Bible versions

[~candice~]

What evidence do you have of that? It's a pretty serious charge.

Here is my proof - " Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils " 1Tim4:1

I know by the Holy Spirit of GOD and this is my belief, Simple !

Brother, therein lies the problem!

It is one thing to have a personal conviction, which is all well and good, but you step into condemnation when you force others into obeying your personal conviction.

If you have proof that the KJV is the only English bible we should use, bring it to the table, but personal conviction is not good enough.

[~candice~]

You make it obvious in the post below that your conviction is not just for yourself.

Why do you think what was good enough for every man of GOD like Moody, Spurgeon , Edwards, Wesley etc is not good enough for you or anyone else ?

And here...

The Authorized Bible was here nearly 400 years before your NASB and it did not need revising

You have removed words, you have added words since the Authorized Version. WHY ?

And here...

I believe that "modern" Bible versions have been tampered with by satan who is highly underestimated in this wicked, aoostate and reprobate age.

I really don't know what to take from your posts other than that the KJV is the only english bible for everyone today.

[Guest]

Yeap~! Them Good Eats~!

John 3:16

Variant Word Count: 4

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. New Americim Standard

Variant Word Count: 4 (16%)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Kings James Version

http://www.studylight.org/par/

[ears]

I just have to say that KJV is my bible. I defend every word. When I was just beginning to trust the Lord I prayed over my Bible and asked him if there was anything in here that was not from him to please put that in my heart. I've read it through quite a few times and never heard him tell me something was wrong with what I was reading. It's words led me to the Father. Praise the Lord forever.

[Botz]

Thanks for listening to these links Botz and although Mr Miller presents some good points i agree that it was not a sound argument.

I have one more link for you to listen to that has corrected me regarding the Authorized Version (not KJV) and would ask you to give it your time. I said i would not hassle you any more Botz but if you give your ear to this sermon by Dr Frank Logsdon and not find it educational and edifying then will eat my words.

http://www.sermonaudio.com/playpopup.asp?SID=6260443325

Hi TLF,

I did try to listen to the audio but it didn't work properly, I tried to find the same link but failed....so I listened to a few other things around the same subject.

If you re-post it and check the link I will listen to it properly. I will always look at anything in order to determine what is true, especially if it is a subject

like this that seems to create such a stir in some quarters....it is important and needs addressing.

Something I have been considering during our conversations and exchanges is that this internal controversy that divides the house of G-d does far more

damage than some variant readings that have been sincerely produced by worthy people whose one desire is to bless the Body with their skills and to

utilise the wealth of information now available to us through the discovery of far more pieces of documentary evidence...all of which have gone to prove

how accurate the authorised version was and is...and how helpful many of the modern versions are proving to be. They do not try and pit the one against

the other but to see the hand of G-d working in such a way through the years that everything that has been discovered compliments and strengthens what

has gone on before...establishing the accuracy obtainable in King James' time using limited and later manuscripts...to the accuracy displayed in these days

having access to a fuller and broader range of manuscript evidence.

I think it is fair to say that the L-rd has preserved His Word in a far more miraculous way than just through the 1611 AV...He has not been limited to it by any

stretch of the imagination...it is man that has sought to make this a religious doctrine and claim they have the seal of G-d to their opinion/belief.

[OneLight]

Nicely said Botz.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

[Oneaccords]

Nicely said Botz.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

If you want to hear hardcore Pro KJV teachings i would suggest you listen to Pastor Bryan Delinger: www.sermonaudio.com/kjvbbf He was influenced by Peter Ruckman and has a big library of study materials plus he makes alot of sense.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

Satan would want to corrupt the word of God through men like Westcott and Hort who weren't Christians (easy to prove). The Bible Version is not about dividing the body of Christ it is about getting the right Bible so that you can have that sword of the Spirit - Ephesians 6

Dont settle for less dont grab a sword that is not really a sword and that has little impact against the forces of darkness. We are in a spiritual battle and the devil fled from Jesus when He quoted the word of God to him.

[OneLight]

Nicely said Botz.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

If you want to hear hardcore Pro KJV teachings i would suggest you listen to Pastor Bryan Delinger: www.sermonaudio.com/kjvbbf He was influenced by Peter Ruckman and has a big library of study materials plus he makes alot of sense.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

Satan would want to corrupt the word of God through men like Westcott and Hort who weren't Christians (easy to prove). The Bible Version is not about dividing the body of Christ it is about getting the right Bible so that you can have that sword of the Spirit - Ephesians 6

Dont settle for less dont grab a sword that is not really a sword and that has little impact against the forces of darkness. We are in a spiritual battle and the devil fled from Jesus when He quoted the word of God to him.

You miss one very important factor in all this. The Holy Spirit. We can do nothing without His Spirit to empower us, and His Spirit will always teach us the truth. Trust in God and He will build you up.

[Oneaccords]

Nicely said Botz.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

If you want to hear hardcore Pro KJV teachings i would suggest you listen to Pastor Bryan Delinger: www.sermonaudio.com/kjvbbf He was influenced by Peter Ruckman and has a big library of study materials plus he makes alot of sense.

God does work through His Spirit, teaching us His truth, and it does not matter to Him if you have the KJV or the NASB. This argument only divides His body, exactly what Satan wants.

Satan would want to corrupt the word of God through men like Westcott and Hort who weren't Christians (easy to prove). The Bible Version is not about dividing the body of Christ it is about getting the right Bible so that you can have that sword of the Spirit - Ephesians 6

Dont settle for less dont grab a sword that is not really a sword and that has little impact against the forces of darkness. We are in a spiritual battle and the devil fled from Jesus when He quoted the word of God to him.

You miss one very important factor in all this. The Holy Spirit. We can do nothing without His Spirit to empower us, and His Spirit will always teach us the truth. Trust in God and He will build you up.

Ephesians 1:

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,

14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

I'm sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, do you think that i need anymore power? Just asking.

[coheir]

New King James Omissions

Omits the word “Lord” 66 times. Omits the word “God” 51 times. Omits the word “heaven” 50 times. Omits the word “repent” 44 times. Omits omits the word “blood” 23 times. Omits the word “hell” 22 times. Omits the word “JEHOVAH” entirely. Omits the word “new testament” entirely. Omits the word “damnation” entirely. Omits the word “devils” entirely.

NIV Omissions

Entire verses omitted include: Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11, Matthew 23:14, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28, Luke 23:17, John 5:4, Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:7, Acts 28:29, Romans 16:24.

ESV Omissions

ESV completely omits the following verses from the New Testament: Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14; Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46, 11:26, 15:28; Luke 17:36, 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37, 15:34, 28:29; Romans 16:24, plus partial omissions in Mat. 5:22, Mat. 19:9, Mark 9:49, Luke 4:4, Luke 22:64, John 3:13, John 8:59, Acts 18:21, Rom. 8:1, Rom. 13:9, 1 Cor. 10:28, 2 Cor. 4:10, Gal. 3:1, Eph. 3:14, Col. 1:14, 1 Tim. 1:1, Tit. 1:4, Heb. 1:3, Heb 2:7, 1 Pet. 4:1, Rev. 14:5, Luke 9:55-56, Acts 9:5-6 and 1 John 5:7-8.

If a person wants to read a bible based on the catholic doctrine I say go be a catholic