People Don't really care

[gdemoss]

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

Oh how I understand the truth behind these words. I live in Indiana. If I am anywhere near you I will offer to come to you and show you true brotherly love. Would you like to talk by phone sometime? I have much to share and give as God has given me much.

The man who brought the gospel to me brought it with love, compassion and sympathy to whom I was in character, though I did nothing to merit his favor of me. Today he is my best friend in the whole world though he live 4 hours away. I long to be with him and spend time in fellowship. He is the closest thing to Christ I have ever met. I call him almost everyday and leave him an encouraging message on his voice mail in the spirit of the one Paul said sought him out and refreshed him.

Taylor, your right. We as a church must come together in love and it is very difficult at best to give that which you have not received from another. I imagine those souls who met with Paul at Thessalonica. They were moved by his very character as it wasn't the normal human nature they were used too.

If I can help you in any way, just ask. PM's are OK.

Gary

[taylor30]

Hello Mizzdy. I am doing a new post because I am unable to reply for some reason on another post.

Thankfully there is NO ACTUAL COMMAND to go to church. It might be suggested or recommended yes, but NOT commanded. The church is supposed to be a body. Scripture says if one member of the body suffers, the whole body is supposed to suffer. That is NOT the case in today's church. One member is able to suffer and the body ignores it. You can say that people are only human or make mistakes. It doesn't matter. Christians are supposed to live life ABOVE REPROACH. Christians are supposed to be the ABSOLUTE best people in society. I look around and I don't see anything. MANY Christians know I am suffering, but to help would interfere either their comfortable happy lives.

Even IF church were a command, church is simply an assembly of believers. Worthy is an assembly of believers. So I AM going to church when I AM on here. Command obeyed.

Taylor, are you going out and visiting sick people? Perhaps you should . Or visit widows. Or orphans.

Can you go out and practice your religion?

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

You might find you comfort each other .

But let me tell you something I learned painfully when I felt lonely and incredibly sad. 2 Cor 1. We comfort others with the comfort we have received from God. There is a spiritual lesson in this. We must learn how to sit and receive comfort from God. That is not something anyone else can teach you or impart into you. It is about sitting quietly, listening to Him, reading His Word, believing His promises. Only when you have learned to receive that comfort from God can you comfort others. That comfort is available in the here and now for you. So I urge you not to go through this bitter lonliness for no reason. Learn the lesson, learn how to receive His comfort. And then, cry out to the Lord, Lord if I am to be lonely, at least use that lonliness for your kingdom. Focus on the Lord and others above yourself. Because later on, once you've learned to receive His comfort, He can use you to comfort others. But right now, your focus is "me" and ideally we have died to self and live to serve the Lord, esteeming another higher than ourselves.

I am sure this will sound selfish but I can't get the comfort I require from God. God may be all powerful but he can't give me a hug or a shoulder to cry on. I need PHYSICAL comfort and God can't give me that. I am HUMAN and we require physical comfort which is why God said is NOT good for man to be alone.

[enoob57]

Hello Mizzdy. I am doing a new post because I am unable to reply for some reason on another post.

Thankfully there is NO ACTUAL COMMAND to go to church. It might be suggested or recommended yes, but NOT commanded. The church is supposed to be a body. Scripture says if one member of the body suffers, the whole body is supposed to suffer. That is NOT the case in today's church. One member is able to suffer and the body ignores it. You can say that people are only human or make mistakes. It doesn't matter. Christians are supposed to live life ABOVE REPROACH. Christians are supposed to be the ABSOLUTE best people in society. I look around and I don't see anything. MANY Christians know I am suffering, but to help would interfere either their comfortable happy lives.

Even IF church were a command, church is simply an assembly of believers. Worthy is an assembly of believers. So I AM going to church when I AM on here. Command obeyed.

Taylor, are you going out and visiting sick people? Perhaps you should . Or visit widows. Or orphans.

Can you go out and practice your religion?

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

You might find you comfort each other .

But let me tell you something I learned painfully when I felt lonely and incredibly sad. 2 Cor 1. We comfort others with the comfort we have received from God. There is a spiritual lesson in this. We must learn how to sit and receive comfort from God. That is not something anyone else can teach you or impart into you. It is about sitting quietly, listening to Him, reading His Word, believing His promises. Only when you have learned to receive that comfort from God can you comfort others. That comfort is available in the here and now for you. So I urge you not to go through this bitter lonliness for no reason. Learn the lesson, learn how to receive His comfort. And then, cry out to the Lord, Lord if I am to be lonely, at least use that lonliness for your kingdom. Focus on the Lord and others above yourself. Because later on, once you've learned to receive His comfort, He can use you to comfort others. But right now, your focus is "me" and ideally we have died to self and live to serve the Lord, esteeming another higher than ourselves.

