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[~candice~]

It makes one sad to think how dark one's soul must be to want to do those things to themselves.

To the extreme yes, but, I always think this about women who can't leave the house without their hair done and make up on, fashion clothes on . An excessive focus on appearance is never really good.

[nebula]

It makes one sad to think how dark one's soul must be to want to do those things to themselves.

To the extreme yes, but, I always think this about women who can't leave the house without their hair done and make up on, fashion clothes on . An excessive focus on appearance is never really good.

But I think these examples are not focusing on appearance, but rather hiding their true self.

[~candice~]

In the extreme Neb... those people in the images have a problem, but so do some of the extreme make up photos I see out there, yuck! Both extremes are bad.

[Botz]

I cannot understand tatoos or body piercings...to me all the tatoo and piercing parlours I have seen are darkly sinister gothic abodes that display a selection of tatoo designs available, many of them grotesque and hideously foul, representing skulls, weapons and evil looking demonic creatures...of course amongst all these you can find a rose, or a more tasteful emblem, but I have to ask why any believer would want something done to their temple in a place like this....surely its not rocket science to see that it gathers mostly people who revel in these images, and others who have a sort of fetish about building up more piercings. To me it seems to originate from the 'pit' ...why would Believers want to identify with a worldly fad that certainly has a core clientele that are probably Satan worshippers. Am I missing something here? ( I remember seeing Todd Bentley and just shaking my head at the mixed message it sent out).

A baffled....Botz

[nebula]

In the extreme Neb... those people in the images have a problem, but so do some of the extreme make up photos I see out there, yuck! Both extremes are bad.

Actually, I understand what you mean and agree. I just have not run across too many maked-up girls that struck me as hiding behind their make-up in the same way those images did.

But you are correct. That's one of the reasons I chose not to wear make-up - I don't want to become in bondage to feeling ugly without it.

[~candice~]

I cannot understand tatoos or body piercings...to me all the tatoo and piercing parlours I have seen are darkly sinister gothic abodes that display a selection of tatoo designs available, many of them grotesque and hideously foul, representing skulls, weapons and evil looking demonic creatures...of course amongst all these you can find a rose, or a more tasteful emblem, but I have to ask why any believer would want something done to their temple in a place like this....surely its not rocket science to see that it gathers mostly people who revel in these images, and others who have a sort of fetish about building up more piercings. To me it seems to originate from the 'pit' ...why would Believers want to identify with a worldly fad that certainly has a core clientele that are probably Satan worshippers. Am I missing something here? ( I remember seeing Todd Bentley and just shaking my head at the mixed message it sent out).

A baffled....Botz

Hi, Pa

Well it used to be that the only people who got tattoos were miscreants and the like but I feel the tide has turned and now the clientele are much more varied and consequently the younger generations no longer share in generalisations about tattoos as older generations do.

Gone is the time where tattoos are only of skulls or gang symbols etc... I've seen some truly beautiful subtle tattoos that were not satanic at all. My favourite is "Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path" wrapped around a believing woman's ankle. Very subtle, understated and what I think is beautiful. I've also seen some great subtle crosses.

Gone also is the day when a person was either inked all over or not at all... there seems to be a group of people who are happy with one and don't need to look like a Zebra . Tattoos are no longer a symbol of belonging to that alternative way of life, or at least, that is how some younger generations view them.

The only real issue I see with tattoos is that some people still hold ideas as you do which sets a bad witness, not because it is bad, but because others retain some sense that tattoos are a statement in favour of an anti social anti God-fearing attitude.

I don't feel there is a significant difference, biblically, between tattoos and piercings, and other things people do to their bodies in order to enhance their look.

I feel I didn't make my point well... and I've nothing against ya

[Botz]

I cannot understand tatoos or body piercings...to me all the tatoo and piercing parlours I have seen are darkly sinister gothic abodes that display a selection of tatoo designs available, many of them grotesque and hideously foul, representing skulls, weapons and evil looking demonic creatures...of course amongst all these you can find a rose, or a more tasteful emblem, but I have to ask why any believer would want something done to their temple in a place like this....surely its not rocket science to see that it gathers mostly people who revel in these images, and others who have a sort of fetish about building up more piercings. To me it seems to originate from the 'pit' ...why would Believers want to identify with a worldly fad that certainly has a core clientele that are probably Satan worshippers. Am I missing something here? ( I remember seeing Todd Bentley and just shaking my head at the mixed message it sent out).

