladly be willing to have the Antichrist's name engraved on their foreheads, thinking (mistakenly) that they're fulfilling the idea of Revelation 22:4, which refers to the future point in time when Jesus will have the name of God literally written on the foreheads of all obedient Christians (Revelation 3:12). The miracle-working False Prophet of the Antichrist, who will be the one to cause everyone to be marked with the mark of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:16-18), could even convince people that he (the False Prophet) is Jesus returned (but he won't say that he's Christ/God, for he and the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is Christ/God: 1 John 2:22).

Instead of having the name of the Antichrist engraved on their right hands or foreheads, some people will have the gematrial number of his name (Revelation 13:17-18) engraved on their right hands or foreheads. The gematrial number of the Antichrist's name is 666 (Revelation 13:17b-18). But because some people could refuse to have this number placed on their bodies, in order to make a mark of 666 acceptable to all people, it could be disguised to look like something else in those cases where people demand something other than "666". For example, it could be disguised in some cases to look like "777", "WWW", "VVV", "|| || ||", or "FFF". For the sixth letter of the ancient Hebrew alphabet (Vav) represents the number 6, but it looks like a "7", and it's transliterated into English either as a "W" or a "V". Also, two thin vertical lines "||" represent the number 6 on many UPC codes. And the letter "F" also has a numerical value of 6, in English gematria.

In a curious coincidence, "FFF" also stands for an extremely powerful type of nuclear bomb: Fission-Fusion-Fission. Could this be the type of bomb with which the ten kings of the Antichrist's empire will burn up the cities of the world near the end of the coming tribulation (Revelation 17:12,16-17a, Revelation 16:19, Revelation 19:2,11)?

Those assigned to have the mark placed on their foreheads (instead of on their right hands) could be those who will be an elite, illumined, cognoscenti class of Gnostic Luciferians who alone will have been given knowledge of the ultimate secrets of the Antichrist's Gnostic Luciferianism. The Antichrist will be both a Luciferian (Revelation 13:4) and a Gnostic, denying that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3), and forbidding marriage and the eating of meat (1 Timothy 4:1-3). The cream of his cognoscenti could be a faux 144,000, consisting of male virgins (as a counterfeit of Revelation 14:4) who have never eaten meat. If they receive the mark of the Antichrist's name (instead of the number of his name) on their foreheads, this will be as a counterfeit of YHWH's 144,000 in Revelation 14:1. But the Antichrist won't pretend that he's YHWH, just as he won't pretend that he's Christ. Instead, as a Gnostic he will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36). And his Gnostic denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3) will disqualify him (under his mistaken Gnostic doctrine) from being the Christ.

Edited October 13, 2011 by Bible2

[other one]

I really don't think that any of us have to worry about the mark of the beast, for it seems in reading and rereading Revelation chapter 13 that those who refuse to worship the first beast will not be given the opportunity of taking the mark. If we fight the beast we'll be either killed or go into captivity (prison or slave). I don't see anywhere that the mark is forced on anyone, and since Jesus that no one could snatch us from the hand of the Father, I don't see how they could possibly trick us into taking the mark.

I think it will be an out in the open choice for it reads that everyone who is not written in the book of life will worship the beast.

[Bible2]

other one said:

I don't see anywhere that the mark is forced on anyone...

That's right; no reference has been made to that.

other one said:

...and since Jesus that no one could snatch us from the hand of the Father,...

John 10:28-29 means that saved people will never perish so long as they remain in God's hand, and that no one outside of a saved person can ever take him out of God's hand. But John 10:28-29 doesn't mean that saved people are imprisoned in God's hand, that saved people can't wrongly employ their free will to jump out of God's hand themselves, such as by committing apostasy, to the ultimate loss of their salvation (Hebrews 6:4-8, John 15:6, 2 Timothy 2:12).

Also, John 10:28-29 doesn't mean that God himself can't in the end cast saved people out of his hand, that they can't in the end lose their salvation, if they don't continue in God's goodness (Romans 11:20-22), such as by wrongly employing their free will to commit sin without repentance (Hebrews 10:26-29, 1 Corinthians 9:27, Luke 12:45-46), or by wrongly employing their free will to become utterly lazy without repentance (Matthew 25:26,30, John 15:2a, Romans 2:6-8).

other one said:

...I don't see how they could possibly trick us into taking the mark.