I am sure this will sound selfish but I can't get the comfort I require from God. God may be all powerful but he can't give me a hug or a shoulder to cry on. I need PHYSICAL comfort and God can't give me that. I am HUMAN and we require physical comfort which is why God said is NOT good for man to be alone.

You can bang your head against this wall for the rest of your life if you want.... God knows I did through three marriages all ending in disaster and ruin- may God forgive me! BUT I strongly suggest that you yield yourself to Candice's advice because it is spot on to the answer you seek.

Hos 2:7

7 She will chase her lovers,

But not overtake them;

Yes, she will seek them, but not find them.

Then she will say,

'I will go and return to my first husband,

For then it was better for me than now.'

NKJV

for to be her last choice of all-> means you are only their security till she finds better....

God will humble your heart and destroy whatever you place before Him! Even this need of woman! Love, Steven

[taylor30]

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

Oh how I understand the truth behind these words. I live in Indiana. If I am anywhere near you I will offer to come to you and show you true brotherly love. Would you like to talk by phone sometime? I have much to share and give as God has given me much.

The man who brought the gospel to me brought it with love, compassion and sympathy to whom I was in character, though I did nothing to merit his favor of me. Today he is my best friend in the whole world though he live 4 hours away. I long to be with him and spend time in fellowship. He is the closest thing to Christ I have ever met. I call him almost everyday and leave him an encouraging message on his voice mail in the spirit of the one Paul said sought him out and refreshed him.

Taylor, your right. We as a church must come together in love and it is very difficult at best to give that which you have not received from another. I imagine those souls who met with Paul at Thessalonica. They were moved by his very character as it wasn't the normal human nature they were used too.

If I can help you in any way, just ask. PM's are OK.

Gary

Wow. That is an impressive offer. No one has offered to talk by phone before. It may take some time to be ok with that but please feel free to PM me if you find some time.

[taylor30]

Hello Mizzdy. I am doing a new post because I am unable to reply for some reason on another post.

Thankfully there is NO ACTUAL COMMAND to go to church. It might be suggested or recommended yes, but NOT commanded. The church is supposed to be a body. Scripture says if one member of the body suffers, the whole body is supposed to suffer. That is NOT the case in today's church. One member is able to suffer and the body ignores it. You can say that people are only human or make mistakes. It doesn't matter. Christians are supposed to live life ABOVE REPROACH. Christians are supposed to be the ABSOLUTE best people in society. I look around and I don't see anything. MANY Christians know I am suffering, but to help would interfere either their comfortable happy lives.

Even IF church were a command, church is simply an assembly of believers. Worthy is an assembly of believers. So I AM going to church when I AM on here. Command obeyed.

Taylor, are you going out and visiting sick people? Perhaps you should . Or visit widows. Or orphans.

Can you go out and practice your religion?

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

You might find you comfort each other .

But let me tell you something I learned painfully when I felt lonely and incredibly sad. 2 Cor 1. We comfort others with the comfort we have received from God. There is a spiritual lesson in this. We must learn how to sit and receive comfort from God. That is not something anyone else can teach you or impart into you. It is about sitting quietly, listening to Him, reading His Word, believing His promises. Only when you have learned to receive that comfort from God can you comfort others. That comfort is available in the here and now for you. So I urge you not to go through this bitter lonliness for no reason. Learn the lesson, learn how to receive His comfort. And then, cry out to the Lord, Lord if I am to be lonely, at least use that lonliness for your kingdom. Focus on the Lord and others above yourself. Because later on, once you've learned to receive His comfort, He can use you to comfort others. But right now, your focus is "me" and ideally we have died to self and live to serve the Lord, esteeming another higher than ourselves.

I am sure this will sound selfish but I can't get the comfort I require from God. God may be all powerful but he can't give me a hug or a shoulder to cry on. I need PHYSICAL comfort and God can't give me that. I am HUMAN and we require physical comfort which is why God said is NOT good for man to be alone.

You can bang your head against this wall for the rest of your life if you want.... God knows I did through three marriages all ending in disaster and ruin- may God forgive me! BUT I strongly suggest that you yield yourself to Candice's advice because it is spot on to the answer you seek.

Hos 2:7

7 She will chase her lovers,

But not overtake them;

Yes, she will seek them, but not find them.

Then she will say,

'I will go and return to my first husband,

For then it was better for me than now.'

NKJV

for to be her last choice of all-> means you are only their security till she finds better....

God will humble your heart and destroy whatever you place before Him! Even this need of woman! Love, Steven

Then no one else NEEDS a spouse either since God is enough. Married people are selfish for not allowing God to be all they need then right?