A baffled....Botz

Hi, Pa

Well it used to be that the only people who got tattoos were miscreants and the like but I feel the tide has turned and now the clientele are much more varied and consequently the younger generations no longer share in generalisations about tattoos as older generations do.

Gone is the time where tattoos are only of skulls or gang symbols etc... I've seen some truly beautiful subtle tattoos that were not satanic at all. My favourite is "Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path" wrapped around a believing woman's ankle. Very subtle, understated and what I think is beautiful. I've also seen some great subtle crosses.

Gone also is the day when a person was either inked all over or not at all... there seems to be a group of people who are happy with one and don't need to look like a Zebra . Tattoos are no longer a symbol of belonging to that alternative way of life, or at least, that is how some younger generations view them.

The only real issue I see with tattoos is that some people still hold ideas as you do which sets a bad witness, not because it is bad, but because others retain some sense that tattoos are a statement in favour of an anti social anti God-fearing attitude.

I don't feel there is a significant difference, biblically, between tattoos and piercings, and other things people do to their bodies in order to enhance their look.

I feel I didn't make my point well... and I've nothing against ya

Lol....I am none the wiser really sis.

And I reckon Butero (who incredibly enough agrees with my perspective) is a lot younger than I am...so it probably isn't a generation 'thang'.

It is no big deal to me as I have never had to worry about it, but I just find it a bit of an odd thing to get done...especially the mutilations piercings....and why conform to worldly fads anyway.

[~candice~]

Botz, do you take issue with ear piercing? I don't do it to conform to the world at all. I have my own motivations and it's got nothing at all to do with others.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

I cannot understand tatoos or body piercings...to me all the tatoo and piercing parlours I have seen are darkly sinister gothic abodes that display a selection of tatoo designs available, many of them grotesque and hideously foul, representing skulls, weapons and evil looking demonic creatures...of course amongst all these you can find a rose, or a more tasteful emblem, but I have to ask why any believer would want something done to their temple in a place like this....surely its not rocket science to see that it gathers mostly people who revel in these images, and others who have a sort of fetish about building up more piercings. To me it seems to originate from the 'pit' ...why would Believers want to identify with a worldly fad that certainly has a core clientele that are probably Satan worshippers. Am I missing something here? ( I remember seeing Todd Bentley and just shaking my head at the mixed message it sent out).

A baffled....Botz

I agree with you Botz. This desire to get symbols and pictures printed all over one's body is demonically inspired. To me, it is no differen't than taking a beauiful church building and putting grafiti all over it and calling it art. We are supposed to be the temple of the Holy Ghost. Tattoos do nothing to inhance that temple. You are actually paying someone to cover your body in ink. You are destroying the natural image God gave you, and unlike make-up and jewelry, it is an actual permanent change. It is not the same as simply wearing something to make one look good that washes off or that can be easily removed.

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you, I am the LORD. Lev. 19:28.

What is behind the tattoo craze? Is it trying to be like everyone else, simple peer pressure? Look at all the people that suddenly get it in their head they have to have a tattoo, and then spend time trying to figure out what they want it to be? Will it be a flower, a butterfly, something original? In times past, you would see someone in the military get a flag or an eagle, because the picture meant something to them. It wasn't so much they had to get a tattoo, but they wanted a particular symbol to recognize their service to the country. Today, people become obscessed with the idea of getting a tattoo, and what the picture is becomes a second thought. To me, this is clearly the work of Satan, who hates us partially because we were created in the image of God. He is trying to change that image.

Graffiti? I want one of my stillborn sons footprints with his birthdate and name. Exactly how would that be called demonically inspired? Such a stigma these days...I have piercings including my tongue, lobes are stretched to a 0g, and second hole in lobes is a 12g I think. Also my labret (center below lower lip). Each of my piercings happened at a time in my life when I would have preferred to have been dead. They are very much a part of who I am...in ways they represent my survival...remind me to keep going.

[~candice~]

I know many parents who have lost a child, pre or post birth, have tattoos in remembrance of them. Actually I have one piercing for each child I have on the other side .