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I think that we will not have any earthly relationships such as Mother , Father, Children and we will recognize everyone we see . I can't wait to see many loved ones and of course all those I have thought about and read of in the bible. I can't wait to see them all , but mostly my blessed redeemer Lord Jesus.


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Example..is that my older brother had passed away as a baby before I was born. I believe is in Heaven. If I am in heaven will I recognize him when I get there?

I have heard testimonies of people who claim having gone to Heaven and back stating to know family they've never met.

So then it's a matter of if you believe the testimonies to be real or not.


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Waiting2BwithHim, I don’t know about heaven because not much information is given us there but based on what I have read I would say we shall know one another.

I am not convinced that we will have no more sorrow and pain immediately. I should think we will go through the white throne judgment before we are consoled, and I should think this would be for both saved and unsaved. However the unsaved shall have no consolation by virtue of the fact that they did not accept God’s gift of Salvation through His Son.

Revelation 21: 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

I agree with winsomebulldog on the fact that Christians can hardly get along with one another, and something will have to change for us to do better. When is sin done away with? When there is no more sin perhaps we shall stop the infighting.

We must have a lot of misconceptions about what the Bible says, otherwise there would not be so many different denominations, when there is only one body of Christ.

Perhaps when the last enemy to be destroyed is done away with, so will sin be done away with and we will no more be tempted by it. This last enemy is death.

(1 Corinthians 15:26 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020&version=KJV

Rev. 20:14 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2020&version=KJV

Rev.21: 8 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2021&version=KJV )

The very best answer I can come up with is this;

1 John 3:2

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see

him as he is.


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If we go to heaven and if maybe other family members don't make it there... when we get to heaven and if we feel

no sorrow or pain.. will we know that our family may not have made it to heaven?

If yes will we recognize said person? Do they also get different bodies?

And the other family that may have made it to heaven will we recognize them?

Will we both remember things that happened on Earth? What about family that you never saw on Earth will we

recognize them?

Matthew 22:23-33 - (emphasis--vs. 29-30)

The same day came to him the Sadducees which say that there is no resurrection and asked him...Saying Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother...Now there were with us seven brethren and the first when he had married a wife, deceased, and having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:...Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh....Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her....(29) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. (30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.....But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying...I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

The Sadducees didn't believe in a bodily resurrection and here some of them came to Jesus. First they bring up what Moses said in the law in how if a wife's husband dies and they didn't have any children then his brother was to take her as his own wife and have children for his brother. In there example to Jesus they start out with the first husband dying she has no children so his brother takes her as his wife and they continue this all the way up till the seventh husband and he dies also and there are no more brothers to take her for his wife. The wife being left alone and no children and all the seven brothers all had her as their wife. They worked themselves up to their question which was what Moses had said in the law about if a husband dies and has no children then his brother was to take her as his wife and bring up seed in his brothers stead.

As mentioned already the Sadducees did not believe in a bodily resurrection they just believed when you died you died as all the seven brothers had done according to the law of Moses taking their brothers wife as their own. Jesus taught about the bodily resurrection and knowing this they came and asked him saying since all seven brothers have had her as their wife then in the resurrection which one of the seven brothers will she be wife to.

{ This all bringing us to the place that ties into your thread "will we still know them." Jesus reply to them was that they was astray out of the way because they were ignorant, one in the scriptures and two in the power of God to raise the dead. Jesus then addresses the resurection and he says that in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but they will be as the angels of God in heaven and he went on and said that God was not the God of the dead, but of the liiving. So in heaven there will be no marriages taking place this being the case there will be no husband and wife issues. We are told that we will be as the angels of God meaning we will not have any offspring as the angels do not marry. I went through all this to show how we will be when we get to heaven.}

Matthew 12:46-50 - While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him....Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother, and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee....But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren!...For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother..

{ We have to look at the family first in how Jesus saw the family and two that we would learn and understand the family. Here in scripture we see Jesus was out talking to the people and his mother and brethren ( his earthly family members) but they had came out and desired to talk to him. At first they were not noticed but a man noticed them and told Jesus that his mother and brethren were without and that they were desiring to speak with him. Jesus answered and told the man, Who is my mother ? and who are my brethren! Then Jesus told the man that whoever does the will of his Father in heaven is his brother and sister and mother.

Jesus made it clear that it was those who did the will of his Father were his family members. In the prior scripture Jesus said that God was not the God of the dead but the God of the living. Those in our earthly family who are not doing the will of the heavenly Father are not looked upon as family members because they are spiritually dead thus looked at as if they had never been born. God said he was the God of the living being those who have been born and are alive in Christ and God said he was not the God of the dead the unregenerated. Did Jesus reject his earthly family by saying these things no, he did not as they did the will of the Father and were his family.

In my opinion it is the same with us those in our earthly family that does not do the will of the heavenly Father are not our mother, sister, or brother because they have never been born they are dead. Jesus in one passage (Matthew 8:18-22) and another disciple came to him and said Lord suffer me first to go and bury my father. Afterwards Jesus answered him Follow me; and let the dead bury the dead. When we are in heaven I believe that those in our earthly family who never were born in Christ not doing the will of our heavenly Father will not even be acknowledged by us because they never were born in Christ and it will be as they never existed in light of the scriptual text and there will be no remembrance of them in heaven.}


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If we go to heaven and if maybe other family members don't make it there... when we get to heaven and if we feel

no sorrow or pain.. will we know that our family may not have made it to heaven?

