Christ Expressed From Within

[Michae]

In Ephesians 3:17, Paul is praying "that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith". You must understand the terminology used here by Paul. He did not say he was praying for you that you have Christ in you, but rather he was praying for you that you will let Christ dwell in your hearts. You already have Christ's Spirit, and you are one with Him, but He has not come out through your mind yet.

The heart is part of the soul, which includes your mind, will and emotions. Paul is saying you have Him in spirit, now let Him come out in your soulish part also.

What you feel outside of you is a belief in an outer Christ, rather than Christ dwelling in you.

[OneLight]

In Ephesians 3:17, Paul is praying "that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith". You must understand the terminology used here by Paul. He did not say he was praying for you that you have Christ in you, but rather he was praying for you that you will let Christ dwell in your hearts. You already have Christ's Spirit, and you are one with Him, but He has not come out through your mind yet.

The heart is part of the soul, which includes your mind, will and emotions. Paul is saying you have Him in spirit, now let Him come out in your soulish part also.

What you feel outside of you is a belief in an outer Christ, rather than Christ dwelling in you.

Who are you speaking to? Everyone I know on these boards would consider this the milk of the word. I don't mean to discourage you from posting, just that you seem to be preaching to those who know this already.

[Michae]

In Ephesians 3:17, Paul is praying "that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith". You must understand the terminology used here by Paul. He did not say he was praying for you that you have Christ in you, but rather he was praying for you that you will let Christ dwell in your hearts. You already have Christ's Spirit, and you are one with Him, but He has not come out through your mind yet.

The heart is part of the soul, which includes your mind, will and emotions. Paul is saying you have Him in spirit, now let Him come out in your soulish part also.

What you feel outside of you is a belief in an outer Christ, rather than Christ dwelling in you.

Who are you speaking to? Everyone I know on these boards would consider this the milk of the word. I don't mean to discourage you from posting, just that you seem to be preaching to those who know this already.

The meat wasnt going over to good.

[OneLight]

In Ephesians 3:17, Paul is praying "that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith". You must understand the terminology used here by Paul. He did not say he was praying for you that you have Christ in you, but rather he was praying for you that you will let Christ dwell in your hearts. You already have Christ's Spirit, and you are one with Him, but He has not come out through your mind yet.

The heart is part of the soul, which includes your mind, will and emotions. Paul is saying you have Him in spirit, now let Him come out in your soulish part also.

What you feel outside of you is a belief in an outer Christ, rather than Christ dwelling in you.

Who are you speaking to? Everyone I know on these boards would consider this the milk of the word. I don't mean to discourage you from posting, just that you seem to be preaching to those who know this already.

The meat wasnt going over to good.

What meat was that???

[Michae]

To understand the birthing or what it means to be born again a little history might be helpful. In the OT salvation was of the soul. That sounds very simple because as we grew up in religion you have soul winning campaigns and everyone was encouraged to be a soul winner. The use of the word soul is really OT terminology. In the OT the saving of a soul was all there could be.

There was no saving of the spirit by Christ coming into the believers spirit because Christ was not yet in that form. Christ had not yet died on the cross, and Paul had not had his revelation of the mystery.

[mizzdy]

To understand the birthing or what it means to be born again a little history might be helpful. In the OT salvation was of the soul. That sounds very simple because as we grew up in religion you have soul winning campaigns and everyone was encouraged to be a soul winner. The use of the word soul is really OT terminology. In the OT the saving of a soul was all there could be.

There was no saving of the spirit by Christ coming into the believers spirit because Christ was not yet in that form. Christ had not yet died on the cross, and Paul had not had his revelation of the mystery.

Salvation in the OT came from faith just as it does today, no law, no circumcision, no amount of anything anyone ever did then or now brought about salvation but faith. It was from and through faith that Abram believed and its through faith today that brings us into His salvation. If you think that Gods Spirit didnt rest on faithful in the OT then you have not read the books, David was filled with God's Spirit, Moses, Elijah, the prophets. True now all have the ablitity to have His Spirit indwelling them but it was there in the OT.

It does seem you have a gnostic bent to your theology.

shalom,

Mizz

[Matthitjah]

To understand the birthing or what it means to be born again a little history might be helpful. In the OT salvation was of the soul. That sounds very simple because as we grew up in religion you have soul winning campaigns and everyone was encouraged to be a soul winner. The use of the word soul is really OT terminology. In the OT the saving of a soul was all there could be.

There was no saving of the spirit by Christ coming into the believers spirit because Christ was not yet in that form. Christ had not yet died on the cross, and Paul had not had his revelation of the mystery.

Error!

1Pe 1:19

But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

1Pe 1:20

Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Lies come from satan;

Joh 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

God is the Faher of the Living, you do err!

Lu 20:37

Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he called the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.

Lu 20:38

For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Your theology is bent and in need of correction dear friend.

You are also not willing to have your teachings examined in Light of the Word of Truth. He who takes upon himself the mantle of teacher is more accountable than the rest of us.

Peace,

Dave

[Michae]

There is so little mention of soul in the NT because once Christ was joined to the believers spirit nothing more could be done to improve the condition of that spirit. In the OT salvation was something done soulishly and the spirit (Adams nature) was to be brought under subjection.

That was tenuous work because even the greatest people in the OT had a difficult time bringing their spirit under subjection.

When Paul recieved his revelation of the mystery he understood that God did something. Man had nothing to do with this revelation at all. In a way salvation salvation had reversed it self.

Why dont some of you scholars in here start a thread of your own and lets take a look at your understanding, instead of you punching everyone around, use a little wisdom and be a little slower to speak and listen to the Spirit

Edited January 9, 2012 by Michae

[Matthitjah]

There is so little mention of soul in the NT because once Christ was joined to the believers spirit nothing more could be done to improve the condition of that spirit. In the OT salvation was something done soulishly and the spirit (Adams nature) was to be brought under subjection.

That was tenuous work because even the greatest people in the OT had a difficult time bringing their spirit under subjection.

When Paul recieved his revelation of the mystery he understood that God did something. Man had nothing to do with this revelation at all. In a way salvation salvation had reversed it self.

Why dont some of you scholars in here start a thread of your own and lets take a look at your understanding, instead of you punching everyone around, use a little wisdom and be a little slower to speak and listen to the Spirit

I am listening to the Spirit and He says to try everything we hear by the Word. I'm sorry that you present yourself as a teacher, but are unprepared to take the additional responsibility that the Teaching mantle requires.

2Ti 2:24

And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

2Ti 2:25

In meekness instructing those that oppose them; if God perhaps will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Tit 1:9

Holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to refute the opposition.

Peace,

Dave

[mizzdy]

There is so little mention of soul in the NT because once Christ was joined to the believers spirit nothing more could be done to improve the condition of that spirit. In the OT salvation was something done soulishly and the spirit (Adams nature) was to be brought under subjection.

That was tenuous work because even the greatest people in the OT had a difficult time bringing their spirit under subjection.

When Paul recieved his revelation of the mystery he understood that God did something. Man had nothing to do with this revelation at all. In a way salvation salvation had reversed it self.

Why dont some of you scholars in here start a thread of your own and lets take a look at your understanding, instead of you punching everyone around, use a little wisdom and be a little slower to speak and listen to the Spirit

Michae,

Mod hat on....

If you do not wish to have others come into an open forum and post why are you here? This is an forum for all to post and answer whats been posted, not an avenue for you to 'teach'. I do not see anyone punching around anyone but trying to have an open and honest discussion. Please refrain from admonishing anyone here simply because you do not want your theological bent to be upset.

shalom,

Mizzdy