tongues

[nebula]

Hi nebula,

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit so I really don’t see how your point applies.

Do you think that all who received the Holy Spirit speak in tongues?

But you said you believe your gift of tongues is or could be a deception. Why?

[asper]

Hi nebula,

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit so I really don’t see how your point applies.

Do you think that all who received the Holy Spirit speak in tongues?

But you said you believe your gift of tongues is or could be a deception. Why?

i don't know what to say about your inability to comprehend or undertand...

. context is everything. i was showing different ways that God Judges people and none were meant to be specific about this instance.

but what is strange that you didn't apply the other ones?

that seems odd to me...

[asper]

Asper:

Well I don’t think that these are the apostles that are saying these things but evidently there would be at least some others that exhibit these things who are not for real.

It was for real............... Holy Spirit filled believers speaking to Jesus. Jesus never denied they did not cast out devils, or do that other stuff, He said they are workers of iniquity. They are not doers of the Word. Remember the Holy Spirit is a free Gift and doing Miracles does not denote ones standing with God.

I think that was the Lords Point, that we must live our life and abide in Him. Using the free Gift of Tongues, or Casting out some devils, does not mean the person is right with the Lord.

I know someone that raised someone from the dead high on Heroin. His buddy overdosed, they zipped his buddy in a bag, and the guy opened the bag, and said in the name of Jesus, come to life.... and bam, to everyone amazement, the ambulance guys he came back to life. Now I know for a fact, my buddy was not living for God, I know He had faith, and believed the Name of Jesus could overcome death. The one thing that concerned me though is I warned him that faith only goes so far when in disobedience.

Blessings.

Jesus Is Lord.

getting closer

[asper]

asper

getting closer

Help me out here....... closer to?????????

Hi Mike,

Just because someone is called that doesn’t mean they chosen.

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

As previously posted,

Are all those speaking in tongues considered legit?

Hebrews 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work.

Even it some gifts are still available today that doesn’t mean that they that do them are righteous.

1 Samuel 19:18 So David fled, and escaped, and came to Samuel to Ramah, and told him all that Saul had done to him. And he and Samuel went and dwelt in Naioth.

19 And it was told Saul, saying, Behold, David is at Naioth in Ramah.

20 And Saul sent messengers to take David: and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying, and Samuel standing as appointed over them, the Spirit of God was upon the messengers of Saul, and they also prophesied.

21 And when it was told Saul, he sent other messengers, and they prophesied likewise. And Saul sent messengers again the third time, and they prophesied also.

22 Then went he also to Ramah, and came to a great well that is in Sechu: and he asked and said, Where are Samuel and David? And one said, Behold, they be at Naioth in Ramah.

23 And he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah.

24 And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?

Edited July 22, 2012 by asper

[gdemoss]

Even it some gifts are still available today that doesn’t mean that they that do them are righteous.

Amen

Except I say that all the gifts are in operation today.

1Cr 1:6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Since the time this topic has surfaced here at Worthy, the Lord guided me to this verse to explain to me that the gifts, all of them, are functioning and will until he returns. Unfortunately though, many who have experienced the gifts, which are without repentance, have got caught up in being led of spirits that are not of God.

In Jesus Name,

Gary

[asper]

Even it some gifts are still available today that doesn’t mean that they that do them are righteous.

Amen

Except I say that all the gifts are in operation today.

1Cr 1:6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Since the time this topic has surfaced here at Worthy, the Lord guided me to this verse to explain to me that the gifts, all of them, are functioning and will until he returns. Unfortunately though, many who have experienced the gifts, which are without repentance, have got caught up in being led of spirits that are not of God.

In Jesus Name,

Gary

hi gdmoss,

thank you for your response.

i have no problem with someone who believes the gifts are for today.

i have problems with the free pass that is given to some disorderly leaders and the tendency to silence any critics without a honest discussion. it's ok to silence the critics but the key is having a honest discussion. what do we have to be afraid of anyway.

God bless you...

Edited July 22, 2012 by asper

[gdemoss]

Even it some gifts are still available today that doesn’t mean that they that do them are righteous.

Amen

Except I say that all the gifts are in operation today.

1Cr 1:6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Since the time this topic has surfaced here at Worthy, the Lord guided me to this verse to explain to me that the gifts, all of them, are functioning and will until he returns. Unfortunately though, many who have experienced the gifts, which are without repentance, have got caught up in being led of spirits that are not of God.

In Jesus Name,

Gary

hi gdmoss,

thank you for your response.

i have no problem with someone who believes the gifts are for today.

i have problems with the free pass that is given to some disorderly leaders and the tendency to silence any critics without a honest discussion. it's ok to silence the critics but the key is having a honest discussion. what do we have to be afraid of anyway.

God bless you...

An honest discussion can only be had by honest people. Honest people are they who are doers of the word and not hearers only as the others deceive themselves first and others second. Each of us must be honest with ourselves and declare our obedience to that which has been revealed unto us as truth in scripture or understand that we are not honest. Of course a dishonest person cannot do such a thing. What a conundrum. May the God of all glory have mercy upon any of us who are being dishonest with ourselves and reveal even this unto us.

In Jesus Name,

Gary

[nebula]

Hi nebula,

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit so I really don’t see how your point applies.

Do you think that all who received the Holy Spirit speak in tongues?

But you said you believe your gift of tongues is or could be a deception. Why?

i don't know what to say about your inability to comprehend or undertand...

. context is everything. i was showing different ways that God Judges people and none were meant to be specific about this instance.

but what is strange that you didn't apply the other ones?

that seems odd to me...

I've been reading what you write and how you respond, and the whole time I see you speaking pot-shots. What I want is to understand what you believe and why you believe it. I find it pointless to debate potshots. I want to discuss this with you understanding exactly what your position is and why?

I can't answer your other questions until then.

[asper]

Hi nebula,

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit so I really don’t see how your point applies.

Do you think that all who received the Holy Spirit speak in tongues?

But you said you believe your gift of tongues is or could be a deception. Why?

i don't know what to say about your inability to comprehend or undertand...

. context is everything. i was showing different ways that God Judges people and none were meant to be specific about this instance.

but what is strange that you didn't apply the other ones?

that seems odd to me...

I've been reading what you write and how you respond, and the whole time I see you speaking pot-shots. What I want is to understand what you believe and why you believe it. I find it pointless to debate potshots. I want to discuss this with you understanding exactly what your position is and why?

I can't answer your other questions until then.

Hi nebula,

I keep answering your questions and you keep saying you don’t understand. I am a little skeptical of that as I have indicated by what you call pot shots but what I call my show of skepticism.

But why do you need to know everything I believe? It would take years to explain everything I have seen in the Bible.

So………..

[nebula]

Not really - you didn't explain how you went from speaking in tongues to believing it to be, or possibly be, delusion.