They could trick us into accepting the Antichrist's mark by first tricking us into accepting his religion, which won't have to say that Jesus is evil, or turn us against Jesus. For not only the church, but almost the entire world reveres Jesus, at least as being a good man. The Antichrist could confirm this basic world belief, but simply (in his words) "clarify" that while Jesus is indeed a good man, Jesus himself isn't the Christ or the Son of God (1 John 2:22). No doubt the Antichrist will also deny that Jesus died on the Cross for our sins, as this, just as believing that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God (John 20:31, John 3:36), is one of the core beliefs of the gospel by which people become saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

So what the Antichrist could do is keep the idea of a good Jesus, but strip it of everything by which Jesus saves people from hell. And this wouldn't require that the Antichrist deny a second coming of Jesus. Indeed, the Antichrist and his False Prophet (Revelation 19:20) could even try to employ to their own ends the Biblical prophecy of the second coming of Jesus, as well as the Muslim prophecy which says that the miracle-working prophet Jesus will return bodily from heaven in the last days to bring the whole earth into the worship of the true God. For the False Prophet could claim that he is Jesus, returned to bring the whole earth into the worship of the true God, and he could perform amazing miracles (Revelation 13:13) as purported proof of his claim (cf. John 3:2). (This is why it's so important to know when and how the real Jesus' second coming will happen: Matthew 24:29-31, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17, Revelation 19:7-20:6, Zechariah 14:3-21.)

Once the False Prophet by his amazing miracles has brought the world under his spell (Revelation 13:13-17, Revelation 19:20), including many Muslims and Christians who may not care much for scriptural dogma, but could go wild over his signs and wonders, he could begin to (in his words) "restore" to the world "the real message which was spoken by me (Jesus) at my first coming, and by the great prophet Mohammed, but which message became corrupted by power-hungry men when they copied and changed the early manuscripts of the Bible and the Koran". He could then gradually initiate the world into the Antichrist's Gnostic Luciferianism (1 John 4:3, Revelation 13:4-6), a religion which could have existed since ancient times in some "mystery" cults, and which still exists today in the highest degree of initiation of a worldwide secret society.

The False Prophet could miraculously call fire down from heaven (Revelation 13:13) as purported proof that Lucifer (the dragon) and the Antichrist (the beast) are the true God (Revelation 13:4,8). This would be a counterfeit of how the true prophet Elijah miraculously called fire down from heaven to prove that YHWH is the true God (1 Kings 18:37-39).

The person that the Antichrist will revile is YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36), whom many people (even some Christians) mistakenly think of as being (in their words) "the God of only the Old Testament, that cruel and hateful God who ordered people to commit genocide and kill babies (e.g. 1 Samuel 15:3), while Jesus came and preached love for everyone (Matthew 5:44)".

The truth is that Jesus confirmed that the God of the Old Testament, YHWH (Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18), is the same as the God of the New Testament (Mark 12:29-31). Jesus died for our sins in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy (Isaiah 53, cf. 1 Peter 2:24), and rose from the dead in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy (Psalms 16:10, cf. Acts 2:31). He died to establish the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28) which YHWH had foretold in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 31:31-34). And Jesus died to bring about the defeat of Satan (Hebrews 2:14) which YHWH had foretold in the Old Testament from the very beginning in the book of Genesis (Genesis 3:15).

Nonetheless, building on many people's misconceptions of YHWH as being (in their words) "the cruel God of the Old Testament", no doubt one of the Antichrist's chief blasphemies against YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36) will be that YHWH is an evil god. This is one of the ancient blasphemies of Gnosticism, another being the antichrist lie that Christ isn't in the flesh (1 John 4:3). The world will be deceived into completely rejecting YHWH and worshipping Satan and the Antichrist instead (Revelation 13:4-8, Revelation 12:9). Satan could be worshipped not as "Satan", which most everyone sees as a bad name (it means "Adversary"), but as "Lucifer" (Isaiah 14:12), which means "the morning star". The Antichrist could lie and say that it's YHWH who is the true "Satan", the true "Adversary" of mankind.

Because the Antichrist and his False Prophet (possibly masquerading as Jesus) will deny that Jesus is the Christ (1 John 2:22) and will deny that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3), and because they will bring the world into the worship of Lucifer instead (Revelation 13:4), they could say that (the non-flesh) Lucifer is the Christ, that the new name of Christ (Revelation 3:12c) is "Lucifer Christ". For just as "Lucifer" means "the morning star", so Christ is the morning star (Revelation 22:16b). Also, Christ identified himself with the serpent (John 3:14), and Lucifer (the devil) is the serpent (Revelation 12:9). Also, Christ said "Ye are gods" (John 10:34), and it was the serpent who said "ye shall be as gods" (Genesis 3:5).