[enoob57]

Hello Mizzdy. I am doing a new post because I am unable to reply for some reason on another post.

Thankfully there is NO ACTUAL COMMAND to go to church. It might be suggested or recommended yes, but NOT commanded. The church is supposed to be a body. Scripture says if one member of the body suffers, the whole body is supposed to suffer. That is NOT the case in today's church. One member is able to suffer and the body ignores it. You can say that people are only human or make mistakes. It doesn't matter. Christians are supposed to live life ABOVE REPROACH. Christians are supposed to be the ABSOLUTE best people in society. I look around and I don't see anything. MANY Christians know I am suffering, but to help would interfere either their comfortable happy lives.

Even IF church were a command, church is simply an assembly of believers. Worthy is an assembly of believers. So I AM going to church when I AM on here. Command obeyed.

Taylor, are you going out and visiting sick people? Perhaps you should . Or visit widows. Or orphans.

Can you go out and practice your religion?

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

You might find you comfort each other .

But let me tell you something I learned painfully when I felt lonely and incredibly sad. 2 Cor 1. We comfort others with the comfort we have received from God. There is a spiritual lesson in this. We must learn how to sit and receive comfort from God. That is not something anyone else can teach you or impart into you. It is about sitting quietly, listening to Him, reading His Word, believing His promises. Only when you have learned to receive that comfort from God can you comfort others. That comfort is available in the here and now for you. So I urge you not to go through this bitter lonliness for no reason. Learn the lesson, learn how to receive His comfort. And then, cry out to the Lord, Lord if I am to be lonely, at least use that lonliness for your kingdom. Focus on the Lord and others above yourself. Because later on, once you've learned to receive His comfort, He can use you to comfort others. But right now, your focus is "me" and ideally we have died to self and live to serve the Lord, esteeming another higher than ourselves.

I am sure this will sound selfish but I can't get the comfort I require from God. God may be all powerful but he can't give me a hug or a shoulder to cry on. I need PHYSICAL comfort and God can't give me that. I am HUMAN and we require physical comfort which is why God said is NOT good for man to be alone.

You can bang your head against this wall for the rest of your life if you want.... God knows I did through three marriages all ending in disaster and ruin- may God forgive me! BUT I strongly suggest that you yield yourself to Candice's advice because it is spot on to the answer you seek.

Hos 2:7

7 She will chase her lovers,

But not overtake them;

Yes, she will seek them, but not find them.

Then she will say,

'I will go and return to my first husband,

For then it was better for me than now.'

NKJV

for to be her last choice of all-> means you are only their security till she finds better....

God will humble your heart and destroy whatever you place before Him! Even this need of woman! Love, Steven

Then no one else NEEDS a spouse either since God is enough. Married people are selfish for not allowing God to be all they need then right?

1 Co 7:29-31

29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, 30 those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, 31 and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away.

NKJV

What do yo think? Love, Steven

[~candice~]

Hello Mizzdy. I am doing a new post because I am unable to reply for some reason on another post.

Thankfully there is NO ACTUAL COMMAND to go to church. It might be suggested or recommended yes, but NOT commanded. The church is supposed to be a body. Scripture says if one member of the body suffers, the whole body is supposed to suffer. That is NOT the case in today's church. One member is able to suffer and the body ignores it. You can say that people are only human or make mistakes. It doesn't matter. Christians are supposed to live life ABOVE REPROACH. Christians are supposed to be the ABSOLUTE best people in society. I look around and I don't see anything. MANY Christians know I am suffering, but to help would interfere either their comfortable happy lives.

Even IF church were a command, church is simply an assembly of believers. Worthy is an assembly of believers. So I AM going to church when I AM on here. Command obeyed.

Taylor, are you going out and visiting sick people? Perhaps you should . Or visit widows. Or orphans.

Can you go out and practice your religion?

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

You might find you comfort each other .

But let me tell you something I learned painfully when I felt lonely and incredibly sad. 2 Cor 1. We comfort others with the comfort we have received from God. There is a spiritual lesson in this. We must learn how to sit and receive comfort from God. That is not something anyone else can teach you or impart into you. It is about sitting quietly, listening to Him, reading His Word, believing His promises. Only when you have learned to receive that comfort from God can you comfort others. That comfort is available in the here and now for you. So I urge you not to go through this bitter lonliness for no reason. Learn the lesson, learn how to receive His comfort. And then, cry out to the Lord, Lord if I am to be lonely, at least use that lonliness for your kingdom. Focus on the Lord and others above yourself. Because later on, once you've learned to receive His comfort, He can use you to comfort others. But right now, your focus is "me" and ideally we have died to self and live to serve the Lord, esteeming another higher than ourselves.

