Obamacare is Just a Cover for Initiating "Mark of Beast"

[~candice~]

The thing about prophecy is that often times its not recognized as such until after it appears. Obama care to mark of the beast? I dont think so, If Im reading the Bible correctly, we will have a one world government first, and then the mark of the beast will show up, so the things arnt falling into play. And as far as the "micro chip" is conncerned, someones been reading waaay to much left behind. Granted, those were good books, but Im not convinced they got everything biblically sound, they put in a LOT of writers imagination.

They got lots wrong, LOL. The timing of the rapture, the literal MOTB, etc.

[The_Patriot21]

lol and theres the other thing about end times prophecy, there are soooo many different ways to interpret it. I can literally, sit down and debate both a pre-millenial and a all-millenial viewpoint convincingly. With that being said, Im neither, Im a pan-millenialist, I believe it will all pan out in the end. I dont tend to enter end times debates often either, while I enjoy a good discussion, these often turn into a heated argument and then creates division, so I tend to avoid them-why create division over something that the only 100% way to prove anyone right is to wait for it to actually happen. . .

[xero]

Exodus 13:9"And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt."

A sign upon the hand and between the eyes where have we seen this before? Revelations 7 perhaps.

So if obedience to the commandments is the seal of God is it much of a stretch that the mark of the beast (the lawless one) is commandment breaking?

As far as buying and selling goes all that takes is packaging everything with the beasts image for a logo and only those who break the second commandment would be able to purchase or sell products. Yeah its speculative but who doesnt know about the mark of the beast, wont it be a little obvious if its a physical thing, wouldnt even nonbelievers think it peculiar that they need a mark or rfid to buy and sell? Not as if it isnt possible to be a physical mark but subtlety is the trademark of the serpent.

[~candice~]

Exodus 13:9"And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt."

A sign upon the hand and between the eyes where have we seen this before? Revelations 7 perhaps.

So if obedience to the commandments is the seal of God is it much of a stretch that the mark of the beast (the lawless one) is commandment breaking?

As far as buying and selling goes all that takes is packaging everything with the beasts image for a logo and only those who break the second commandment would be able to purchase or sell products. Yeah its speculative but who doesnt know about the mark of the beast, wont it be a little obvious if its a physical thing, wouldnt even nonbelievers think it peculiar that they need a mark or rfid to buy and sell? Not as if it isnt possible to be a physical mark but subtlety is the trademark of the serpent.

[Arthur Durnan]

ObamaCare is the next huge stomping of the jack-boot on American liberty & ingenuity. It's a socialist's clarion call to remake the USA into Europe II. Hello Greece! Hello Portugal! Hello Ireland!

[taylor30]

The thing about prophecy is that often times its not recognized as such until after it appears. Obama care to mark of the beast? I dont think so, If Im reading the Bible correctly, we will have a one world government first, and then the mark of the beast will show up, so the things arnt falling into play. And as far as the "micro chip" is conncerned, someones been reading waaay to much left behind. Granted, those were good books, but Im not convinced they got everything biblically sound, they put in a LOT of writers imagination.

They got lots wrong, LOL. The timing of the rapture, the literal MOTB, etc.

Come on. I LOVE that series. So a few mistakes were made. NO ONE can be perfect in understanding. It has far more truth than error in it. With its record sales and Millions coming to Christ because of it, I think its safe to say God has his blessing on it. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. A few mistakes doesn't mean the whole thing is wrong. Tim Lahaye has been a prophesy pastor for over half a century. Lets not be TOO harsh with this series that Godly men took great care to write as biblical as they knew how to.

[~candice~]

The thing about prophecy is that often times its not recognized as such until after it appears. Obama care to mark of the beast? I dont think so, If Im reading the Bible correctly, we will have a one world government first, and then the mark of the beast will show up, so the things arnt falling into play. And as far as the "micro chip" is conncerned, someones been reading waaay to much left behind. Granted, those were good books, but Im not convinced they got everything biblically sound, they put in a LOT of writers imagination.

They got lots wrong, LOL. The timing of the rapture, the literal MOTB, etc.

Come on. I LOVE that series. So a few mistakes were made. NO ONE can be perfect in understanding. It has far more truth than error in it. With its record sales and Millions coming to Christ because of it, I think its safe to say God has his blessing on it. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. A few mistakes doesn't mean the whole thing is wrong. Tim Lahaye has been a prophesy pastor for over half a century. Lets not be TOO harsh with this series that Godly men took great care to write as biblical as they knew how to.