The truth is that Lucifer fell from his office of morning star (Isaiah 14:12) and became Satan (cf. Luke 10:18); Jesus the Christ has taken over the office of morning star (Revelation 22:16). And Jesus the Christ identified himself only with the brass serpent on the pole in Numbers 21:8-9 (John 3:14), which typified Jesus the Christ's crucifixion for our sins (John 19:16, Matthew 26:28). And in John 10:34, Jesus the Christ (John 20:31) was quoting YHWH in Psalms 82:6-7, which shows that even though humans have the knowledge of good and evil as gods do (Genesis 3:22), they will still die like humans (Psalms 82:7), contradicting the serpent's lie (Genesis 3:4).

Nonetheless, the Antichrist could falsely say that Lucifer is the Christ and the true and beneficent God of mankind, and that the False Prophet is the miracle-working prophet Jesus (John 3:2, Acts 3:22-24), returned to point the world to the true Christ/God. The Antichrist could falsely say that he (the Antichrist) is the human/divine Son of Lucifer, who must be worshipped as God along with Lucifer (Revelation 13:4,8). This would be similar to how Biblical Christians now rightly worship the human/divine Jesus Christ (John 1:1,14) as God (the Son) along with God the Father (John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8).

Near the end of the coming tribulation of Revelation chapters 6-18, unclean spirits like frogs will come out of the mouths of Lucifer (the dragon), the Antichrist (the beast) and the False Prophet (Revelation 16:13), and these unclean spirits like frogs will go forth and perform amazing miracles to convince all the armies of the world to gather together at Armageddon (Har Megiddo: Mount Megiddo in northern Israel) (Revelation 16:16) in an attempt to fight and defeat YHWH himself (Revelation 16:14). After gathering together at Armageddon, all the armies will then travel south and pillage Jerusalem, right before the real Jesus (who is YHWH: John 10:30) returns from heaven and defeats them completely (Zechariah 14:2-21, Revelation 19:20-20:3).

So the second coming of Jesus Christ will be a total shock to the unsaved people (and to any by-that-time deceived Christians) of the world. They will have been expecting to wage war against an Old Testament god named YHWH with the help of the good Jesus (played by the False Prophet) and with the help of the true and beneficent Christ/God (played by Lucifer) and with the help of the good Son of God (played by the Antichrist) and with the help of the good angels of God (played by the fallen angels of Lucifer: Revelation 12:9b). But then instead of some evil god appearing in the sky, the world could see the glorious sign of the Cross (cf. Matthew 24:30), the symbol of the good YHWH dying for our sins (Acts 20:28b). And then the world will see the glorious appearance of the real Jesus (Matthew 24:30b, Revelation 1:7), sitting on a white horse descending from the sky (Revelation 19:11).

"Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus" (Revelation 22:20). "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come" (Revelation 22:17).

When the unsaved people of the world realize, the moment they see the real Jesus returning, how thoroughly they have been duped (by the devil, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet), and when they see in the sky all the holy, mighty angels (Matthew 25:31, 2 Thessalonians 1:7) of the true Christ, the true Son of God, and the good YHWH, who are all the one and the same Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the unsaved people of the world could utterly mourn and wail for themselves (Matthew 24:30, Revelation 1:7), knowing in their spirits that Jesus has returned in wrath to destroy most of them for their unrepentant sins (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, Revelation 19:15).

other one said:

...it reads that everyone who is not written in the book of life will worship the beast.

Saved people can have their names blotted out of the book of life if they don't "overcome" (Revelation 3:5, cf. Revelation 2:26, Hebrews 6:11-12, Hebrews 3:6,12,14, Matthew 24:9-13).

An example of saved people "overcoming" (Greek: nikao, G3528) (Revelation 3:5) or "getting the victory" (nikao) (Revelation 15:2) is found later in the book of Revelation, in Revelation 15:2, which refers to those saved people who will be willing to be killed by the coming Antichrist instead of worshipping him to save their lives during the coming worldwide persecution against Christians (Revelation 13:7-10). Christians will be able to spiritually "overcome" the Antichrist and the devil by not loving their lives unto the death (Revelation 12:11).

But it's also possible for Christians to fail to "overcome", and so in the end to lose their salvation (Revelation 3:5), if they're fearful (Revelation 21:7-8) of being tortured or killed (Matthew 10:28, Revelation 2:10) to the point where they will wrongly employ their free will to renounce Jesus Christ and his gospel, to commit apostasy (Hebrews 6:4-8, John 15:6), in order to keep from getting tortured and killed (Mark 8:35-38, 2 Timothy 2:12, Matthew 24:9-13, Matthew 13:21, Luke 8:13).

Edited October 14, 2011 by Bible2