From the Waco Tribune Herald....

[jasoncran]

how does get the govt to make a distinction on the abusers? how many times you have a job and loose it etc?

im curious. sadly the abusers make it hard and thats a fact.

some here have come across as being sincere in trying to say that they dont want to hurt the those that are in need , while i can see that as i have reread the posts here. however, i still maintain that all whether an abuser or really in need be under the same laws.

i cant as a soldier mass punish my man for something on does but if enough of an issue comes i can take away privelidges. ask any soldier in the army about the no drinking orders given in training posts and why that is and you will see that those that are responsible with beer and havent been drunk and driving or other issues are punished for something they didnt do.

Edited March 3, 2012 by jasoncran

[Guest shiloh357]

so when i loose my job and cant find work.

i look but nothing how will you propose the govt doesnt (as they do already) with ssi.

with ssi in general you are denied any medical treatment and also funds till they approve you and that is either done in court, after three tries you may sue them in court. so while you think that you will only get the abusers you will also make it hard on them that do need it.

so like or not that will happen. the rotten apples make it bad for it all.

with unemployment you propose that they be made to work on the streets and take govt jobs as in road maintanance? trust me if i loose on my incomes i will be looking and not wasting time. the govt wont make a distinction at all. it doesnt for ssi and it wont here. that is fact that must state.

so how many do you know are on tanf that do this or is it those that appear that way. sure their some that abuse but that list there in my state is a fact. my step daughter pays me rent and buys the food and she can only use the tanf card on those things. so that list nor statement has been included by law.

how does get the govt to make a distinction on the abusers? how many times you have a job and loose it etc?

im curious. sadly the abusers make it hard and thats a fact.

some here have come across as being sincere in trying to say that they dont want to hurt the those that are in need , while i can see that as i have reread the posts here. however, i still maintain that all whether an abuser or really in need be under the same laws.

i cant as a soldier mass punish my man for something on does but if enough of an issue comes i can take away privelidges. ask any soldier in the army about the no drinking orders given in training posts and why that is and you will see that those that are responsible with beer and havent been drunk and driving or other issues are punished for something they didnt do.

Yeah, there these neat little things called "audits" where govt officials/social workers can come to your home and assess your lifestyle in order to determine your level of need. They can assess your level of income and your quality of living to determine if you are a deserving candidate for aid. So if the gov't wanted to audit and determine genuine need they could. It's not that hard.

[jasoncran]

so when i loose my job and cant find work.

i look but nothing how will you propose the govt doesnt (as they do already) with ssi.

with ssi in general you are denied any medical treatment and also funds till they approve you and that is either done in court, after three tries you may sue them in court. so while you think that you will only get the abusers you will also make it hard on them that do need it.

so like or not that will happen. the rotten apples make it bad for it all.

with unemployment you propose that they be made to work on the streets and take govt jobs as in road maintanance? trust me if i loose on my incomes i will be looking and not wasting time. the govt wont make a distinction at all. it doesnt for ssi and it wont here. that is fact that must state.

so how many do you know are on tanf that do this or is it those that appear that way. sure their some that abuse but that list there in my state is a fact. my step daughter pays me rent and buys the food and she can only use the tanf card on those things. so that list nor statement has been included by law.

how does get the govt to make a distinction on the abusers? how many times you have a job and loose it etc?

im curious. sadly the abusers make it hard and thats a fact.

some here have come across as being sincere in trying to say that they dont want to hurt the those that are in need , while i can see that as i have reread the posts here. however, i still maintain that all whether an abuser or really in need be under the same laws.

i cant as a soldier mass punish my man for something on does but if enough of an issue comes i can take away privelidges. ask any soldier in the army about the no drinking orders given in training posts and why that is and you will see that those that are responsible with beer and havent been drunk and driving or other issues are punished for something they didnt do.

Yeah, there these neat little things called "audits" where govt officials/social workers can come to your home and assess your lifestyle in order to determine your level of need. They can assess your level of income and your quality of living to determine if you are a deserving candidate for aid. So if the gov't wanted to audit and determine genuine need they could. It's not that hard.

and they do that anyway, i have been subject to that and denied care and i was in need. my wife needed meds and so forth and sadly if just quit one job it would gotten the whole shabang but they did pay for my meds but it wasnt much.

however with ssi in the meantime if you are in need sadly you may die before they ever give you the help

for years my dad has had seisure so much so that he had five boxes of medical history that he took to court. he had to demonstrate what he could do and if he said i sing in church or teach the bible he would have to work. five boxes of history and the govt knew that as his doctor was his(his first one that i remember the most retired) for over 20 years. that should be enough to convice the govt that he couldnt have faked his condition as he also had his license pulled three times and also had wrecks from his overmedications and or seizure while driving

my statement here is that we also realise that right doesnt want to solve the problem in parts as they only make it harder for the abusers to abuse but a good one will get it anyway. what im saying is that the govt cant change the culture for the better as each time it tries to it doesnt seem to work. we need to teach the men and women that work is good thing and too teach that one ought to have some pride. no politican can do that