If yes will we recognize said person? Do they also get different bodies?

And the other family that may have made it to heaven will we recognize them?

Will we both remember things that happened on Earth? What about family that you never saw on Earth will we

recognize them?

I personally believe we don't become something that we aren't when we get to Heaven. How can one's mother no longer be one's mother (for example)?

Likewise, if we are "rewarded according to what we have done", how can we truly appreciate the rewards if we have no memory of what we did on earth to merit those rewards?

So I believe we will know and recognize each other and maintain the relationships we had with each other.

As for feeling no pain or sorrow - does the Bible actually say this? "Wiping away all tears" can mean He will comfort all our pains in ways we can hardly imagine.

After all, the Lord feels pain, does He not?

Revelation 21:4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away."

ESV

Revelation 21:4 - And God shall wipe away all tears from our eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. KJV

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Because Messiah Knows Us

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 10:27

And Because We Will Be Like Jesus

For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1 Corinthians 13:9-12

Why Shouldn't We The Beloved, Know Each Other

And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. Matthew 17:3-4

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If course we will recognize people. God himself is the creator of love, family, and relationships. There would be no point to making us forget the people who were so instumental in our lives. Of course many people in heaven will be strangers at first, but with eternity, we will have forever to make friends with every single person, so that eventually every single person in Heaven will become your best friend and family. There will ne no tears or sadness becausr sin and pain will be erased from existance. I don't fully understand how we can be happy if we know some loved ones are in Hell, but the Bible says we will be happy, so I trust God is more powerful than my emotion, and somehow I will still be happy even with loved ones in Hell.

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If we go to heaven and if maybe other family members don't make it there... when we get to heaven and if we feel

no sorrow or pain.. will we know that our family may not have made it to heaven?

If yes will we recognize said person? Do they also get different bodies?

And the other family that may have made it to heaven will we recognize them?

Will we both remember things that happened on Earth? What about family that you never saw on Earth will we

recognize them?

There will be two eternal existances, one being the lake of fire, and the other with the Lord. It is my opinion, from scriptures, a person's

knowledge, of who a person is, will be based on the person's "last" birth. The things Jesus said had very important meaning behind them.

God used His own creations to convey an understanding of spiritiual information, (I am the vine, you are branches; I am the shepard, you are

My sheep; etc..) Jesus' use of the phrase, "born again", wasn't a concept He thought up in the spur of the moment. There is meaning there.

Jesus also said, "Who is My mother, broithers......those who do the will of God, are My mother, brothers...." The life you started with is temporary.

Eternity starts, for the believer, when you are "born again". For the nonbeliever, imo, eternity starts when you are judged and cast into the lake

of fire.

For the believer, when he/she gets born again, you become a new creation, but you have to finish the temp. existance in the old body. That old body

still has relationships and obligations. Families have to stay together. To forget who your wife or husband and kids are, when you got born again,

would cause a break down in the family, job, and community. When you die, all those relationships and obligations come to an end. This can be a

disheartening thought for believers, who are looking to see family members, in the age to come. If they were saved, and you meet them, in the age

to come, you will know them from the 2nd birth (born again) relationship. Now,, there is great hope here. If a believer had parents or children die, they

were extremely close to, and now miss, the relationship in the age to come will be 100 times better. There will be more love and a greater closeness

to the deceased family member, in the age to come, than it ever was in the old body. Read Mark 10:29-30 to get some understanding of what kind of

family God will be giving the believer. Whenever a believer gives something up, or God takes away, He always gives back or restores, to the believer

better than what the believer had in the beginning. And family is part of that promise.

Now, you may ask, will we forget family members who were not saved? IMO, the believer will know everyone who ever existed, in the age to come.

The believer will be there when all the non-believers get judged. Its the "born again" relationships that will be different. Grandpa John Doe will probably

be viewed one of two ways: 1) As John Doe, a sinner who refused Jesus and now being judged, or 2) John Doe, a very close and loved brother in Christ Jesus.

I highly doubt any believer will say, "Hey, there goes grandpa into the lake of fire.." or "Hey, Peter, John, meet my grandpa."

For the non-believer, one birth, his/her memory of family and people in other relationships, of this age, will stay with them, imo, based on

the parable told in Luke 16:19-31


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If we go to heaven and if maybe other family members don't make it there... when we get to heaven and if we feel

no sorrow or pain.. will we know that our family may not have made it to heaven?

If yes will we recognize said person? Do they also get different bodies?

And the other family that may have made it to heaven will we recognize them?

Will we both remember things that happened on Earth? What about family that you never saw on Earth will we

recognize them?

Imagine a love for God, for Jesus, for fellow believers that far outweighs love for siblings, mates, parents, loved ones, and even love for self.

Now imagine someone having a choice to go against all that. Would you still have remorse over those who freely chose to oppose God?

Would you have remorse over one who does harm to a baby?

Would you have pity on one who bullies your sibling?

It's hard for us to put things into the perspective we will have on the other side. But now wait a minute... is it really just for the other side?

Luke 14:26-35 (KJV)

26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,

30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.

31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

32 Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.

33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?

35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me. 2 Samuel 12:23

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