One for the people! ObamaCare down the drain 244-185

[Guest]

I'm sure it could. But let's not play. The House knows full well that their vote is purely political theater and will be of no effect. The only ways to stop it is to have the Republican Party take over Congress and put Obama out or de-fund it. Keeping it could have some unintended consequences, too. Like doctors walking away from medicine.

I don't think that will happen Parker....

They are already talking about. Another unintended consequence is having to wait for months to get an appointment. I suppose you think that won't happen either?

It's one thing to talk about it, and altogether another to actually do it. I just don't buy it......

LOL. Just look at England. You think it will be any different here? Really?

[other one]

I'm sure it could. But let's not play. The House knows full well that their vote is purely political theater and will be of no effect. The only ways to stop it is to have the Republican Party take over Congress and put Obama out or de-fund it. Keeping it could have some unintended consequences, too. Like doctors walking away from medicine.

I don't think that will happen Parker....

They are already talking about. Another unintended consequence is having to wait for months to get an appointment. I suppose you think that won't happen either?

It's one thing to talk about it, and altogether another to actually do it. I just don't buy it......

LOL. Just look at England. You think it will be any different here? Really?

This bill is not giving us the system that England or Canada has.... I find it hard to believe that you all don't seem to understand that.

[Guest yod]

This is some expensive theater.

Not even approaching the cost of ObamaTax!

It is also the reason that congressional approval ratings are so low.

No, that is because the Democrats didn't allow negotiations, and Republicans were mostly impotent and disorganized.....OR went along with it.

Face it, some day the ObamaTax is finally going to be negotiated in the open so everyone can have input, AND we can make sure that health-care is all that is in the bill. Most of us don't want to give government doctors the power of life or death, and we don't want the IRS involved at all!!!

[other one]

Yod, is there somewhere that lists all the taxes in the healthcare bill?

[Guest]

I'm sure it could. But let's not play. The House knows full well that their vote is purely political theater and will be of no effect. The only ways to stop it is to have the Republican Party take over Congress and put Obama out or de-fund it. Keeping it could have some unintended consequences, too. Like doctors walking away from medicine.

I don't think that will happen Parker....

They are already talking about. Another unintended consequence is having to wait for months to get an appointment. I suppose you think that won't happen either?

It's one thing to talk about it, and altogether another to actually do it. I just don't buy it......

LOL. Just look at England. You think it will be any different here? Really?

This bill is not giving us the system that England or Canada has.... I find it hard to believe that you all don't seem to understand that.

Call it what you want, but it is still socialized medicine. I find it hard to believe that you don't seem to understand that.

[other one]

I'm sure it could. But let's not play. The House knows full well that their vote is purely political theater and will be of no effect. The only ways to stop it is to have the Republican Party take over Congress and put Obama out or de-fund it. Keeping it could have some unintended consequences, too. Like doctors walking away from medicine.

I don't think that will happen Parker....

They are already talking about. Another unintended consequence is having to wait for months to get an appointment. I suppose you think that won't happen either?

It's one thing to talk about it, and altogether another to actually do it. I just don't buy it......

LOL. Just look at England. You think it will be any different here? Really?

This bill is not giving us the system that England or Canada has.... I find it hard to believe that you all don't seem to understand that.

Call it what you want, but it is still socialized medicine. I find it hard to believe that you don't seem to understand that.

Maybe it's because I've read most of the bill instead of listening to Fox News. You know, where things like the Mark of the Beast Threads come from.

[Guest]

I agree. That was my point. This type of thing is why the congressional approval rating is in the teens.

The congressional approval rating being in it's teens has a great deal to do with the healthcare bill. Because the point that everyone carping about congress wasting money trying to repeal it continually overlook is very simple:

The American public does not support Federalized Healthcare.

The American public, a good 75% of them, want Obamacare repealed. They don't want it to ever take effect. They don't want the "bill" at all and never did. It isn't even a bill and was never passed as a bill, legally, it is simply a big bloated tax. And America doesn't want it, didn't want it, won't want it in the future.

The biggest reason that congressional approval is in the teens is because people realize that the candidates they voted into office no longer represent the constituents, the people who voted for them, they represent themselves and their own interests. But in this one case, congress is actually trying to do what they are mandated to do, and people are whining about it. If it is a waste of money to do so, then you are going to have to explain to me why it is a waste of money to attempt to do what your constituents who voted you into office want you to do and why things like unfunded entitlements, junkets to foreign contries to constantly apologize for America being America, funding guns for Mexican drug cartels, endless stimulus packages and bankrupt company bailouts are not wastes of money.

Well, under the present conditions of our government, it is a waste of money to symbolically "repeal" Obamacare when they know that Senator Reid will never let it come to the floor. They should just de-fund it. But they want to use it as a political tool on both sides of the isle. The Republicans want it on the record that the Democrats are for a bill no one wants and raised taxes on the middle class; the Democrats in the Senate won't vote on it because Reid needs to protect the vulnerable Democrats from having to vote on it at all during this election cycle. Anyway, like I said, just de-fund it and the game is over. The Senate not the President won't be able to do anything about it.

[Guest]

I'm sure it could. But let's not play. The House knows full well that their vote is purely political theater and will be of no effect. The only ways to stop it is to have the Republican Party take over Congress and put Obama out or de-fund it. Keeping it could have some unintended consequences, too. Like doctors walking away from medicine.

I don't think that will happen Parker....

They are already talking about. Another unintended consequence is having to wait for months to get an appointment. I suppose you think that won't happen either?

It's one thing to talk about it, and altogether another to actually do it. I just don't buy it......

LOL. Just look at England. You think it will be any different here? Really?

This bill is not giving us the system that England or Canada has.... I find it hard to believe that you all don't seem to understand that.

Call it what you want, but it is still socialized medicine. I find it hard to believe that you don't seem to understand that.

Maybe it's because I've read most of the bill instead of listening to Fox News. You know, where things like the Mark of the Beast Threads come from.

Well, I won't insult you like you have tried to do with this post. How mature. You and I are done here, other one

[other one]

If you defund it without doing something about the laws that have gone into affect of making Insurance companies accept pre conditions among other things, you'll destroy the insurance industry and our whole healthcare system will collapse.

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