I am sure this will sound selfish but I can't get the comfort I require from God. God may be all powerful but he can't give me a hug or a shoulder to cry on. I need PHYSICAL comfort and God can't give me that. I am HUMAN and we require physical comfort which is why God said is NOT good for man to be alone.

Actually, God has provided. In His wisdom, He tells us not to avoid gathering together, as some have become accustomed. The method by which God provides that physical comfort is through His body, the Church. If you choose not to participate in His body in your local community, you are cutting that source of comfort off. Unfortunately, we cannot go to God and demand His comfort, but reject His wisdom that tells us how to receive it.

[jasoncran]

ah yes the desire to be with a wife. hmm i remember those days. got married and found out god is right. marriage alone doenst satisify and i need him to be that husband and i learn how carnal i am.

[taylor30]

Hello Mizzdy. I am doing a new post because I am unable to reply for some reason on another post.

Thankfully there is NO ACTUAL COMMAND to go to church. It might be suggested or recommended yes, but NOT commanded. The church is supposed to be a body. Scripture says if one member of the body suffers, the whole body is supposed to suffer. That is NOT the case in today's church. One member is able to suffer and the body ignores it. You can say that people are only human or make mistakes. It doesn't matter. Christians are supposed to live life ABOVE REPROACH. Christians are supposed to be the ABSOLUTE best people in society. I look around and I don't see anything. MANY Christians know I am suffering, but to help would interfere either their comfortable happy lives.

Even IF church were a command, church is simply an assembly of believers. Worthy is an assembly of believers. So I AM going to church when I AM on here. Command obeyed.

Taylor, are you going out and visiting sick people? Perhaps you should . Or visit widows. Or orphans.

Can you go out and practice your religion?

Honestly I would love to. Unfortunately I am dealing with my own crisis right now and can't show compassion that I haven't experienced myself.

You might find you comfort each other .

But let me tell you something I learned painfully when I felt lonely and incredibly sad. 2 Cor 1. We comfort others with the comfort we have received from God. There is a spiritual lesson in this. We must learn how to sit and receive comfort from God. That is not something anyone else can teach you or impart into you. It is about sitting quietly, listening to Him, reading His Word, believing His promises. Only when you have learned to receive that comfort from God can you comfort others. That comfort is available in the here and now for you. So I urge you not to go through this bitter lonliness for no reason. Learn the lesson, learn how to receive His comfort. And then, cry out to the Lord, Lord if I am to be lonely, at least use that lonliness for your kingdom. Focus on the Lord and others above yourself. Because later on, once you've learned to receive His comfort, He can use you to comfort others. But right now, your focus is "me" and ideally we have died to self and live to serve the Lord, esteeming another higher than ourselves.

I am sure this will sound selfish but I can't get the comfort I require from God. God may be all powerful but he can't give me a hug or a shoulder to cry on. I need PHYSICAL comfort and God can't give me that. I am HUMAN and we require physical comfort which is why God said is NOT good for man to be alone.

Actually, God has provided. In His wisdom, He tells us not to avoid gathering together, as some have become accustomed. The method by which God provides that physical comfort is through His body, the Church. If you choose not to participate in His body in your local community, you are cutting that source of comfort off. Unfortunately, we cannot go to God and demand His comfort, but reject His wisdom that tells us how to receive it.

Apparently you haven't been reading all my posts. I DID go to church. I DID try to fellowship. I DID give people a chance. I only stopped those things AFTER I was rejected by my so called spiritual family. Spiritual family is false. I have NEVER seen ANY Christian show as much love and compassion to a stranger as they do to their own family. I would even go on record here and say that NO ONE on this entire site would be willing to give me their address and let me just stop by for a few days. Yet that is EXACTLY what Jesus would do and if anyone TRULY believes the spiritual family of believers is just as important as the blood family, they would be only too happy to do it. In biblical times it was customary to allow a complete stranger to stay with you for 3 days. Such biblical hospitality does NOT exist today, even among the most true Christians. Unless someone on here wants to prove me wrong.

[taylor30]

ah yes the desire to be with a wife. hmm i remember those days. got married and found out god is right. marriage alone doenst satisify and i need him to be that husband and i learn how carnal i am.

Yes its VERY selfish to want companionship. It has been suggested that CHURCH is the place where we can find companionship. HOWEVER as has been pointed out REPEATEDLY God should be enough. Therefore I would be wrong to do that even in church. Therefore I would like to ask honestly to ANYONE here this question.

If GOD is TRULY all we need, how is it NOT selfish for other people to want wives and friends. Did God himself not create the institution if marriage and friendships? How is it selfish for ME to want these things when its not selfish for others?