I am not in the pre trib camp and I have honest reservations about spreading a message that we are going to get whipped out of here before the real trouble starts. To me, that is a message of false hope. He may be a 'prophesy pastor' (what is that?) but it doesn't make him infallible. If you enjoyed the books, that is great, but read it as fiction, because that is what it is. If you want a biblical account, read the bible!

Unfortunately, selling many copies doesn't make it "godly". Can you point out where millions came to Christ because of his books???

[taylor30]

The thing about prophecy is that often times its not recognized as such until after it appears. Obama care to mark of the beast? I dont think so, If Im reading the Bible correctly, we will have a one world government first, and then the mark of the beast will show up, so the things arnt falling into play. And as far as the "micro chip" is conncerned, someones been reading waaay to much left behind. Granted, those were good books, but Im not convinced they got everything biblically sound, they put in a LOT of writers imagination.

They got lots wrong, LOL. The timing of the rapture, the literal MOTB, etc.

Come on. I LOVE that series. So a few mistakes were made. NO ONE can be perfect in understanding. It has far more truth than error in it. With its record sales and Millions coming to Christ because of it, I think its safe to say God has his blessing on it. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. A few mistakes doesn't mean the whole thing is wrong. Tim Lahaye has been a prophesy pastor for over half a century. Lets not be TOO harsh with this series that Godly men took great care to write as biblical as they knew how to.

I am not in the pre trib camp and I have honest reservations about spreading a message that we are going to get whipped out of here before the real trouble starts. To me, that is a message of false hope. He may be a 'prophesy pastor' (what is that?) but it doesn't make him infallible. If you enjoyed the books, that is great, but read it as fiction, because that is what it is. If you want a biblical account, read the bible!

Unfortunately, selling many copies doesn't make it "godly". Can you point out where millions came to Christ because of his books???

I personally AM a pre-trib person. I do see that as scriptural. Until proven otherwise, I cannot see that as error. By prophesy preacher I mean that is his area of greatest knowledge. His biblical specialty in a sense. Maybe selling millions of copies doesn't necessarily mean it has God behind it, but I think it does give weight to it. Even secular series NEVER sell like that. Don't so easily dismiss it. Lets not put limits on what God can do. That series may on fact prove to be MORE truthful than you realize.

[~candice~]

The thing about prophecy is that often times its not recognized as such until after it appears. Obama care to mark of the beast? I dont think so, If Im reading the Bible correctly, we will have a one world government first, and then the mark of the beast will show up, so the things arnt falling into play. And as far as the "micro chip" is conncerned, someones been reading waaay to much left behind. Granted, those were good books, but Im not convinced they got everything biblically sound, they put in a LOT of writers imagination.

They got lots wrong, LOL. The timing of the rapture, the literal MOTB, etc.

Come on. I LOVE that series. So a few mistakes were made. NO ONE can be perfect in understanding. It has far more truth than error in it. With its record sales and Millions coming to Christ because of it, I think its safe to say God has his blessing on it. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. A few mistakes doesn't mean the whole thing is wrong. Tim Lahaye has been a prophesy pastor for over half a century. Lets not be TOO harsh with this series that Godly men took great care to write as biblical as they knew how to.

I am not in the pre trib camp and I have honest reservations about spreading a message that we are going to get whipped out of here before the real trouble starts. To me, that is a message of false hope. He may be a 'prophesy pastor' (what is that?) but it doesn't make him infallible. If you enjoyed the books, that is great, but read it as fiction, because that is what it is. If you want a biblical account, read the bible!

Unfortunately, selling many copies doesn't make it "godly". Can you point out where millions came to Christ because of his books???

I personally AM a pre-trib person. I do see that as scriptural. Until proven otherwise, I cannot see that as error. By prophesy preacher I mean that is his area of greatest knowledge. His biblical specialty in a sense. Maybe selling millions of copies doesn't necessarily mean it has God behind it, but I think it does give weight to it. Even secular series NEVER sell like that. Don't so easily dismiss it. Lets not put limits on what God can do. That series may on fact prove to be MORE truthful than you realize.

With all due respect, even a broken clock is right twice a day. If God wanted to give us more information about the end times, He would have given it to us in Scripture before He closed the canon. This is, sadly, fiction. I am not putting limits on God, I am working within His stated guidelines.

[AnotherSinner]

GOD'S word should be what our faith is placed in, not any work of fiction. No matter how good intended it may be. That is all the Left Behind Series was, FICTION.